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Next Apple TV is $99, HD 'iPhone with No Display'

By - Source: Tom's Hardware US | B 34 comments

Over the weekend, word got out about Apple's plans for the Apple TV platform.

Just a week or so after Google launched its TV platform, a well-timed tip to Engadget has revealed details of the next Apple TV.

The most interesting part of it all is probably the price; at $99, it's cheap, but given that it's described as 'an iPhone without a display' it's hard to imagine how they could charge any more than a hundred bucks for it.

Engadget's Joshua Topolsky reports that the device will be based on iPhone 4 architecture, which means the same Apple A4 chip as the iPad and presumably the next generation iPhone. With only power and video out, the device isn't exactly rich in the ports department and it comes with just 16GB of flash storage. However, Apple isn't trying to sell a device with tons of connectivity and room for all six seasons of Lost. The company is said to be moving away from local storage and instead going for cloud-based storage. There'll be an option to use a Time Capsule (which comes in 1TB and 2TB flavors) for the folks who can't stand the idea of cloud storage but it'll cost you.

Though it wasn't confirmed in the Engadget report, there's a possibility that apps will also be available because the whole thing is running on iPhone 4. However, scaling would provide a problem.

Don't expect to hear more about this at WWDC next week because apparently, Apple won't be announcing anything TV-related then.

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    requiemsallure , June 1, 2010 12:15 AM
    aside from the fact that it is apple (although kudos to $99, its an apple first) cloud-based storage completely turns me off of a product like this.
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    lauxenburg , June 1, 2010 12:05 AM
    1080p at decent frame rates??....I'm skeptical.
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    JMcEntegart , June 1, 2010 12:34 AM
    TA152H"An iPhone without a display"? This is probably a stupid question, because I don't know much about these devices, but how can you watch it, if it doesn't have a display? Sorry if it's a stupid question.


    It's a box that you plug into your TV. : )
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    lauxenburg , June 1, 2010 12:05 AM
    1080p at decent frame rates??....I'm skeptical.
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    requiemsallure , June 1, 2010 12:15 AM
    aside from the fact that it is apple (although kudos to $99, its an apple first) cloud-based storage completely turns me off of a product like this.
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    nforce4max , June 1, 2010 12:18 AM
    WTH is this o.O

    They must be getting desperate or more greedy than usual. I'll stick with my crappy VHS and DVD player. Note I very rarely watch TV at all, all those hours spent playing wow.
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    Spanky Deluxe , June 1, 2010 12:25 AM
    In other words - iTunes streaming from other machines on the network and TV show/Film/maybe Music streaming straight from Apple. If they were to offer something like that but with a reasonably priced season pass for all TV Shows, for example, then it could become a real competitor to the likes of paid satellite and cable. 1080p would be easily doable on such hardware provided a graphics chip that supports hardware acceleration is included.
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    ta152h , June 1, 2010 12:28 AM
    "An iPhone without a display"? This is probably a stupid question, because I don't know much about these devices, but how can you watch it, if it doesn't have a display?

    Sorry if it's a stupid question.
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    JMcEntegart , June 1, 2010 12:34 AM
    TA152H"An iPhone without a display"? This is probably a stupid question, because I don't know much about these devices, but how can you watch it, if it doesn't have a display? Sorry if it's a stupid question.


    It's a box that you plug into your TV. : )
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    zybch , June 1, 2010 12:39 AM
    Knowing apple thogh, they'll give is composite video out only, because 'thats all anyone will need'.
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    maigo , June 1, 2010 12:40 AM
    So the display costs the other $500?
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    dtemple , June 1, 2010 1:13 AM
    It's based around the iPhone 4 architecture, which means it's good enough for... wait for it... gaming at the same graphical level as PS2 and (original) Xbox. This could be Apple's icebreaker into the gaming market if they play their cards right. A $99 device that not only provides cloud-based TV recording and playback, but basic gaming capabilities? This could be the ace up their sleeve.
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    tipoo , June 1, 2010 1:17 AM
    If its anything like the current one, 1080p really means "1080p but compressed to a lower bitrate than DVD's".
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    long2know , June 1, 2010 1:45 AM
    dtempleIt's based around the iPhone 4 architecture, which means it's good enough for... wait for it... gaming at the same graphical level as PS2 and (original) Xbox. This could be Apple's icebreaker into the gaming market if they play their cards right. A $99 device that not only provides cloud-based TV recording and playback, but basic gaming capabilities? This could be the ace up their sleeve.

    I'm not seeing it. An Xbox360 arcade for $150 will run circles around this thing and already provides more capabilities, features, inputs, etc etc.
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    gpace , June 1, 2010 2:05 AM
    Apple? $99? What? Wait, considering that the Ipad screen cost nearly $100 and it also lacks many of other things a phone has (speaker, battery, motion sensor, and such) the price isn't really surprising. The CPU chip and memory is less then $60 total (numbers from the Ipad building cost) so the $99 price tag is about what Apple will price it.

    A Nettop (netbook with no screen or keyboard) is about $200-300(and does a lot more), but I do see how a device like this might be attractive. Meanwhile, I'll stick with my laptop and plug in to my TV when I want a bigger screen (yaya HDMI and DisplyPort)
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    dtemple , June 1, 2010 3:33 AM
    smlong426I'm not seeing it. An Xbox360 arcade for $150 will run circles around this thing and already provides more capabilities, features, inputs, etc etc.

    First of all, you're missing the fact that an Xbox 360 Arcade has virtually no built-in storage for media files, and it's still a Microsoft product that costs more than the comparable Apple product. That never happens.
    Secondly, it would take nothing for Apple to release game controllers that utilize the iPhone's built-in bluetooth. Not to mention the games that are currently available for iPad probably would look decent at 480p upconverted.
    Thirdly, find me a new Xbox 360 Arcade for $150. Or $99 for that matter.
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    snotling , June 1, 2010 4:23 AM
    The real point is Apple (and Google) will provide the customer with cheap hardware and software solutions to view streams of TV and movies on which they will make A LOT! (I have nothing against that)

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    kronos_cornelius , June 1, 2010 4:24 AM
    Apple should get a history book sometime. Remember AOL, they tried to create a caged Internet... And what happened to them?

    The best Apple can do is make their Apple TV is to make it compatible with what Sony and Google have in mine (which is open). Otherwise we'll be saying "Remember that company apple ?" 10 years from now.
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    unrealpinky , June 1, 2010 5:02 AM
    I was half expecting to see an announcement that apple would be making TV monitors also and that their AppleTV would only work on their TV's. I'm sure this will be popular, just as the iPhone was/is, but I'm afraid that this will just degrade into the same issues that exist today with Apple products: too expensive (I'm sure there will be a monthly subscription fee for the cloud storage and "exclusive" content) and too controlled (no Flash, porn sites blocked, etc...).
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    Arethel , June 1, 2010 5:12 AM
    zybchKnowing apple thogh, they'll give is composite video out only, because 'thats all anyone will need'.


    Actually... Since it's Apple shouldn't we expect a $99 Apple Video Adapter since composite video is universal?
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    narf23 , June 1, 2010 5:41 AM
    zybchKnowing apple thogh, they'll give is composite video out only, because 'thats all anyone will need'.
    The current AppleTV does not support composite...I would say they'll give HDMI 1.4 as a standard..

    I purchased the old AppleTV 2nd hand about two years ago - after the first day hacked it and installed XBMC to stream all my series and movies from a NAS. Recently installed the Broadcom BCM70012 HD Decoder and now streaming the latest MKV full HD videos. This is a device I use on a daily basis and feel this new AppleTV will do well.
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    Jarmo , June 1, 2010 6:46 AM
    1080p with DRM speedbumps in place, with the A4 chip when Core solo can't hande it? Bull.
    Apple introducing a new hot device... for $99? Bull.

    Speculation and wishful thinking.
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    Anonymous , June 1, 2010 7:44 AM
    I wonder how well the multi-touch will work on these :) 
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