GeForce GTX 460 (GF104) Specs, Speeds Leaked?

Bring it on, the more competiton the more it will drive prices down!

whats the power usage?

gf104? let's see what this baby can do

Nvidia's starting to get competitive with prices, never thought i'd see that one coming.

But with the increase in temperatures and power consumption, the savings will probably go into coolers and power bills.

Just my opinion.

The GTX 460 has the same feel as a 5830 to me.
Great chip that was butchered to meet market demand with a price that still isn't quite right. I only bought a 5830 because my local shops only had a $200 5770 and a $225 5830 in stock.

i am so sick and tired of people asking about power usage!!! if you can afford to buy this type of cards then you should be able to pay for your electrical bill, if not then don't bother. personally I don't care if my system uses 200W or 1200W, who gives a crap. if you want performance you should understand that the system is going to be power hungry

he could be asking in order to get an idea as to how much heat or noise it produces, also he could be asking this question to find out if he would need to purchase a new power supply..... the reasons are plenty.

Agree completly. Anyone into serious gaming dont care much, it's still only a few $ extra and i for one gladly pay that for the performace. If your running a 24/7 server cluser i can understand power effichency is one of the key numbers but for serious gaming... no!

Go ahead then get a 3 way gtx480 and a ~300$ 1500w psu and burn your circuit board with over 1KW on it just from the computer. It's all about performance isn't it?

"if you can afford to buy this type of cards then you should be able to pay for your electrical bill, if not then don't bother."

The electrical bill is only one reason for being curious about power consumption. Other reasons, and possibly more relevant ones, would be heat and noise output.

Can my PSU handle this midrange card or do I have to step down a bit more or get a new PSU? Is my case airflow good enough, will other components be affected by potentially higher case temperatures? Will it limit my overclocking potential? Will high temperatures shorten the lifespan of the card? Is the fan noise bearable, either under idle or load?

There's lot of things that can be implied, or derived, from a cards power requirements. Naturally it's best to wait for the reviews but your assumption that people only care because of their electrical bill is fallacious at best.

yes i need something to bring the price of the 5850 down

The 1Gb card would be for me if I was upgrading from DX10 to DX11 but for now my 1GB GTX 285 card is still serving me well.

There are more uses for a GPU than gaming you know. People who care about power usage might be running folding@home 24/7 and not gaming at all. When you're running a pc (with anywhere from 1 to 7 graphic cards) 24/7 365days a year it costs a fortune. I know power usage affects what I buy as I'm running folding@home 24/7.

If I was only gaming for a few hours a day or my parents paid the bill because I was a child that lived at home, I wouldn't care.

(I'm 43 and pay my own bills, so I do care)

I agree to a point. They are probably asking (for good reason) to compare it to their power supply. You already know you do not want to overtax your PS or you will have serious stability issues.
My Corsair PS is about 650 Watt and is a very stable PS. It runs my Q9650 and single GTX 285 fine. It will not do a monster SLI but I did not build my rig with multiple video cards in mind.

I think I love you. (p.s. You are on the mark with that one.)

oh also.. has anyone done the math on the kilowat usage from a nominal like HTPC vs a high end dual GPU system? over a 1 year span? If were talking 200 bucks more electric bill in a year, I just don't see where the problem would come in. If it's $2000, then there is an issue.

I wonder how good these cards can run games.. Been thinking about building a mini-itx for gaming and i need a small card for that...

eh. At the price of $250 you might as well just get a 5850 which is just a bit more and is still a beast of a card, even a year from now it will still be a beast! It may still be around 280-300 but in my opinion its still worth every penny over this card. This is meant to be for those diehard Nvidia fans that just cant afford or just cant buy a 470 or a 480 and can go the easy route and SLI two of these 460 thinking they have a killer while in reality it might just be like a 5770, and in sli it will act like a 5770 crossfire setup.... Still a xfire 5850 is king in terms of value and max preformance

The more cards the merryer I guess.

It's still vaporware until 1) there are benchmarks and 2) you can readily find them for purchase.

Nice that it appears to be a short card.
@kalogagatya, just built one. PM me if you'd like details. Or go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTeAknYYVr8 for a slide show of the build.
So far I'm pleased with it.

Just bought a 4870 for $80. In a couple years when this next gen of cards are cheaper I will purchase a one for $80 - $100 again. And I will have spent a lot less than many people. All because I don't feel the need to have everything maxed out. To me, if a game can get a decent frame rate at default graphic settings and run the resolution I want then that is all I need.

"At the price of $250 you might as well just get a 5850 which is just a bit more"

the cheapest junker 5850 is still $40 more
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
and a quality one will run you almost $400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

In the backside pic you can see that there are two six-pin PCI-E connectors for the PSU (solder points), that means a maximum power consumption of:
150W(PCI-E 16X port 2.0 version)+75W+75W= 300W,
since six-pin PCI-E connectors provide 75W each and PCI-E eight-pin connectors supply a maximum of 150W.
So it should be around 230/280W for this card, presumably.

I would grab one if it performs on par with HD5770 costing no more than $15. Otherwise, I am gonna say pass to this gen ATI and nVidia.

I'll pass this one up if runs hotter and uses more power than my aging 8800gtx. I have other cards but these newer cards are a disappointment to say the least.

yeah that case can fit most decent graphic cards
thnks!

This generation is less about competition bringing down prices for consumers, and more about TSMC not being able to supply a great enough yield so that ATI + Nvidia can lower their MSRP due to less of a bill footed for silicone coasters. Any other generation it has been a given that competition has made the other guys lower their asking price, but TSMC just hasn't perfected 40nm yet.

I strongly disagree. Hardware needs to be efficient when it comes to power consumption, performance alone will not do. And this is not just about the bill, it is about the quality of the final product.

Increasing performance at the expense of wattage is unacceptable. We need to reduce power consumption worldwide on all fronts. The planet can only take so much crap from us humans.

On top of that some people like me might have a complex and very expensive UPS system rated for a certain amount of power, and if card a, b or c happens to surpass the limits of such UPS then it is completely useless to us, so we need to know about power consumption and we need this data to be accurate.

Fermi is a design fail, no matter how you cut it down, and no matter what price they charge for it.

You just can't turn chicken crap into chicken salad.

On the purely GPU front, damric you may be correct, but for CUDA / GPGPU it may be quite a powerhouse.

Hear that nVidia? Let it run for that, seamlessly with my existing ATi GPU, and I might buy one. Otherwise you get ZILCH.

That would be ALOT for this card.