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AGP Not Yet Dead Says Gigabyte

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It's always good and fun to have the latest hardware, especially when it comes to graphics. But what if you're on an aging AGP system?

All the latest graphics card solutions are on the PCI-Express interconnect. Superior bandwidth equates to superior performance and features. But not everyone can upgrade their computer all the time. Given that, the AGP port is growing long in the tooth, but there's no denying that many AGP systems still exist.

To cater to these users, who may have built their dream system or invested a lot of money when AGP was the best available graphics connect, Gigabyte unveiled an AGP version of its Radeon HD 4650 solution, called the GV-R465D2-1GI.

With this particular card, AGP users can get a big boost out of their graphics subsystem, thanks not only to the recent generation GPU, but also to the board boasting 1 GB of memory and support for DX10.1. The board is compatible with AGP 8X and Gigabyte claims CorssFireX support, but we're not quite convinced this is a feature that will work, considering there aren't any dual-AGP systems. However, the most obvious indicator that this may be an error by Gigabyte is the lack of a CrossFire bridge connector on the card.

Despite the odd CrossFireX spec, the Gigabyte GV-R465D2-1GI does deliver a good upgrade for those still on AGP systems.

[Edited: Originally reported that there aren't any hybrid AGP/PCI-Express motherboards. There are some, but few.]

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    seboj , June 4, 2009 5:29 PM
    chripuckI call BS.You've made 3 or 4 systems since the advent of PCIe? If that's true you have more money than common sense. The first native PCIe card was the GeForce 7 series which didn't come out until late 2005/early 2006. So you've been averaging an entirely new system every year?


    I fail to see why you're jumping a guy for having a new build every year. If he has the money, and likes computers, let him do what he wants.

    It just makes you sound like a jealous douchebag, to be honest.
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    tenor77 , June 4, 2009 5:24 PM
    captaincharismai guess this kid has rich parents that spoil him to death LOL


    No, I'm the dad that spoils his kids. I have a job
  • 11 Hide
    jerther , June 4, 2009 5:28 PM
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
    I bet this thing will cost WAY too much for what an AGP system's worth
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    tenor77 , June 4, 2009 5:06 PM
    How many builds has it been since I stopped using AGP? 3 or 4 I think?

    No, it's dead. Even if you used this card, what are the odds you wouldn't hit a massive bottleneck on the processor and memory?
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    chripuck , June 4, 2009 5:11 PM
    tenor77How many builds has it been since I stopped using AGP? 3 or 4 I think?No, it's dead. Even if you used this card, what are the odds you wouldn't hit a massive bottleneck on the processor and memory?


    I call BS.

    You've made 3 or 4 systems since the advent of PCIe? If that's true you have more money than common sense. The first native PCIe card was the GeForce 7 series which didn't come out until late 2005/early 2006. So you've been averaging an entirely new system every year?
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    captaincharisma , June 4, 2009 5:23 PM
    Quote:
    How many builds has it been since I stopped using AGP? 3 or 4 I think?No, it's dead. Even if you used this card, what are the odds you wouldn't hit a massive bottleneck on the processor and memory?


    i guess this kid has rich parents that spoil him to death LOL
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    tenor77 , June 4, 2009 5:23 PM
    Quote:
    I call BS.


    Umm okay I'm not sure why you'd think I'd lie about that. I like building computers.
  • 13 Hide
    tenor77 , June 4, 2009 5:24 PM
    captaincharismai guess this kid has rich parents that spoil him to death LOL


    No, I'm the dad that spoils his kids. I have a job
  • 11 Hide
    jerther , June 4, 2009 5:28 PM
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
    I bet this thing will cost WAY too much for what an AGP system's worth
  • 23 Hide
    seboj , June 4, 2009 5:29 PM
    chripuckI call BS.You've made 3 or 4 systems since the advent of PCIe? If that's true you have more money than common sense. The first native PCIe card was the GeForce 7 series which didn't come out until late 2005/early 2006. So you've been averaging an entirely new system every year?


    I fail to see why you're jumping a guy for having a new build every year. If he has the money, and likes computers, let him do what he wants.

    It just makes you sound like a jealous douchebag, to be honest.
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    wonderingwhatis , June 4, 2009 5:29 PM
    Wow what a stupid argument. Who cares how many systems he has build since AGP has gone the way of the dodo. Many people replace their systems annually and some more often.
    I've built 2 since my old 6800OC.


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    stuart72 , June 4, 2009 5:38 PM
    More to the point, aren't there faster AGP cards out there right now? Wouldn't the 3850 AGP be a bit faster? (and yes, a lot warmer)
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    etrnl_frost , June 4, 2009 5:40 PM
    tenor77No, I'm the dad that spoils his kids. I have a job

    It's also possible, that, like me, you're an idiot who just likes to build computers. I've built 6 since AGP that are all PCIe16 based, but I definitely didn't keep all of them. I build for friends and family! Screw you if you think you're getting software support though. Lol?
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    captaincharisma , June 4, 2009 5:40 PM
    i don't see how... i figured the AGP bus would be a bottleneck for the card anyway. why put more than 1GB of memory on a GPU when you know the AGP bus wouldn't be able to handle it.
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    Anonymous , June 4, 2009 5:44 PM
    [quote=chripuck]I call BS.

    You've made 3 or 4 systems since the advent of PCIe? If that's true you have more money than common sense. The first native PCIe card was the GeForce 7 series which didn't come out until late 2005/early 2006. So you've been averaging an entirely new system every year?[/quote]

    I wouldn't say it's BS. Granted, I spend a lot of my income on computer parts (and a lot of superfluous ones at that), I've been through 6 motherboards in that amount of time, all the while working in a retail store. Newegg and used parts help feed my addiction...

    I also don't think that this part is completely useless, if one had a 939 board with an Athlon 64 X2 and AGP (not unfeasible, nForce 3 250gb was a really decent board). My brother is still doing fine with his 4200+ and a 3870 (PCIe, I know, but it's similar performance wise). 8x AGP would be similar performance wise to PCIe 1.x 8x, which many Crossfire and SLI compatible boards use.
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    sublifer , June 4, 2009 5:47 PM
    The previous "fasted AGP card" was the 3850, I wouldn't think this 4650 would be any faster than that... yes, new generation but 46xx are entry level gaming cards where the 38xx was mid to upper level gaming.
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    sanloublues , June 4, 2009 5:49 PM
    Here's at least one mobo w/ PCI-E and AGP: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock-939dual,1120.html

    I recall there were dual AGP mobotherboards too, but can't find the links right now because google thinks I want to find dual cpu mobos.
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    hallic7 , June 4, 2009 5:52 PM
    AGP = Ancient Graphics Port!

    Let's just get over it...

    LOL
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    buzznut , June 4, 2009 5:54 PM
    I've built at least four systems since AGP went bye bye. Like others have mentioned I built mostly for friends and family.
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    IzzyCraft , June 4, 2009 5:56 PM
    Next thing you're gonna know is they are gonna put 4 pin molexs back on cards instead of pcie 6 or 6+2
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    DXRick , June 4, 2009 6:01 PM
    I am still using my P4 3.0 system (865P chipset) with ATI X800XT AGP card. There is no way I am going to stick a newer video card into this thing! It may make older games, like Oblivion a tad faster, but would not enable enable me to play any of the latest games.
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    waikano , June 4, 2009 6:05 PM
    My only problem with any AMD/ATI AGP from about the 1ks and on are the fact that the Drivers haven't been that great. I have Radeon 2600xt I bought for my sons older system and had all kinds of Drivers issues, had to settle on the Omega Drivers to find any kind of stability on the AGP bus. This of course isn't an issue for the PCI-e side of things. So even if they made this thing and it helped an aging system my question would be how are the drivers. Correct me if I am wrong but AMD/ATI doesn't support the AGP bus anymore and only the 3rd Party vendors do.
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