Next-gen AMD Fusion CPU + GPU Coming in 2015

beautiful stuff, but the true system builder (most of us on toms) will want a GPU seperate from the CPU, just so we can choose excactly what we want.

I do see this becoming ideal in netbooks, small desktops, office computers, HTCP's etc.

Love to see computer evolution!

This should definitely shake up the market a bit, but by that time the major CPU manufacturers would have already done this, hopefully AMD isn't going to make us wait 5 whole years (as said) to put a GPU onto a already outdated Phenom II CPU architecture.

(Forgot how to edit my own post)
What i mean by "outdated" is that Phenom II is nothing revolutionary performance-wise on a clock for clock basis, AMD need's to implement it's GPU core into a newer architecture with better performance per clock, this would ensure nobody would have to sacrifice CPU performance for a IGP (or whatever you wish to call a GPU on a CPU)

Please AMD dont make this another larrabee. This is a great chance to pull ahead of intel dont mess up.

Can't to see the resultss of the 2nd gen.

By that time bio chips will be out making this tech obsolete.
http://www.physorg.com/news192801007.html

This seems like too little WAY too late. 5 years? Really?

Intel who? Go AMD!! Along with the GPU, if they can throw in the audio, LAN, and a TB SSD in the CPU die, then I'll be impressed because my desktop won't be the noisy tower it is now.

If you had a dual socket system mobo and threw in two of these, is that considered SLI?

AMD should convince also software developers for lot of support, with lack of software running it, it will end up like Itanium.

2015? That's too long. Unless AMD starts throwing out of the door new tech every 18 months like Intel they'll never have the chance survive.
I bet until 2015 Intel will throw at them many more surprises unless Sandy Bridge is a crap like P4 and I doubt that Intel will repeat that mistake any time soon.

nvidia wont like this one bit...

It will be nice if AMD give the user an option to disable the integrated GPU.

I think that rather than disable it, they should implement the same tech thats hitting notebooks where the hardware can switch between the integrated and dedicated GPU's depending on the work load, or even allowing them to be operating at the same time giving the system more computational power depending on the workload and how tasks can be divided up.

Sounds a lot like what Nvidia has been saying about combing GPU and general computing into the same hardware.

lol no offense but DNA powered computers are at least ten years away the ethical and moral implications of such topic alone would cause tons of debates in congress plus half the nerds here (me included) would fear the potential rise of a sky net like computer that will want to replace us with machines, i will stick with silicone and metal thank you lol

They are releasing a fusion chip to vendors now, meaning a version of the fusion chip is being released probably by next year. This article says that a fully integrated Fusion chip will be out in 2015. Whereas the Fusion chip coming out now is a slapped together Phenom II and a GPU, the next gen Fusion chips will probably be designed from the ground up as one cohesive unit.

You should read more about fusion before you make anymore of these ~~`. It does not mean under fusion the external GPU sub-system option will not be available. If more graphics acceleration is needed then certainly one can add a discrete video card that goes along the APU

One thing about integrating the GPU with CPU and having a dedicated graphics card is that the fully integrated GPU can assist the CPU do calculations like Anti-virus, Physics, and other GPU assisted calculations. This leaves the dedicated GPU to do its own work without having to add in these extra calculations. It may also be easier to code a CPU with integrated GPU then a CPU and seperate GPU.

Not to mention the point is that combining a GPU and CPU adds computational options beyond just graphics. You can add a graphics card and still take advantage of the GPU on a Fusion processor in other ways.

No, it's considered Crossfire

now just put that chip on a PCI-E card with 4GB of RAM and we can reinvent the desktop computer.

Actually, I predict that in the future you will have generic sockets on your motherboard that you can either slot a fusion, a dedicated GPU, or a dedicated CPU into or any combination thereof. Talk about the ultimate in customization for power users!!!

So AMD is essentially trying to replicate the Fermi architecture but with a stronger emphasis on the CPU than the GPU side of things. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it's just good proof that Fermi isn't nearly as bad as most fanboys make it out to be. You can downvote this as you did the other guy who made a similar observation but it is the truth.

Parallel computing is finally coming. This is where we will gain some serious performance gains on tasks that are often repeated or can be completed simultaneously.

Having a GPU on the CPU I don't expect to prevent anyone from adding in a high performance GPU add on card for desktop systems. For mobile systems this may be a great way to cut down costs and power consumption.

Five years is an eternity in the computer business. I wouldn't get too excited or dismayed about this.

They sure aren't in a hurry. Hope they don't go bankrupt before that.

Gee thanks for the five year notice. What will you be doing in between now and then?

They don't have x86 license and they don't have any know-how about CPUs so they are building things like "Fermi" which add a lot of overhead for nothing. Intel will probably by them after few years.

AMD is too late. We will all be dead come Dec. 21st, 2012

AMD's GPUs already support OpenCL as well as ATI Stream and can do GPGPU functions just like Fermi. Their downfall is more that Nvidia pushed CUDA very well, and obviously, they can't support CUDA on their cards. While true, an AMD card would not perform in GPGPU functions as well as Fermi, saying they're trying to replicate them is silly considering they already have similar applications, and have had for a while. Nvidia is just ahead in the software game, so here's hoping OpenCL (key word Open) takes off and CUDA dies. Then it won't matter what GPU you have. Fermi just takes GPGPU to a new level (with more hardware to support it), however, the difference between this solution and Fermi is, I believe, that Fusion will *automatically* shunt OpenCL and floating points and whatever is more efficient on the GPU, straight to the GPU, whereas Fermi isn't automatic.

How do you pull ahead by being 5 years behind? LOL I mean, AMD's plan is probably further integration than what Intel has on their i3 line, but still. It's like announcing in 2010 that you've created a new digital camera that prints it's own pictures right after you take them! (Polaroid)

What AMD/ATI needs to do is CATCH UP with Intel. AMD is doing well now simply because of pricing, not because of overall performance compared to Intel. That's why my last two CPUs have been Intel (the first Intel chips I've used).

Good to see AMD having a plan for past the near-future!