Windows 8 to Have 3 Rs: Recovery, Reset, Restore
Recovery, Reset, Restore all to fight the Rot.
We all know about "Windows rot," where the operating system slowly degenerates to a slow, sluggish state after numerous installs, uninstalls, and other things that a system accumulates over time.
Those of us who perform good housekeeping practices on our computers keep our Windows installs running better, longer, but that's not the case for everyone. The action of a fresh format and/or reinstall can make things feel new again, even on old hardware. And now it seems that Microsoft could be building a reinstall feature into Windows 8.
As seen in some of the leaked presentation slides, Microsoft could have a recovery option to "reset Windows" while retaining all personal files and user accounts. One of the presentation images shows the option of reinstalling all of the app purchases from the Microsoft App Store. Interesting stuff.
(source: MSFTKitchen)
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Interesting, liking the Windows 8 news, Marcus. Seeing "keep my stuff" makes me laugh. I'm sure that'll be a bit more professional once it comes out.
I would LOVE this feature for Windows 8, but I wonder if it will reinstall software not from the MS App Store. If it doesn't, it's pretty useless to me... I don't have anything from the App Store yet!
This might be a really compelling feature. I'm looking forward to it.
Great more problems and three times the disk space consumption. God forbid one has no choice but to buy a 1 or 2TB drive just for endless restore points x.x
Every week when I do a clean up I free up 60gb or more every time.
Ahhh M$. Still chasing that elusive cure for crappy-ness
Why don't they figure out how to make their OS not crash and burn in the first place, then they won't need bandaids like that.
Ahhh M$. Still chasing that elusive cure for crappy-nessWhy don't they figure out how to make their OS not crash and burn in the first place, then they won't need bandaids like that.
Ya know you are being quit unreal there.
Acronis True Image is better choice. You can backup your fresh system disk before and after all programs are installed.
Then, you can reinstall an image within 30 minutes.
Ahhh M$. Still chasing that elusive cure for crappy-nessWhy don't they figure out how to make their OS not crash and burn in the first place, then they won't need bandaids like that.
Hating on Microsoft is so 2001.
i just hope this feature really got into the final release version of Windows 8.
Hating on Microsoft is so 2001.
So True compadre
Great more problems and three times the disk space consumption. God forbid one has no choice but to buy a 1 or 2TB drive just for endless restore points x.x Every week when I do a clean up I free up 60gb or more every time.
60 gig a week? what are you doing with that computer?.
Anyway i think this is a nice feature as long as it actually does a full and proper reinstall. I have a feeling that it won't be though and most of us will just pop in the disk every 6 months or so
A computer is like a coffee machine... once in a while you need to purge it from it's deposit...
But, Crosoft dit a good job...
XP=every 6 months
VISTA=every year
SEVEN=... I have it for more than a year and it's still running great
This is great ideal on MS part. They have something similar in Office for a long time, but it is hidden. I've needed to use it a couple of times to get a users computer back to where it needed to be. We have had reset switches to reboot computers as far as I can really remember. Hopefully 8 will be great and miss the every other copy of Windows is horrible jinx.
expecting 8 to be slow as vista and 9 as the speed boost
i would like this feature but i would want a clean install. would they take all my stuff and send it to the cloud? Would they delete all the programs and just let me download from their app store again. maybe give me the updated version to replace my old software to make it easy on them selves. ? makes you wonder what they plan to do. Well they have the software you could have option to update or download what you already own. you could have this new software for additional 50$ if you would like to upgrade.
Not useless but there's always better software to run it, more tweaky.
My windows 7 already feels obsolete
"Windows rot". So there's actually a technical term for Microsoft's in-built **** quality? I use Linux and OSX because they don't "rot". They run just as good 3 years later as they do on day one. No sluggishness, no slow death, no hard drive grinding away wondering WTF is it doing. Not a fanboy, or even loyal to any brands; I'm just an "Anything but Microsoft" fan - because I like to use my computers to DO work - not spend all my time trying to make them work.
@wotan31: Have you even tried Win7?
I'm happy it works for you but ALL my softwares and games like Windows7.
Is that an app store I see? Oh my... is this the end of running my own programmes on windows?
"Windows rot". So there's actually a technical term for Microsoft's in-built shit quality? I use Linux and OSX because they don't "rot". They run just as good 3 years later as they do on day one. No sluggishness, no slow death, no hard drive grinding away wondering WTF is it doing. Not a fanboy, or even loyal to any brands; I'm just an "Anything but Microsoft" fan - because I like to use my computers to DO work - not spend all my time trying to make them work.
That's crap, just like anything, all operating systems need maintenance and care, even OSX, my mothers husband has OSX and he experiences degradation over time, even the Linux kernel gets clogged up at times and needs a successful reboot in order to clear it.
The question remains, would you rather have a windows OS that can do anything but you have to maintain it more or linux/OSX that can do only a small %-age of what windows can do but requires less maintenance?
Do you see the pattern? the OS that does more needs to be maintained more, its all relative people...
it will never be like a good bios formating, is the disk formatting and the new alocation and defragment what make a fresh os install faster and lighter.
Have not reinstalled windows xp in about 6 years (since I stuck with similar chipsets when upgrading, I was able to avoid having to reinstall. and since I keep the startup clean.
the main thing that slows windows down is the random startup items, services, and other items that load during the boot process (windows loading screen.)
If you keep these sections of the OS clean, and also disable some of the crap that comes with windows. Windows will run just as fast or faster than a fresh install.
All you have to do is take an active part in keeping what the OS loads, clean and this will keep everything running fast.
Microsoft can easily keep the installs for most users, even people new to using windows, clean. Just get them used to the inner workings of the registry, get them used to knowing what is loaded during the startup (including the preboot stages) Have them know about what each windows service does so they can disable the ones they don't need, and have them know about which drivers are needed to be loaded during the startup.
We should start "leaking" things we'd like to see in Win8
Have not reinstalled windows xp in about 6 years (since I stuck with similar chipsets when upgrading, I was able to avoid having to reinstall. and since I keep the startup clean.the main thing that slows windows down is the random startup items, services, and other items that load during the boot process (windows loading screen.)If you keep these sections of the OS clean, and also disable some of the crap that comes with windows. Windows will run just as fast or faster than a fresh install.All you have to do is take an active part in keeping what the OS loads, clean and this will keep everything running fast.
that sounds like a excuse for Microsoft to not have it running faster. i would like to have all those services and not feel i need to disable them because windows is slow. I already have defrag my computer us and cleaned it many times in a year. I still see it as slow with all the keep up which windows need to work on so i dont. i dont want to keep tweaking windows so it runs fast it just should. Yes some people have old machines and slow hardware but for today's cpu it pretty fast already. i feel we are moving slow with technology i still cant believe I have to still wait for things to load. They know the user has accepted the waiting time for software as everyday life and wont put more effort into it. i have 8 core cpu but it runs at 20% and still i have to wait. i want some innovation, revolution to start happening. okay all stop writing now
A reinstall feature that won't cost the owner anything?
Are you sure we are talking about Microsoft?
That's crap, just like anything, all operating systems need maintenance and care, even OSX, my mothers husband has OSX and he experiences degradation over time, even the Linux kernel gets clogged up at times and needs a successful reboot in order to clear it.The question remains, would you rather have a windows OS that can do anything but you have to maintain it more or linux/OSX that can do only a small %-age of what windows can do but requires less maintenance?Do you see the pattern? the OS that does more needs to be maintained more, its all relative people...
Surely you are joking. Linux and OSX can do far more than Windows can even dream of. Windows is for Word and Excel. It's for clerical business people and secretaries. UNIX is where the real computing gets done. It's the platform of Hollywood movie editing and post-production effects. It's the platform of CAD and Engineering work. It's the platform of Microprocessor design. It's the platform of chemical and pharmaceutical engineering and simulations, weather prediction, nuclear research, etc. etc. What does Windows do? Office and some games that kids play. As for reboots, we have linux servers at work that haven't been rebooted since 2008. We have HP-UX and AIX servers that haven't been rebooted since 2005. Sorry, you lose.
Surely you are joking. Linux and OSX can do far more than Windows can even dream of. Windows is for Word and Excel. It's for clerical business people and secretaries. UNIX is where the real computing gets done. It's the platform of Hollywood movie editing and post-production effects. It's the platform of CAD and Engineering work. It's the platform of Microprocessor design. It's the platform of chemical and pharmaceutical engineering and simulations, weather prediction, nuclear research, etc. etc. What does Windows do? Office and some games that kids play. As for reboots, we have linux servers at work that haven't been rebooted since 2008. We have HP-UX and AIX servers that haven't been rebooted since 2005. Sorry, you lose.
Sorry to disappoint, but almost all CAD and engineering work is done on Windows. I don't know about the other stuff, but I can tell you from personal experience that most engineering occurs on Windows.
As someone that wants to be formatting and reinstalling windows every other week all i gotta say is I LOVE U MS!!! Shit I was happy with Win 7 and now i have to wait for 8..? -.- They should have kept quiet for a while longer damn it.
yes, CAD is windows only, I've had to use it in several classes and there are ALWAYS mac and linux guys in there griping about how they have to "pollute" thier machines or get a different computer even though it was in the class requirments a windows based computer windows xp or greater and lowish system specs
Surely you are joking. Linux and OSX can do far more than Windows can even dream of. Windows is for Word and Excel. It's for clerical business people and secretaries. UNIX is where the real computing gets done. It's the platform of Hollywood movie editing and post-production effects. It's the platform of CAD and Engineering work. It's the platform of Microprocessor design. It's the platform of chemical and pharmaceutical engineering and simulations, weather prediction, nuclear research, etc. etc. What does Windows do? Office and some games that kids play. As for reboots, we have linux servers at work that haven't been rebooted since 2008. We have HP-UX and AIX servers that haven't been rebooted since 2005. Sorry, you lose.
delusions of grandeur anyone?
i hate to burst your bubble, but most of the work in the world happens in word and excel, etc.
high tech applications working mission specific operations run custom kernels to reduce failure or to increase efficiency. you can modify the open-source linux kernel without licensing issues, and without the expense of writing an os from scratch. that's why supercomputers run custom kernel linux/unix or a bespoke os.