MSI Intros New Gaming Laptop And Dock For Discrete GPU
MSI introduced the GS30 Shadow, the company's newest gaming notebook that packs the latest fourth generation Core i7 processor and a 13.3-inch screen. MSI also introduced a "GamingDock" built for the GS30 Shadow that houses a discrete graphics card. This dock will be released in January 2015, and the laptop is expected to launch in the USA sometime before that.
The laptop include the previously mentioned 13.3-inch anti-glare screen, which has a 2560 x 1440 resolution. There's the Core i7 processor with Iris Pro graphics (MSI didn't specify the model number), up to 16 GB of DDR3L memory (up to 1600 MHz), two M.2 SSDs with Super Raid and an HD webcam capable of 30 frames per second at 720p.
The new gaming laptop also includes a backlit keyboard, two USB 3.0 ports, an SD card reader, an HDMI 1.4b port, gigabit Ethernet and Wireless AC and Bluetooth 4.0 connectivity. There's also a microphone and headphone jack and a built-in 4-cell Li-ion battery. The laptop weighs 2.86 pounds and measures a super-slim 0.78 inches in height.
"The amazing graphics powered by Intel Iris Pro is designed and targeted to the majority [of] gaming titles and the performance is more than double while compared with previous generation," the press release said. "With support to DX11.1, OpenCL 1.2, OpenGL 4.0 and enhanced 4k x 2k, the GS30 Shadow sets the new benchmark for gaming notebooks and makes every user gaming everywhere."
According to the announcement, the GamingDock doesn't come with a pre-mounted desktop graphics card; that's for the customer to buy and install. The company didn't provide specs, but there appears to be a speaker on each side, as well as USB ports. The company also hinted at the possibility that other laptops could use this dock, as well. Presumably, the main connection between the dock and laptop will be through USB 3.0.
At press time, MSI hadn't provided any pricing info, but we've reached out to the company for more answers, particularly about the GameDock.
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Why? 1080p is more than enough, especially on screens smaller than 21". This thing is freaking 13 inches. Even 720p would be enough.
Going with lower resolutions reduces battery consumption and improves performance in games.
Why? 1080p is more than enough, especially on screens smaller than 21". This thing is freaking 13 inches. Even 720p would be enough.
Going with lower resolutions reduces battery consumption and improves performance in games.
I agree. So we buy one and GUT IT. :3
Sir Knobsworth has a fair point that even on USB 3.0 though, that's going to be a bottleneck for discrete graphics that can power 1440p.
As for the whole resolution issue...
I'm on soldier 44's side simply because so so so many small laptops still have ridiculously tiny screen resolutions. 1080p? Fine. 1440p? Ideal. 4K seems kind of silly as of yet.
@ The Mentalist:
No. Just no. When was the last time you used a 720p laptop? I have a netbook with that resolution, and it's freaking miserable. It breaks things.
If a 5" phone brags about a 1080p screen, then a 14" laptop can have one, when that's the industry standard and resolutions too far below it break all sorts of various programs' UI.
Yes, ridiculous resolutions like what are on the Razor Blade are nothing but battery drainers, but 1440p would be wonderful to have as a new 'standard option' on laptops.
Also, while I agree with you, I just re-read the article, and it doesn't say anywhere that it actually is connecting through USB, just that it has them on the hub.
It could well be using thunderbolt or displayport... or even one of the funky slot/card options.
Why? 1080p is more than enough, especially on screens smaller than 21". This thing is freaking 13 inches. Even 720p would be enough.
Going with lower resolutions reduces battery consumption and improves performance in games.
Yes! I completely agree.
I agree. So we buy one and GUT IT. :3
Sir Knobsworth has a fair point that even on USB 3.0 though, that's going to be a bottleneck for discrete graphics that can power 1440p.
As for the whole resolution issue...
I'm on soldier 44's side simply because so so so many small laptops still have ridiculously tiny screen resolutions. 1080p? Fine. 1440p? Ideal. 4K seems kind of silly as of yet.
@ The Mentalist:
No. Just no. When was the last time you used a 720p laptop? I have a netbook with that resolution, and it's freaking miserable. It breaks things.
If a 5" phone brags about a 1080p screen, then a 14" laptop can have one, when that's the industry standard and resolutions too far below it break all sorts of various programs' UI.
Yes, ridiculous resolutions like what are on the Razor Blade are nothing but battery drainers, but 1440p would be wonderful to have as a new 'standard option' on laptops.
1080p is plentiful for laptops. I'd say for 13.3 inch and less laptops, 1366x768 is ideal, 17 inch laptops should be 1080p, and in between, so 14 inch, 15 inch, etc. 900p would be perfect.
Oh, I agree that 1080p is enough for laptops. That doesn't mean that 1440p isn't a wonderful thing on gaming laptops that can handle it, though... if only because then it would mean you wouldn't have to resize things to get used to switching between your laptop and gaming computer. (I know, first world problems, right? I wish I had that one.)
I do still completely disagree that 1366x768 is a decent option, regardless of screen size. Period. It's not a matter of pixel density, it's a matter of the fact that in a whole bunch of programs, a resolution that low breaks programs, and they get UI elements overlapping or simply taking up 3/4 of the usable space. It's time we stop listening to cable companies and abandon "HD" screens as the old, obsolete things that they were and accept that 1080p is the standard among media consumers and 900p tends to be standard among office, business, and school computers.
Also, while I agree with you, I just re-read the article, and it doesn't say anywhere that it actually is connecting through USB, just that it has them on the hub.
It could well be using thunderbolt or displayport... or even one of the funky slot/card options.
is a 16x pcie slot on the bottom o the lap top that desk looking think is the gpu station is docked to fallow the link to msi website and it explainses it a bit.
Except that this is for the people that want to have portability when they are on the go, and a strong desktop when they are home. This way they don't need both since mobile ram and i7's are more than strong enough to power high end discrete graphics cards...
Except that this is for the people that want to have portability when they are on the go, and a strong desktop when they are home. This way they don't need both since mobile ram and i7's are more than strong enough to power high end discrete graphics cards...
Also, while I agree with you, I just re-read the article, and it doesn't say anywhere that it actually is connecting through USB, just that it has them on the hub.
It could well be using thunderbolt or displayport... or even one of the funky slot/card options.
"Presumably, the main connection between the dock and laptop will be through USB 3.0."
You might try reading a little more carefully. I also agree that the 5 Gbit max theoretical rate of USB 3.0 just doesn't seem likely to be adequate. My guess is that for any kind of discrete gaming graphics to be workable, 20Gbit (PCIe 1.0 x8) is pretty much the minimum bandwidth required.
I wouldn't really say that you can use gaming laptops to game "almost everywhere"......
Between short battery life of these types of laptops while gaming (*most* gaming laptops dont last beyond 2 hours while playing games on battery) and the heat that builds up pretty quick in the majority of them..... most people i know stay near the power outlet and typically have them on a laptop-stand or desk to keep the heat off them.
Which as my point above, a gaming laptop will need to be plugged in anyways for any long duration gaming (even alienware and Razer new 13/14in laptops that you mention struggle to do 2 hours of gaming on battery). so that's not much of an issue there of being "portable".
As for a SFF system, that would technically be less portable than this system as you would need to carry 7 or more items minimal to a new location:
* system,
* monitor
* keyboard
* mouse (although any serious gamer would still use a mouse on any computer),
* video cord
* power cords
* some sound system (headphones or speakers)
While this you would have to carry 4 to 5 things minimal:
*system (keyboard, speaker, and monitor is built into the laptop)
*dock
*mouse
*power cord(s) (could possibly charge from dock if they design it to do such).
Maybe im not seeing what your seeing but that's how im viewing it.
Also, I dont care for gaming laptops in general. I'd Rather have a gaming/High performance desktop for those tasks and a high battery life laptop that I can use for light/moderate productivity, web surfing, and/or email....
Although instead of thinking inside the box, Thinking outside of it, I can see the benefit of having a single system that could do all that.....
Small tight living space such as a college dorm or apartment where space is a premium and/or having multiple devices isn't idle for the user needs.
Say for college, have a long lasting laptop for your classes (which I could see 4 to 6 or more hours of battery life from this system) and a relatively high performing gaming computer at the end of the day.
And I can think of more scenarios that this system would do well in.
It's all about application and user needs for a product.
Also, while I agree with you, I just re-read the article, and it doesn't say anywhere that it actually is connecting through USB, just that it has them on the hub.
It could well be using thunderbolt or displayport... or even one of the funky slot/card options.
"Presumably, the main connection between the dock and laptop will be through USB 3.0."
You might try reading a little more carefully. I also agree that the 5 Gbit max theoretical rate of USB 3.0 just doesn't seem likely to be adequate. My guess is that for any kind of discrete gaming graphics to be workable, 20Gbit (PCIe 1.0 x8) is pretty much the minimum bandwidth required.
Although that's a "guess" from the author...... Which the msi page tom's links to doesn't reference to anything about how the dock will connect.
Well it sort of does but doesn't...
Only way to fill both requirements of being specifically design for so that it isn't being used on anything else and being able to use the PCI-e bandwidth...... It has to be some proprietary connector that there not talking about.
Thunderbolt and USB cant fill those requirements as those could be used on any system and usb doesn't have enough bandwidth to support (nor the protocol) such high demands....
So that's the only thing I can conclude from that.
But if I buy this combo of laptop and docking station, there will still be a huge box sitting on my dinnertable. So if I need a big box anyway, why not just buy a stationary computer?