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AMD's Partners Say ''Whoa'' to Llano Fusion Chips

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

The hybrid is coming.

AMD's dropping of the ATI brand was a sign that the company is moving towards a future where the lines between CPU and GPU are blurred.

We know about the Bobcat and Bulldozer cores en route, but what about Llano – the first mainstream Fusion product from AMD?

AMD's Leslie Sobon, Vice President Worldwide Product Marketing, shared in an interview with InsideHW a rough ballpark date of when we'll be seeing Fusion chips in our computers.

"We are shipping Ontario and Zacate in Q4 this year, and products should hit the shelves early next year," said Sobon. "Llano will start shipping in the first half or 2011, and products should be available in summer 2011.

"While Ontario is oriented towards the netbook market, Llano is for the bulk of the market, in terms of mainstream and high-end notebooks and mainstream desktops. As we move from Zacate and Ontario platforms to Brazos, you will get more features, more functionality."

Sobon added that it's difficult to nail a hard date for products, particularly notebooks, because it takes 12 to 18 months for notebook designs to become products on the market. Whenever it does, though, she thinks it'll be a hit.

"And let me tell you one thing about Llano, the reaction of all our partners after seeing the demo was, in one word, 'whoa'."

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ares1214 09/14/2010 4:16 PM
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I was hoping for a bit earlier on Llano. This gives a pretty large lead to intel as far as time. Any news on Scorpius/BD?

Agges 09/14/2010 4:19 PM
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The 'Whoa' I usually use is when something is slow... Followed by me considering hitting my head on the desk! BTW No AMD hate, great with decent integrated products in the pipeline

nightcrawl3r 09/14/2010 4:35 PM
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I didn't know this was possible but I am glad this is happening.

gwellin 09/14/2010 4:36 PM
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"Whoa"? Is Keano Reeves one of there partners?

huron 09/14/2010 4:36 PM
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Honestly, I had thought the title was implying they weren't impressed and wanted to stop it until I read the article.

Now I'm left wondering if the partners sounded like Keanu Reeves in nearly every movie he has been in, or was it more like Joey Lawrence type of whoa?

superblahman123 09/14/2010 4:38 PM
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ok, so they're starting out in the netbook market, where Intel already has dominance (mostly anyway). They come out with a whole new tech that changes the game, the way motherboards need to be setup, and give hardware vendors a headache to gather support for this tech while Intel continues their lead on their HT CPU's and force feed people that "more cores = 'better!'" They may still have the lead for awhile against Nvidia, but Intel is going to be tricky to top.

I love this idea from AMD, my only fear is that Intel will have already gotten too far ahead of them by the time this tech comes out.

pcworm 09/14/2010 4:44 PM
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Anonymous 09/14/2010 4:46 PM
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When I say WHOA - I MEAN WHOA!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBhlQgvHmQ0

dalta centauri 09/14/2010 4:47 PM
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DX11 capable integrated gpu within a quad core cpu that's being brought onto the market, starting off with netbooks/notebooks? This is gonna be pretty cool.
Honestly, when I saw "woah" I actually took it as.
"Woah, serious ***'s happening."

Anonymous 09/14/2010 4:50 PM
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The Future is FUSION!!!

Anonymous 09/14/2010 4:53 PM
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some performance charts and specs would be nice

Anonymous 09/14/2010 4:57 PM
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@superblahman123

i share your concern, except what does intel have up their sleeve, sandy bridge.....

if i recall Lynx uses a llano core too, so maybe we might see lynx first half 2011 too

alidan 09/14/2010 5:11 PM
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there are a few things that i ahve to say/ask.

1 this is a cpu+gpu in one chip. assuming that, aren't cpus suppose to be cooler than gpus? wouldn't this be a complete pain to cool?

2 @superblahman123 more cores are better, however that is physical cores, logical are hit and miss.

also intel was trying to make a gpu, and had to abandon it, kind of. apparently they made it as powerful as a nvidia 280, but nothing realy came of it yet, and so far, at lest netbook wise, less power is better, and 1 chip instead of 2 would be far better and possibly leave more room for something else, amd has the potential to completely own this market for the next 2 years, unless intel or nvidia do something amassing.

and with notebooks, same thing, if they make a portable phenom 955 and hd5770 equivalent, than they own the notebook market, but they wouldn't own the desktop replacement by the time he notebook version hits.

nforce4max 09/14/2010 5:30 PM
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More liek "woe' time wise they need to bring products to market sooner or they will continue to be only second best.

Parsian 09/14/2010 5:40 PM
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GO AMD!!!

kelemvor4 09/14/2010 5:42 PM
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Stifle 09/14/2010 5:46 PM
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Good to know that the products are on the way. One can only hope that crossfire is possible between a fusion GPU and a dedicated card.

tu_illegalamigo 09/14/2010 5:51 PM
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I can`t wait to see the benchmarks, then insh`allah buy that up!

MrMooky 09/14/2010 5:57 PM
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Suprised no one has made a Joey Lawrence reference yet...

grieve 09/14/2010 5:58 PM
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If AMD produces a CPU and a GPU that’s decent on a single die the computer world will change. THIS IS HUGE!

Intel will lose its reign for a long time; the acquisition of ATI is about to pay off! Intel could be in trouble here, not only do they not have a decent GPU they also don't have a decent GPU on the same die as their CPU.

I’m considering buying AMD stocks right now! lol. The future is promising.

greghome 09/14/2010 6:38 PM
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I think in just a few years, a HD5870's performance can be delivered in ur APU too.
kudos for AMD helping me save cash on a GPU on my next build

marsax73 09/14/2010 6:58 PM
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I'm glad I switched back to AMD for my CPU. I've been really happy with the performance and I have had AMD cpu's going back to the 486 days. Kudos to AMD for trying!

Anonymous 09/14/2010 7:57 PM
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Quote :Ontario

They got it from Mortal Kombat's 'Motaro'?

http://zonamortalkombat.site40.net [...] motaro.gif

lashton 09/14/2010 8:04 PM
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DM0407 09/14/2010 8:50 PM
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Quote :"Whoa"? Is Keano Reeves one of there partners?


and Joey Lawrence

Zingam 09/14/2010 9:11 PM
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''Whoa'' - What does this mean? Are they vomiting or what?

BulkZerker 09/14/2010 9:24 PM
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nforce4max :
More liek "woe' time wise they need to bring products to market sooner or they will continue to be only second best.



With Nvidia bringing out nothing but rehashes and intel happy to sit on their asses blocking the ION outright I think AMD has a sporting chance in '11 in the notebook sector. Desktop replacements however, that's IMHO still Intel's territory.

bhaberle 09/14/2010 9:40 PM
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gwellin :
"Whoa"? Is Keano Reeves one of there partners?


lol! nice... I hope these do well. That way Intel and Nvidia will get off their pedestal and lower their prices while making better products.

g00fysmiley 09/14/2010 9:41 PM
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i can't wait for benchmakrs. I'm hopeful for the technology to be a success but wary abotu it not beating seprate gpu/cpu setups and maybe not even having a better cost .. btu hopefully i'll be wrogn and it'll be awosme i'll buy one it so as soon as the desktop chips come out bout time to upgrade my socket 754

hannibal 09/14/2010 10:04 PM
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In anyway the notebook department is the area where Intel has had biggest lead, so It is guite good sign that they try to challenge intel it that area. This can mean faster, cheaper notebooks in near future!
The problem is again Intel production technology lead. They can produce chips cheaper in smaller size than AMD for guite a long time. So this will not be an free ride to AMD even I am guite sure that the build in GPU is something that Intel can not touch in short run.

verrul 09/14/2010 10:12 PM
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there is a product demo of the 18 watt chip running city of heroes on a netbook


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