Toshiba Tests Super High Density 2.5Tb Tech
Nearly five times over what we have now.
Are we all about the SSDs these days? From a performance standpoint, yes, but for mass storage needs, it's tough to beat the magnets.
Toshiba is devoting time into the old hard disk realm and have come up with a way to fit lots more data on a given space. The company claims to have successfully produced a hard disk where the magnetic bits are organized in rows; this is called bit-patterned media.
With its bit-patterned prototype, Toshiba said that it has achieved a density of 2.5 terabits per square inch. This is way ahead of what's available on current drives, which top out at 541 gigabits per square inch.
It'll be a while before we see drives based on this technology, however, as Toshiba doesn't see these hitting the market before 2013, according to IDG.
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Is the 2013 timeframe due to R&D and Manufacturing or due to marketing like with the CDROM speeds back in the day?
^ Probably R&D. I would think it would market itself. That is a lot of storage. By 2013, SSD prices will have dropped but I don't think they will have the same capacity (at a competitive price) as the good ole HDD. For mass/cheap storage, HDDs are going to be around for some time to come.
By 2013 SSDs should have an adequate amount of storage. At least enough for the enthusiasts. Still, 2.5TB per square inch is amazing. I can just use that as a cheap archive drive.
By 2013, I'd be curious to see if 2.5tb is still as impressive as it sounds at this moment.
They arnt talking about a 2.5tb drive, they are talking about per in(2).
equivalent to around a 10tb drive on 3 platers. And 10tb is alot of disc space.
By 2013, I'd be curious to see if 2.5tb is still as impressive as it sounds at this moment.
This could mean drives as big as 10TB though!
Good. but SSD's are future for us gamers.
Considering they squeezed in almost 5 times the density on the same size its not hard to imagine they would manage a 10-15TB 3 1/4 drives if they cant push the denisty even higher in the same size as todays regular drives.
SSD definatly have the speed but the HDD's still stand for the bulk storage and im quite sure SSD prices will still be to high for consumers to have the bulkstorage based on the tech, i predict most computers will have a SDD for system disk and a HDD for bulk storage.
Keep in mind that there are more benefits to higher platter density. It can also mean faster access and transfer speeds. Anyone who uses a NAS for their storage needs with multiple users will be very excited bout this tech
Reliability? Heat?
Sweet just what I need. I am always in the need for more storage since I can grab around 2-3gb of new data a day from places like youtube ect. The worst case is around 60-100gb (fraps) a day. I did a walkthrough and it generated a Lot of footage.
Hopefully the increased density will translate into greatly increased performance as well.
It seems like this will make RAID setups a lot more common for home users. Even with 2TB drives its still pretty expensive to run a decent sized RAID 5 array.
too bad the world won't be here when it comes out
Is the 2013 timeframe due to R&D and Manufacturing or due to marketing like with the CDROM speeds back in the day?
My guess it has to do with reliability testing of R+D samples followed by scale up then reliability/quality testing of the mass manufactured samples.
Good. but SSD's are future for us gamers.
And us people trying to get a lot of work done on our computers.
I hope they legalize piracy by 2013 because otherwise over 80% of most of everyone's hard drive will just remain empty. Kidding aside, I really don't see a reason to have hard drives this big on a personal computer. Servers, yes. How many full-length Blu-Ray movies could you fit in 10 TB, anyway?
too bad the world won't be here when it comes out
LOL!
maybe lower storage SSDs will be cheap by then
I hope they legalize piracy by 2013 because otherwise over 80% of most of everyone's hard drive will just remain empty. Kidding aside, I really don't see a reason to have hard drives this big on a personal computer. Servers, yes. How many full-length Blu-Ray movies could you fit in 10 TB, anyway?
About 600 to 1200 or so x264 (1080p) encodes averaging 8gb to 16gb each respectively. I wouldn't mind a drive of that size, but would have to be able to have a comparable backup system in place for it, lol. I can see this as not being a cost effective solution initially, though enthusiasts and others with deep pockets will be happy to pick up a drive or two of that size. Just imagine, one day a 10TB drive of some sort will be standard in all soon to be modern desktop pc's with 5 TB in laptops, lol. :-)
About 600 to 1200 or so x264 (1080p) encodes averaging 8gb to 16gb each respectively. I wouldn't mind a drive of that size, but would have to be able to have a comparable backup system in place for it, lol. I can see this as not being a cost effective solution initially, though enthusiasts and others with deep pockets will be happy to pick up a drive or two of that size. Just imagine, one day a 10TB drive of some sort will be standard in all soon to be modern desktop pc's with 5 TB in laptops, lol. :-)
Typo in my post. For 8gb releases, that would add up to about 1200 and for 16gb releases, that would add up to about 600 or so.
About 600 to 1200 or so x264 (1080p) encodes averaging 8gb to 16gb each respectively. I wouldn't mind a drive of that size, but would have to be able to have a comparable backup system in place for it, lol. I can see this as not being a cost effective solution initially, though enthusiasts and others with deep pockets will be happy to pick up a drive or two of that size. Just imagine, one day a 10TB drive of some sort will be standard in all soon to be modern desktop pc's with 5 TB in laptops, lol. :-)
It would be nice to have that 10TB. I currently have about 1500 movies on a 2TB drive that are downsized to around 700MB-1400MB each. Being able to store higher quality rips would be nice.
10 TB = about 400 25GB Blu-Ray rips.
Or legally speaking, lots of HD family videos and photos. Family media storage seems to be growing exponentially with HD video.
2.5 TB per square inch! wow that's a lot of data to lose!
I hope they legalize piracy by 2013 because otherwise over 80% of most of everyone's hard drive will just remain empty. Kidding aside, I really don't see a reason to have hard drives this big on a personal computer. Servers, yes. How many full-length Blu-Ray movies could you fit in 10 TB, anyway?
Increased track density will increase performance. Who cares if you are going to use the space. Upgrade to a 10TB drive and get something above 250MB/s sequential read/write speed on the outer edge of the platter.
Family media storage seems to be growing exponentially with HD video.
Yeah I bought a full HD video camera in March this year and I already have 200gb of my toddler learning to walk, etc. And that's not even using it very much.
With data density like this I don't know if ssd's will ever topple the mechanical drives for mass storage... and really for storage I'm more about the price point then the speed.
With data density like this I don't know if ssd's will ever topple the mechanical drives for mass storage... and really for storage I'm more about the price point then the speed.
Just make sure you keep a fork on hand to eat those words.
This technology is 2 generations forward for perhaps 10TB drives and beyond. Shingled magnetic recording (SMR) drives will be the near future and deliver drives below this capacity piont; more than 2TB of today and reaching towards 10TB or so at which time patterned media may carry the torch which has headroom to deliver up to 100TB drives.
It's deja vu all over to see some people think that todays drives are big enough. I remember when people said the same thing about the 10MB drives, the 200MB drives, and so on and so forth. Drives have gotten a million times larger in a very short time and some people still can't see past the tip of their nose. I can also remember when people said with the advent of the 1GB drives that that was too much data to lose LOL.
Forget the SSD marketing fluff and read the article. This is how your data will be stored in the future.
Hum,

Take than Toshiba :
http://j.imagehost.org/view/0042/Fast_Hard_Drive
yeah this is what we need.