New Nvidia Drivers Boost Up Fermi Performance
The new drivers that came out with GTX 460 support make the entire Fermi family faster.
Along with the GeForce GTX 460 release yesterday, Nvidia also brought out some new drivers to support it. But even for those without the new 460 GPU, any gamer with a Fermi-based GPU will be able to realize some performance gains in the 258.96 WHQL-candidate drivers.
· Adds additional performance increases for GeForce GTX 400 Series GPUs in several PC games (these improvements are in addition to the previously reported Release 256 improvements). The following are examples of some of the most significant improvements measured with GeForce GTX 480. Results will vary depending on your GPU and system configuration:
- Up to 11% in Aliens vs. Predator (1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF – Tessellation on)
- Up to 7% in Crysis: Warhead (SLI – 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF – Gamer)
- Up to 4% in H.A.W.X (SLI – 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF – Very High)
- Up to 10% in Just Cause 2 (SLI – 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF - Concrete Jungle)
- Up to 6% in Metro 2033 (1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF – Tessellation on)
- Up to 7% in Metro 2033 (SLI – 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF – Tessellation on)
- Up to 10% in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat (1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF)
- Up to 12% in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat (SLI – 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF)
- Up to 4% in World in Conflict (SLI – 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF)
Grab those drivers right here (be sure to select the GTX 460 in the pull down to get the new release mentioned in this post).
UPDATE July 19: These are now WHQL now.
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Pretty impressive that after 2 driver releases, they improved performance on the new architecture by almost 20% across the board!
Most of it is just SLI though. Too bad I don't even have one of these cards.
I don't do games. I'm using my GTX-470 for video editing with Adobe Premiere Pro CS5. Should I get this update?
Seems to be a great deal of benefits found with these drivers, I wonder if they're worth the upgrade from 197.13 for a GTX 200 series card...
Seems to be a great deal of benefits found with these drivers, I wonder if they're worth the upgrade from 197.13 for a GTX 200 series card...
It couldn't hurt to try, I'm using them on my little 9500GT and my desktop is performing great!
Why would you ever need a 470 for adobe premiere? I remember fiddling with the premiere 6 with my old athlon xp 1600mhz and geforce 3 ti200... Was slow as hell but usable..
Seriously, did adobe include some heavy graphic editing in their pro cs5 or is it just a good-ole overkill?
I don't do games. I'm using my GTX-470 for video editing with Adobe Premiere Pro CS5. Should I get this update?
It wouldn't hurt to give it a shot.
Seems to be a great deal of benefits found with these drivers, I wonder if they're worth the upgrade from 197.13 for a GTX 200 series card...
See above comment ^
It couldn't hurt to try, I'm using them on my little 9500GT and my desktop is performing great!
The little 9500 that could!
Why would you ever need a 470 for adobe premiere? I remember fiddling with the premiere 6 with my old athlon xp 1600mhz and geforce 3 ti200... Was slow as hell but usable..
Seriously, did adobe include some heavy graphic editing in their pro cs5 or is it just a good-ole overkill?
Yeah, Adobe has been putting a lot of effort into GPU acceleration. I don't know much about Premier, but I use Photoshop a lot, and it definitely speeds up a lot of tasks for me.
Pretty impressive that after 2 driver releases, they improved performance on the new architecture by almost 20% across the board!
True!
Nvidia has always had solid drivers that solve more problems, not create them like another video card maker we know....
True!Nvidia has always had solid drivers that solve more problems, not create them like another video card maker we know....
Well, that is not entirely true. To be fair, nVidia has had their fair share of screw-ups with with their drivers. They have on a few occassions now, introduced some annoying and even nasty, harmful bugs into their drivers (i.e. the fan speed control bug). But, the drivers have been getting better again which is always welcome.
I'll have to check these drivers out when I get home, though I will probably keep my eye on their forums just to make sure their aren't any problems reported, before I download them.
True!Nvidia has always had solid drivers that solve more problems, not create them like another video card maker we know....
WTF are you smoking? ATI and Nvidia both have buggy drivers from time to time... just a few months ago they released some bad ones like the one that killed the ability to oc the cards. Don't be blinded by your fanboydom.
I still want to see what Nvidia can do now they have learnt from their mistakes... Well I hope they have for future sake!
Why would you ever need a 470 for adobe premiere? I remember fiddling with the premiere 6 with my old athlon xp 1600mhz and geforce 3 ti200... Was slow as hell but usable..Seriously, did adobe include some heavy graphic editing in their pro cs5 or is it just a good-ole overkill?
Yeah with all the hd video now its almost all accelerated through the video card. You should take a look at some of it. Its really cool.
I don't do games. I'm using my GTX-470 for video editing with Adobe Premiere Pro CS5. Should I get this update?
I would try it when you have a bit of additional time and see what happens. If there are any problems in Adobe then you can rollback the drivers.
Why would you ever need a 470 for adobe premiere? I remember fiddling with the premiere 6 with my old athlon xp 1600mhz and geforce 3 ti200... Was slow as hell but usable..Seriously, did adobe include some heavy graphic editing in their pro cs5 or is it just a good-ole overkill?
The point of GPU acceleration is to make things a lot quicker, not increase the flashyness of effects. Those who spend the money on CS5 and a new Fermi card are likely professionals who can make a lot more money if they can work faster. Say you are working on a $1,200 job that would usually take 20 hours to complete but with less time waiting for loading it now only takes you 15 hours. That is a 33% pay raise.
True!Nvidia has always had solid drivers that solve more problems, not create them like another video card maker we know....
He's just trolling. I'm all for Nvidia coming out with better drivers (have GTX 470), but comments like that are just begging for a thumbs down...
The way I see it is that neither company has a perfect track record for drivers. Let's focus on the here and now. These new drivers are a good thing, and I am glad Nvidia is putting an effort into trying to make Fermi better.
One thing that I DONT like so far is the huge idle temp increase when using two monitors. This seriously needs to be addressed and fixed if possible. Running the card at full speed all the time just does not make sense. Can't they get it to run at a lower speed and still avoid monitor flicker?
They're still WHQL candidate drivers. I'm not going with non-WHQL drivers. I've had too many problems with them.
I'm looking forward to the next WHQL drivers, though.
Why would you ever need a 470 for adobe premiere? I remember fiddling with the premiere 6 with my old athlon xp 1600mhz and geforce 3 ti200... Was slow as hell but usable..Seriously, did adobe include some heavy graphic editing in their pro cs5 or is it just a good-ole overkill?
Adobe slowed down the program in major ways adding eye candy. (Not functional features, just fancy looking menus and transparent dialog boxes.) So, in order to bring it back up to a usable point, they added GPU acceleration. It's still a little slow on a 4870, I know that much. I haven't tried it on my new GTX 470 yet to see how big of an improvement it is. The feature differences between CS3, CS4, and CS5 are pretty small except for the interface level eye candy. All fluff, no substance. Most people wouldn't see the difference between them functionally.
The little 9500 that could!
So long as you're not doing much more than 2D desktop stuff and watching the odd HD movie here and there it's a splendid little card that can even run some of the less demanding pre 2006 games but anything more than that and you'd be better off with something else.
Pretty impressive that after 2 driver releases, they improved performance on the new architecture by almost 20% across the board!
How is initially releasing drivers that are that far from optimal somehow impressive?
Boosts and boosts. Only on single resolution/AA/AF setting. But nice "marketing" from nvidia as usual.
I don't do games. I'm using my GTX-470 for video editing with Adobe Premiere Pro CS5. Should I get this update?
I hope you`re using the hack for mercury playback engine along with that.
Why would you ever need a 470 for adobe premiere? I remember fiddling with the premiere 6 with my old athlon xp 1600mhz and geforce 3 ti200... Was slow as hell but usable..Seriously, did adobe include some heavy graphic editing in their pro cs5 or is it just a good-ole overkill?
Get an nvidia 1 GB memory video card , get premiere pro CS5 and CS5 hack and voila real time editing with your new system. Did this on a PII 940 , 8 GB ram , GTX 465 and i got to 5 full HD video tracks with effects and color correction real time. No Quadro bullshit like they advertise. Sadly no option for now for ATI cards .. i really hate my GTX power hungry and lots of heat.
True!Nvidia has always had solid drivers that solve more problems, not create them like another video card maker we know....
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php [...] try1012883
This was just a few months ago!
Selective memory? Or just blind?
Why would you ever need a 470 for adobe premiere? I remember fiddling with the premiere 6 with my old athlon xp 1600mhz and geforce 3 ti200... Was slow as hell but usable..Seriously, did adobe include some heavy graphic editing in their pro cs5 or is it just a good-ole overkill?
Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 makes deliberate, very heavy use of the CUDA capabilities of the GTX-470 and a short list of previous CUDA-capable cards that are now outdated in light of the GTX-470 and other members of the Fermie line. Reports are nothing less than dramatic. Google it.
actually these ARE good news, but also EXPECTED news... read the changelogs for the past 2 years and you'll see these "performance gains (that occur under very very very specific circumstances)" are always there...
I hope you`re using the hack for mercury playback engine along with that.
Absolutely the only way to go. Makes a world of difference. (Sooner or later the hack shouldn't be necessary. Adobe insiders expect the GTX-470 to be on an upcoming list of "approved/enabled" CUDA-capable cards for Premiere Pro CS5.)
Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 makes deliberate, very heavy use of the CUDA capabilities of the GTX-470 and a short list of previous CUDA-capable cards that are now outdated in light of the GTX-470 and other members of the Fermie line. Reports are nothing less than dramatic. Google it.
See my other post directly above. For now this has to be enabled with a hack. It's not yet officially approved and is not yet even enabled in Premiere Pro CS5 for the GTX-470.
See my other post directly above. For now this has to be enabled with a hack. It's not yet officially approved and is not yet even enabled in Premiere Pro CS5 for the GTX-470.
I know .. but they say it doesn`t work unless bla bla .. and yet you can start using that with 9800 GT ... as for ATI support it seems they might consider it in CS6, but i really doubt they will do it since it seems is an Adobe + nVidia marketing thing.
I know .. but they say it doesn`t work unless bla bla .. and yet you can start using that with 9800 GT ... as for ATI support it seems they might consider it in CS6, but i really doubt they will do it since it seems is an Adobe + nVidia marketing thing.
These comments you're making are really not based on knowledge. You should do some searching before commenting further. I am very involved with the groups of techs that are at the highest levels of Adobe and of implementation of Premiere Pro CS5 (developers, forum moderators, beta testers, and video production professionals). The hack to capitalize on the capabilities of the GTX-470 works, and makes all the difference.
Well, that is not entirely true. To be fair, nVidia has had their fair share of screw-ups with with their drivers. They have on a few occassions now, introduced some annoying and even nasty, harmful bugs into their drivers (i.e. the fan speed control bug). But, the drivers have been getting better again which is always welcome. I'll have to check these drivers out when I get home, though I will probably keep my eye on their forums just to make sure their aren't any problems reported, before I download them.
This is the exact reason I told a friend of mine to install the 197.45 drivers just last night on his fresh Win 7 install.
Boosts and boosts. Only on single resolution/AA/AF setting. But nice "marketing" from nvidia as usual.
Booo, you say only a single res/aa/af setting, for most people this is the "highest" setting unless you own a 30" monitor. Getting 10% more performance in STALKER at 1920x1200 with 4aa 16af is a good thing and you try to make it a negative.
Also, I doubt the drivers only improve with one setting. Did you expect them to list every single resolution/aa/af combo possible?
WTF are you smoking? ATI and Nvidia both have buggy drivers from time to time... just a few months ago they released some bad ones like the one that killed the ability to oc the cards. Don't be blinded by your fanboydom.
For about a 6 year stretch from approximately 2000 to 2006, ATI drivers were incredibly bad. In nearly every single game available on the market, there was a note in the "readme.txt" that listed some sort of known problem with certain ATI card models or drivers. I stopped paying any attention to ATI since then, which is why my estimate ends around 2006.
I have heard better things about their drivers for the last couple of years, but it was that long stretch of time that, imo, ruined ATI's reputation for quality drivers and it still echoes in people's ears today.