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QOTD: Do You Want Nvidia to Make CPUs?

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1:41 PM - March 26, 2009 by Tuan Nguyen

Things in life change, and so do things in the IT industry. The previous three or four years around the early 2000's, was somewhat slow in growth. But in the last two years, things have really picked up again.

This leads us to CPUs. Even in the CPU landscape, things are rapidly changing. Architectures are getting increasingly more efficient, clock for clock. But CPUs themselves aside, even manufacturers are changing. Just this year, AMD decided to spin-off its manufacturing arms into what's now known as Globalfoundries.

However, there's one quaint company, called Nvidia, that's been promoting how powerful its GPUs are for more than just graphics. But don't think of Nvidia's products as the traditional GPU anymore like they once were. With such things as CUDA, Nvidia represents a very powerful option for the future. Although Nvidia has denied much about creating a full-fledged CPU, I can tell you now that it's very possible. That said:

The question of the day is: Do you want Nvidia to make CPUs to compete with Intel and AMD?

There's no doubt, that this is a very hot topic.

Source : Tom's Hardware US

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ZeroTech 03/26/2009 7:59 PM
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YES, competition is great for consumers.

cruiseoveride 03/26/2009 8:00 PM
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YES

No Intel monopolies please.

A Stoner 03/26/2009 8:01 PM
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Sweet if they do. I just hope that does not cause Intel to decide to crush them out of existance.

xyzionz 03/26/2009 8:04 PM
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Competition leads to technology advancement and innovation , why not ?
GOOOOO nVidia

deltatux 03/26/2009 8:04 PM
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Yes, the more competition the merrier for the industry and for consumers. In the end, we win!

NuclearShadow 03/26/2009 8:05 PM
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I think it would be good if they did. Sure their CPU's at first may not be amazing but if they offered them at a lower price and if they could make them the best bang for the buck then they could end up being a popular choice. This would also be great for us as the prices would lower and more selection is always a good thing.

scarpa 03/26/2009 8:05 PM
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Of course, the more companies the better, competition is the best for everybody.

zipzoomflyhigh 03/26/2009 8:05 PM
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smartel7070 03/26/2009 8:08 PM
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Like most posters said competition is great for the consumers so why not !

spanspace 03/26/2009 8:10 PM
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I smell an ATI FanBoy. I am pretty sure Nvidia compete enough to stay alive in the CPU game.

KyleSTL 03/26/2009 8:11 PM
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I like how nVidia went from being the bad guy for their failing bumps (Geforce 8600 products) and unethical naming schemes (8800/9800/240, among others), to the good guy because they'll challenge Intel. I still think they're a borderline unethical company lead by a clinical psycho with a big mouth. That being said, competition is always a good thing, so long as Intel and the courts allow them to enter the competition.

Anonymous 03/26/2009 8:12 PM
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Is the Intel (x86/64) so embedded that a New Type of processor, probably more effecient with a whole new instruction set, that Intel can't be controller of come along? Or is it like Windows, and just have to live with it? Or is the x86/64 the most effiencent we can have?

If nVidia is looking to just copy the x86/64's don't think I would really care one way or the other.

matthelm 03/26/2009 8:13 PM
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captaincharisma 03/26/2009 8:13 PM
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HermDawg 03/26/2009 8:14 PM
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Yes, why not? And I hope Nvidia does well at it just to show Intel what's up. I think Nvidia making CPUs will help introduce innovation industry wide especially in the category the Atom processors are in just like AMD's 64 bit processors did with mainstream processors.

A Stoner 03/26/2009 8:16 PM
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Compition is great, but the final straw that will determine if nVidia is successful is going to be the people it hires and places in charge of executing the business plan. That along with whether Intel decides it has had enough of nVidia the puny and uses it's new GPU to crush nVidia on the GPU side of things. It has potential to do this, if it's GPU is really as powerfull as everyone thinks it is going to be. I do not think that nVidia could compete if it does not have a strong GPU position to absorb the initial loses required to do all the Research and Developement of making a competitive product as well as the initial low prices that will likely be required to obtain some market share, and more importantly, along with that market share, respect.

jstrode 03/26/2009 8:17 PM
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I work at Intel, I want to make that clear. 1. Everyone wants a company to grow, to expand, and to make shareholders rich. When they get too big, everyone jumps on the wagon insisting they are too big. Microsoft is being investigated because they include Internet exploder as an integral part of their OS. No one complains when MAC does this with Safari, or Opera, because they are not large enough to pose a threat. Intel is being investigated by EU, and the New York attorney generals office about price fixing and paying resellers when they sell more Intel CPU's than AMD. (I actually think that is good business) - the New York case is significent, because guess what, that is where AMD has a fab, and New York granted numerous incentives for AMD to come there. New York loses if Intel continues to grow market share over AMD, as AMD has less money for taxes. This is all about money. Yes, I do think Nvidia should enter the market, not for competition, or because they have a better product, but because their entry will push intel to create better, faster, and more watt / cost effective CPU's, which is a good think. NOT because Intel is a monopoly.

theuerkorn 03/26/2009 8:17 PM
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Sure, why not. However, if nVidia basically produces me-too cpus with minor distinction, it may be too much of a distraction for nVidia with too little return. On the other hand, if they go radically different, needed software support might be the "Achilles heel".

FrozenGpu 03/26/2009 8:21 PM
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I only want Nvidia CPU's if they are rebadged G92 cores.

falchard 03/26/2009 8:25 PM
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If they enter the CPU market, I would imagine they would need to partner with another company like VIA, SUN, IBM, or AMD to get the initial groundwork and the patents to make a processor usable on most consumer machines.

captaincharisma 03/26/2009 8:25 PM
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NVidia can have an advantage with CPU's. just use one of there GPU's and slap some x86 and AMD64 instruction sets in there and sell it as a gaming CPU

gsacks 03/26/2009 8:27 PM
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Yes. Yay, competition. Boo, monopoly.

keczapifrytki 03/26/2009 8:29 PM
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YES!!!!!
Oh my god this would be so great. More competition, more choices, better technology, and better prices. Besides, the compatibility between the Nvidia CPU and GPU would be flawless.

ehenry818 03/26/2009 8:30 PM
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mpasternak 03/26/2009 8:36 PM
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Absolutely! As said, More competition is better

however, Nvidia if going CPU route already has practice in combination of CPU and GPU power working in unison to enhance computation power.

If Nvidia goes the route of creating their own CPU, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that they'd combine the thoeries behind CUDA computing within their CPU. Imagine a Quadcore CPU that also has it's own GPU like processing onchip?

Would take computing to the next levels. AMD(ATI) are also well situated for this as the combined company can bring both to the table as well.

I'm more interested to see what Intell will do to compete with such combination of technologies.

kansur0 03/26/2009 8:40 PM
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I think this is why nVidia wants to buy VIA...so they can have an X86 license? Regardless...I think eventually the "central processing unit" will do everything all on one chip. They are already including memory controllers on the CPU die...why not integrate the graphics chip as well (AMD Bulldozer?) So...if it is all running off of one chip eventually all they have to do use a language (OpenCL) that can be the bridge to the OS. After that it doesn't matter what company makes what chip...smaller...faster...more cores...more cache.

Yes nVidia. Make your chip. Keep Intel honest!!!

captaincharisma 03/26/2009 8:43 PM
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tipoo 03/26/2009 8:44 PM
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Sure, why not. My guess would be that the first Nvidia CPU's (well, the first desktop/laptop ones, since they already made one for mobile) would be Via-ish, not competing on the high-end at all. and what of the x86 problem?

jfplopes 03/26/2009 8:53 PM
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They will do CPUs. They don't have much of a choice. The picture isn't really the home PC or console. The future will probably be cloud computing. The companies that can survive are those able to create integrated system to power the future super computers. This companies will provide the services needed for you to game remotely using they're service oriented systems. AMD is the first to have made the announcement that they're building a super computer powered by they're hybrid cpus/gpus to create a system capable of streaming games to any device. When this becomes the norm NVIDIA won't have a business anymore as INTEL and ATI can build they're own supercomputers and provide gaming as service. Consumers will switch to this systems once they realize they don't need to pay for high end hardware anymore to get the best possible quality in games. AMD and INTEL will remain happy as they'll be able to get to any device and grab a bigger consumer base. They're cloud computing arquitecture will scale the costs down and provide with increased revenues through other services. Not only that, they will also have a steady influx of cash through they're subscribe based services. But for this to happen broadband needs to get even faster than what we have today. But it will happen. Actually it is starting now with systems like Onlive. But at least for the next 5 years will remain in the same type of architecture. Console hardware and pc hardware will remain a requirement for gaming. But they'll both use hybrid cpu/gpu processors thus providing the best of both multi-purpose and parallel based processing. IF NVIDIA doesn't get in this wagon it will loose the race.

nukem950 03/26/2009 8:54 PM
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I think it would be good for the market to have a third competitor that made fast CPUs. That and the hybrid CPU/GPU combos would be awesome!

Soul_keeper 03/26/2009 9:09 PM
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I remember wanting to see them purchase transmeta before it excited the scene.
Now I think purchasing VIA could be a wise move.
They could grab a foothold in the low power scene, and use their muscle to fix via's time to market issues.


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