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Acer Founder: Apple is Like a Mutant Virus

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Acer founder Stan Shih compared Apple's products to mutant viruses while also predicting a grim future for US-based PC manufacturers.

Wednesday during an interview, Acer founder Stan Shih took a slight jab at Apple, comparing its products--namely the iPad, iPhone, and iPod Touch--to mutant viruses. According to the exec, its difficult to find a cure for said viruses in the short-term, however he believes that the PC industry will eventually find a way to contain the infection, and become immune to its effects.

However Shih didn't completely devalue Steve Jobs and his accomplishments. He noted the success of Apple's innovation and creativity through iTunes and the introduction of apps. Shih said that PC vendors need to follow the lead and focus less on hardware and more on innovative software in order to grab a portion of the growing market.

Shih also added that Apple actually deserves a little respect. While PC manufacturers have evolved naturally and developed products "in a more solid way," the Apple boss has taken a different strategy, looking for a "revolution." But despite Apple's success, Shih believes that the PC market will eventually come out on top, as history dictates that a natural evolution builds a stronger industry backbone.

During the interview, Shih also compared Microsoft’s Windows against Apple's Macintosh OS, and then eventually into the war between VHS and Betamax. Both examples compare the open platform approach against a closed platform approach, with the latter option apparently providing a far less market share than the former open Windows platform group. He even noted the emergence of Google's open Android platform as a tool that could help isolate Apple in the future.

Towards the end of the interview, Shih spelled out a grim future for the PC market here in the States. According to the Acer founder, US-based vendors will eventually abandon the market in the long term and turn to the services industry. He even cited IBM's sale of its PC department to Lenovo, deeming it as a sign of things to come.

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mindspring 09/10/2010 1:28 AM
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elel 09/10/2010 1:30 AM
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If that's him, I think he's the one looking like a mutant :P

dogofwars 09/10/2010 1:34 AM
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Might be right but again there is too many fanboy out there that just want an Apple product.

Teen Geek 09/10/2010 1:40 AM
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I hope he's right

phych 09/10/2010 1:52 AM
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I hope he's wrong. Less competition is never good for consumers and innovation. I'd like to see Android and Linux gain more foothold in the market, but I would still like Apple to be alive and provide competition.

getreal 09/10/2010 1:56 AM
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thejerk 09/10/2010 2:00 AM
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crus_russ 09/10/2010 2:19 AM
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volt-aire 09/10/2010 2:32 AM
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Wow, racists and apple fanboys. I think he makes a good point; closed systems can't compete with open ones in the end, and a single monolithic company's supply chain can't compete with an entire industry (that is competitive within itself). Apple's marketing and presentation vaulted it back into relevance with the iPod, but unless they can keep producing products that have the same premium over competitors that are cheaper and technically superior, they won't last.

It's a shame about American computer hardware as a whole, too. It's a process that's basically already happened, though, it's just that instead of getting components produced by an American company in China you get them from a Chinese company.. in China.

Joecitizen 09/10/2010 3:07 AM
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I'm immune to this virus, I'm not an iSheep

frozenlead 09/10/2010 3:15 AM
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Quote :He noted the success of Apple's innovation and creativity through iTunes and the introduction of apps.


I believe that 'app' is short for 'application' which have been available for smartphones and all kinds of computing devices for years before the app store.

thesupermedium 09/10/2010 3:39 AM
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NeeKo 09/10/2010 3:49 AM
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Joecitizen :
I'm immune to this virus, I'm not an iSheep



Word!

kageryu 09/10/2010 3:51 AM
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crus_russ :
I used to hate apple, but now I own an iphone, ipod and macbook pro. Really you dont need windows anymore, except for Direct X based games.The reason I slowly got sucked into apple is because of their extremely high quality build and human interfaces. PCs are akin to bloatware and every app looks and behaves differently. With apple, there is 1 or 2 ways to do something and its simple, clean and fast. Sure sometimes you get stuck because there is something missing (like writing to NFS volumes), but the sheer quality and ease of use of the other 95% has totally kicked pc/microsoft in the butt.Apple has simply showed people, "there is another way, computers dont need to be complicated".With the web as the platform these days, the line between PC and Mac is blurring to really be the visual interface and support for certain programs. I am an IT professional and the reasons for needing a PC are rapidly dwindling (note, I run a win7 VM in the background if I need something, but its rare).



In other words, you don't need to smart enough to realize that you're paying double for the low quality hardware and you should be happy that there's an interface that even retards can use to...oh wow...I can't even completely make fun of you. That's how sad your statement makes me. This mutant virus must be eliminated!! It's a hazard to human intelligence!

matt87_50 09/10/2010 4:06 AM
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I'm sure when people get over novelty and realise they should probably actually get something done... Apple will subside.

Apple is basically tech junk food. (irony)

jimmysmitty 09/10/2010 4:16 AM
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crus_russ :
I used to hate apple, but now I own an iphone, ipod and macbook pro. Really you dont need windows anymore, except for Direct X based games.The reason I slowly got sucked into apple is because of their extremely high quality build and human interfaces. PCs are akin to bloatware and every app looks and behaves differently. With apple, there is 1 or 2 ways to do something and its simple, clean and fast. Sure sometimes you get stuck because there is something missing (like writing to NFS volumes), but the sheer quality and ease of use of the other 95% has totally kicked pc/microsoft in the butt.Apple has simply showed people, "there is another way, computers dont need to be complicated".With the web as the platform these days, the line between PC and Mac is blurring to really be the visual interface and support for certain programs. I am an IT professional and the reasons for needing a PC are rapidly dwindling (note, I run a win7 VM in the background if I need something, but its rare).



Yea its also called complete and total control. I can't buy Apple due to the fact that they want to tell you what hardware you can or cannot run and what programs you can or cannot run.

Add to that a lovely service called Bonjour that every program installs on PCs to open ports allowing other programs like trojans and viruses to get in it makes me sick to think of Apple.

If Apple ever gets big enough (they are close) it will be like shooting fish in a barrel for viruses. Considering that Ping started with no scam or spam protection and was filled with it, that should show anyone what Apple thinks. They think they are invulnerable.

Then there is the way Steve Jobs basically told customers that they were using a device wrong when it had a obvious hardware flaw. Last time I checked, unless they are die hard fanboys the customer is always right. They should recall all the iPhone 4s and fix the hardware issue.

Bleh. Apple is just bad. People can dance around all they want but Apple is not a people company. They are a "fill my pockets" company.

yyk71200 09/10/2010 4:54 AM
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Because of fanboism, Apple can get away with profit with such devices as IPad. There are two things that are truly superior about Apple: their marketing (makes you realy think that you cannot live without their products, creates fan-boys, etc.) and the battery live of their MacBooks. Other than that, I am not impressed.

Trashit 09/10/2010 5:07 AM
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getreal :
Typical comment from those who are jealous of Apple's success. It's tough being number 1; Apple has a giant target on its back.


Yep you sure know your stuff, cos number 1 companies are often found at the bottom of market share charts....(hope you were being sarcastic)
http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-200909-201008

No this is just another case of the idiots making more noise than those with common sense who simple ignore Apple and their flock of sheeple.

nightcrawl3r 09/10/2010 5:12 AM
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delta7 09/10/2010 5:15 AM
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thesupermedium :
This coming from a man who made the company that sells cheap stuff quickly and promptly dies with no support. Sounds like a virus to me.




Acer has improved their build quality immensely, I bought an acer laptop from them two years and returned it in a week. This year when I was looking for an ultra light notebook I took a chance on them again and I am glad I did. And he's right apple is an anomaly that rides more on form than function, and things will change for them eventually.

matt87_50 09/10/2010 5:33 AM
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crus_russ :
I used to hate apple, but now I own an iphone, ipod and macbook pro. Really you dont need windows anymore, except for Direct X based games.The reason I slowly got sucked into apple is because of their extremely high quality build and human interfaces. PCs are akin to bloatware and every app looks and behaves differently. With apple, there is 1 or 2 ways to do something and its simple, clean and fast. Sure sometimes you get stuck because there is something missing (like writing to NFS volumes), but the sheer quality and ease of use of the other 95% has totally kicked pc/microsoft in the butt.Apple has simply showed people, "there is another way, computers dont need to be complicated".With the web as the platform these days, the line between PC and Mac is blurring to really be the visual interface and support for certain programs. I am an IT professional and the reasons for needing a PC are rapidly dwindling (note, I run a win7 VM in the background if I need something, but its rare).



hmm, interesting, and you no what? I use windows 7, and I DON'T run Mac OSX in the background because I have absolutely NO need to.


braneman 09/10/2010 5:37 AM
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Apple is about usability over functionality ,price and lack of programs, Linux is about open source but is hard to use relatively speaking, too many acronymed programs(GTK+, GREP, GRUB, etc..). Windows seems to be about in the middle.

shin0bi272 09/10/2010 6:10 AM
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You guys want a cheap apple product that's more reliable and faster? buy a dell (laptop or desktop doesnt matter) and put debian linux* on it. Done.


*Apple's OS is a hacked version of debian linux as of OSX.

iam2thecrowe 09/10/2010 6:20 AM
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Im not backing up Apple, but anyone who has had dealings with Acer on a larger scale than just a few PC's/laptops would back me up in saying their products overall are cheap crap. They use poor quality components which is the reason they can undercut other manufacturers for price for the same tech. Dealing with them to try to get any warranty support is just as bad. This guy is a hypocrite, acer are somewhat of a virus also.

palladin9479 09/10/2010 6:27 AM
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It all boils down to open platform (not open source) vs closed platform. How difficult is it for a developer to create a program on a platform and how many restrictions does that developer have. Developers hate restrictions, the more your have the less software gets made. For awhile the iPhone was the only real game in town as a target for mobile application development (Blackberry is a business orientated format and not really casual). Now we have industry as a whole moving to Android, in the next few years it'll be iPhone vs Everyone else, and its not hard to see how that one ends.

On the same note you have Windows, Linux and MacOS all competing for market share. All of those are on Personal Computers so shut your holes about the Mac vs PeeCee crap. Windows is an open platform, application developers are free to make whatever they want whenever they want and sell it however they want. HW manufactures are also free to create and market their products directly to consumers. The only things MS controls are the OS level API's and standards, namely DirectX and the windows kernel. With this single standard people can all make their products work together. This is probably the #1 reason MS Windows is in the position its in, open platform combined with backwards compatibility.

Then you have Linux which is an extremely open platform, also an open operating system where any component can be rewritten to accommodate anyone. Anyone anywhere can develop anything and it'll run, on the development machine at least. The problem here is there is no single entity controlling the standards, instead you get too many standards and developers are forced to choose one (and miss market share) or write large amounts of code for different standards. Too many different distributions have different configuration methods, different service control methods, different binary locations, and different philosophy's. Many applications that are developed here end up being ported to the Windows world where they share a greater market presence. Hopefully in the next decade or so the Linux community will solidify behind a handful of protocols, APIs and standards and then development can really kick off.

MacOS, where do I start on this one. Its a very closed platform with each of its components controlled by the manufacturer. Right down to the HW it allows you to use. That is correct, your OS is dictating to you, at the behest of a company what HW you are allowed to use. If you desire to use a piece of HW not marketed and approved by Apple, your hosed. To develop an application for MacOS requires the developer jump through hoops and sign onto the Apple way of business. Now because a single entity controls all the standards and the HW those standards run on the system as a whole works very well. Its efficient and streamlined. Its also prohibitively expensive due to lack of competition. And if what you want is not within Apples idea of what you should use, your just screwed with little to no recourse. You can't just acquire a new HW and put MacOS onto it, you must purchase a ~special~ Apple approved system which is sold at a significant mark up.

All in all it obvious which direction the worlds going in. Windows will dominate the consumer market due to application base, with Linux slowly gaining more ground but always being a niche system until someone solidifys it. And MacOS will always be for those same people who enjoy over priced name brand clothing, for its label value.

enforcer22 09/10/2010 8:05 AM
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getreal :
Typical comment from those who are jealous of Apple's success. It's tough being number 1; Apple has a giant target on its back.




I guess when they ever reach #1 or if ever.. they will know if its tough or not. in anycase apple isnt really compatition. They are so close minded they try to keep any compatition out of thier platform as possible. Sure they are compeating with other computer makers mp3 makers and so fourth i suppose but software is all apple. Im in all honestly still trying to figure out why most of the people who buy apple products actualy do it. Everywhere else i look they are imo better cheaper and not as ugly.

iamtheking123 09/10/2010 8:29 AM
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I'll keep it brief:

I think Acer makes cheapo products with no care for build quality. Ever held one of their laptops? Flimsy as a wet noodle. Ever put two brand new identical monitors side by side? Don't even color match.

And I'm sorry Acer but didn't you just fall behind Dell?

Point 2..Apple. The reason why Apple will fail is because they rely on an inbred market share. I'm not speaking literally, but the snobbishness of the people who buy the products and the arrogance of the people who make them completely precludes a huge potential audience. Instead of trying to advertise "you're a really hip abercrombie douche if you have an iphone with an ipod with a macbook pro" they should try and appeal to a mainstream, intelligent PC user. Right now they can't get any more market share because the only people who buy their products are the people who bought previous generations and the like.

Do I like Windows? Not particularly....it bogs down way too easily and constantly has you thinking in the back of your head that there's a cleaner way of doing everything. Do I like Linux? The problem is it's a black box operating system. Yes, technically there's no lock on the box but it's an absolute nightmare to deal with any sort of problems or customizations. And I don't like the fact there's no such thing as an exe...just double click and you're off...I don't want to have to build from source code or go to an arbitrary repo.

BUT I will never own a Macbook...ever. I have no interest in even trying one...or any other product that starts with 'i'. Good job Apple PR. I do use an ipod nano though...that I found on the street and was too lazy to resell on ebay....I really do prefer my Insignia though.

V8VENOM 09/10/2010 9:10 AM
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Diabolical User 09/10/2010 9:47 AM
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getreal :
Typical comment from those who are jealous of Apple's success. It's tough being number 1; Apple has a giant target on its back.



If what you say is really true (sarcasm), it might be in Steve Job's best interest to stay away from the "mindless rabid fan boys" that tend to plague online forums/news with that kind of mindset (e.g. Apple is number 1). Especially, since you don't have any logic backing your claim of how "Apple is number 1". Ultimately, if Apple omitted the Apple Tax; ergo lowering pricing on their products. Apple worshipers would think: Lower price = Inferior Product. If this fact were to be revealed and VALIDATED by Apple worshipers; imagine the implausible consternation they would have. Many of them may even commit suicide...

Anyway, don't look too deep into this. It is not my intention to cause a massive epidemic of suicides, homicides, rioting etc.

Maxor127 09/10/2010 9:50 AM
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