Intel Reveals More on Haswell 22 nm CPU Coming 2013
Intel's Haswell to enable real all-day computing.
At IDF, Intel demonstrated a chip that will come after Ivy Bridge, the next "tick" in Intel's release schedule. That chip is codenamed Haswell, and it will bring architectural improvements to the 22 nm process that will first be introduced in Ivy Bridge.
Intel sees Haswell as the goal for its multi-phase Ultrabook initiative. Looking into its future plan for the platform, Intel CEO Paul Otellini described a new class of platform power management in development for the 2013 Haswell products for Ultrabooks.
Intel said that advances in silicon technology and platform engineering are expected to reduce idle platform power by more than 20 times over current designs without compromising computing performance. Otellini said he expects that this design change, combined with industry collaboration, will lead to more than 10 days of connected standby battery life by the time the products hit in 2013.
The connected standby battery life means that notebooks could operate like today's smartphones, which can be in a sleep mode but still stay connected, keeping the e-mail, social media and digital content up-to-date.
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...and the wait for Bulldozer continues.
Standby by connectivity of ten days for a laptop, sounds crazy cool. Might have to buy another laptop with advances like that.
...and the wait for Bulldozer continues.
Ironic the name contains both bull and dozer
Intel still trying to catch up to AMD in the laptop market.
It sounds like some folks are going thru upgrade withdrawal symptoms...
Glad to see Intel making technology upgrade n such but to bad i hate them due to their dirty practices.
Sounds good to me. I guess the tri-gate transistors are a good idea after all.
... and what will intel do about GPU?
Glad to see Intel making technology upgrade n such but to bad i hate them due to their dirty practices.
So, who in the computing industry has a clean record?
A few of them has cleaner track records than Intel's.
Apple do they have a clean record
No. And they also exclusively use Intel CPUs. lol
...and the wait for Bulldozer continues.
If I was CEO of AMD right now, I'd fire myself, talk about mismanagement.
That's nice. Too bad 90% of consumers don't really care. ARM processors have proven that Intel is just trying to perfect "buggy whips" for the 21st century.
But most of "today's smartphones" have a battery life of less than 24 hours.
Connected standby. As if I need to receive email WHEN THE LAPTOP IS ESSENTIALLY TURNED OFF. You know, I could receive all of my email all at once when it wakes up...
Think long and hard about that one, fanboys, before you start drooling over the latest PR.
If anything, this is probably designed to be used with Microsoft's NSA_KEY 2012 Professional Edition, since it has no obvious use for the owner of the computer...
AMD should skip a generation just so they can keep Intel on their toes. Still I hope bulldozer performs well for it's price
But most of "today's smartphones" have a battery life of less than 24 hours.
True, but irrelevant. Most of todays laptops have batteries that are the size of a smartphone or even bigger.
AMD should skip a generation just so they can keep Intel on their toes. Still I hope bulldozer performs well for it's price
AMD doesn't need to skip a generation. That's a foolish idea and will take even longer to dish out a new CPU (BD has been delayed many times, so why would delaying even more be a good idea?). Bulldozer is meant to compete with SB. However, on the BD Rumors thread, someone claimed to have met one of the guys from the OC world record who helped choose the chips. He said Ivy Bridge is going to have some competition. I doubt this though, but I could be wrong. Anyway, why should AMD worry about Haswell? They have Trinity for coming up next year. Plus, Haswell isn't for desktop use (unfortunately).
... and what will intel do about GPU?
IIRC Intel had a slide earlier this year stating something like "7X" the GPU performance of Sandy Bridge's HD 3000, so I'd guess you could play games at decent settings on it and still get decent fps. Supposedly Ivy Bridge will have up to 60% performance increase over Sandy Bridge, so this would be something like 4X IB's GPU perf.
I think Intel will be using stacked DDR3 memory on top of the die, with low latency and huge bandwidth - they are already working on 3D memory with the same stacking and silicon thru via's for connection.
AMD doesn't need to skip a generation. That's a foolish idea and will take even longer to dish out a new CPU (BD has been delayed many times, so why would delaying even more be a good idea?). Bulldozer is meant to compete with SB. However, on the BD Rumors thread, someone claimed to have met one of the guys from the OC world record who helped choose the chips. He said Ivy Bridge is going to have some competition. I doubt this though, but I could be wrong. Anyway, why should AMD worry about Haswell? They have Trinity for coming up next year. Plus, Haswell isn't for desktop use (unfortunately).
Just because they are focusing on power management in Haswell doesn't mean it won't have performance gains. If Haswell wasn't for desktops they would fall behind in the server market for 2 years because then Broadwell wouldn't be "for desktops" too, and Intel has a lot of oomph in the server market they don't want to lose with specialized chips for laptops over 2 years.
A lot of the power use comes from motherboard, ram, etc.
AMD doesn't need to skip a generation. That's a foolish idea and will take even longer to dish out a new CPU (BD has been delayed many times, so why would delaying even more be a good idea?). Bulldozer is meant to compete with SB. However, on the BD Rumors thread, someone claimed to have met one of the guys from the OC world record who helped choose the chips. He said Ivy Bridge is going to have some competition. I doubt this though, but I could be wrong. Anyway, why should AMD worry about Haswell? They have Trinity for coming up next year. Plus, Haswell isn't for desktop use (unfortunately).
This right here is incorrect. Haswell is the codename, just like Sandy Bridge, for a new arch using the 22nm process that Ivy bridge will debut. That means there will be Desktop, server and mobile variants.
As for BD competing with IB, I doubt it. I don't think BD will push SB enough.
...and the wait for Bulldozer continues.
I agree. So far we have preliminary (yet with a buggy BIOS) SB-E performance numbers and that wont be out until November this year, we have tons of info on IB and are starting to get info on Haswell. I wouldn't be suprised if Intel doesn't show Haswell off in May next year like they did for Ivy Bridge.
Just begs the question as to why AMD is keeping it so closed doors.
We need bulldozer now - I hope its an absolute brute of a CPU that sticks its middle finger up to power savings but absolutely rocks the socks of SB with 8 cores that can overclock to the max for the power users out there.
intel make the cpu low power but again the chipset are power hungry ...... hope it is not another intel Atom crap thing
Bulldozer is sounding more like Fermidozer every passing day. I'm worried it'll be too little too late.
IIRC Intel had a slide earlier this year stating something like "7X" the GPU performance of Sandy Bridge's HD 3000, so I'd guess you could play games at decent settings on it and still get decent fps. Supposedly Ivy Bridge will have up to 60% performance increase over Sandy Bridge, so this would be something like 4X IB's GPU perf.I think Intel will be using stacked DDR3 memory on top of the die, with low latency and huge bandwidth - they are already working on 3D memory with the same stacking and silicon thru via's for connection.
at the time intel HD graphic able to handle stupid fb games right, AMD APU already can handle crisis 3 in high setting and nvidia tegra 3 will come into laptop market ......
HD 3000 can run more than "stupid fb games". I have personally played World of Warcraft on an i7-2630M with HD 3K and gotten decent framerates.
Haswell is having 10 to 15 watt TDP and is upto 8 cores and 32MB L3 cache (16 way) and also a dx11.1 gpu.
I think its more than enough for an ultrabook in 2013.
Amd should make a better Trinity apu with low TDP to compete with intel haswell.
no wonder why some posts got "hide" by itself, because they are amd fanboys who posts wrong statements at the wrong topic. ha ha ha. please, if you're so desperate about your slow-moving-bulldozer, put your comment at appropriate topic, not in this one. idiot!
All the new chips coming out are like the 4X4's they run slower when all 4 wheels are engaged but run faster when just 2 are hyped up. Although the 4 give more horsepower for tough climbing jobs, the 2 tide you along on the highway just fine at crazy speeds.....
So basically what we have seen is a drop in the TDP , an increase in the working capacity and max speeds, but, at the same time it's a same chip just with a few minor adjustments.
So it looks like until 2013 we're all going to be playing in Intels small box, with different versions of the same thing.
AMD really ought to do something about this....
... and what will intel do about GPU?
And their SSDs! No match for Sandforce. Even their new enterprise SSD has less encryption power than sandforce (while being insanely slower)
Either Intel has advanced alien technology, Haswell is gonna be Atom II, or Hasewell is an ARM design.