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Microsoft Reportedly Urging Samsung, Huawei to Put Windows on Android Devices

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Microsoft may be handing out Windows Phone and Windows RT free to Android device makers for a dual-boot scenario.

Last week Bloomberg reported that Terry Myerson, the head of Microsoft's operating systems unit, approached HTC about providing Windows Phone as a secondary operating system on Android phones at little or no cost to the device maker. Sources claimed that the talks were preliminary, and that no final decisions have been made.

Sources also claimed that HTC currently has no plans to make stand-alone Windows-based phones. The company was the first to separately produce both Android and Windows-based handsets, but hasn't launched a new Windows phone since June. Allowing HTC to provide Windows Phone as a second OS for free may not only rekindle the company's interest in the platform, but provide Microsoft an even larger audience.

Bloomberg's sources indicated that the technical details about adding Windows Phone as a second OS have yet to be ironed out. The sources were also unclear about whether the resulting HTC phone would run Windows and Android at the same time, or let users choose a platform by default. Myserson is reportedly planning to visit HTC's headquarters in Taoyuan, Taiwan this month to discuss his Windows Phone proposal.

Meanwhile, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer and other executives reportedly met with handset makers during a trip to Beijing at the end of September. Sources claimed the company is pushing to keep strong relationships with handset makers despite its upcoming purchase of Nokia's devices and services division, and expects to win over those who previously focused on Android.

Now Russian journalist Eldar Murtazin claims that Microsoft has also approached Samsung and Huawei, and that Samsung is getting ready to release a new Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 2014 Edition that dual-boots Android and Windows RT, similar to the way the ATIV Q is set up. Samsung is reportedly considering a dual-boot smartphone as well, but hasn't made a final decision.

The report claims that Microsoft is offering Windows Phone for smartphones and Windows RT for tablets, both for free plus compensation for necessary adaption costs. Thus the Redmond company, at least in the case of ARM-based form factors, would be taking the Google route by offering its platform for free in exchange for platform exposure, possible ad sales and digital content sales.

Thus in a sense, Microsoft would gain a substantially larger market share simply by piggy-backing Android devices. Android dominated the smartphone operating system market in the second quarter with a 79 percent claim, followed by Apple with 13 percent and Microsoft with 3.7 percent. Samsung was the top Android device seller during that quarter, whereas HTC was ranked at #8.

Last month Samsung confirmed that its ATIV Q hybrid sporting both Android and Windows 8 Pro would not launch until 2014. Previous issues with patents led to speculation that the device was discontinued altogether. The tablet supposedly features an Intel Core i5 processor, 4 GB of RAM, 128 GB of internal storage, and a 13.3 inch screen with a 3200 x 1800 resolution.

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    dgingeri , October 9, 2013 11:46 AM
    "The sources were also unclear about whether the resulting HTC phone would run Windows and Android at the same time, or let users choose a platform by default."

    It would be nice to choose a phone on the hardware merits and then choose the OS for it. I'd love to run my HTC OneS with Windows Phone 8. It's a great phone, and I'd hate to give it up, but I want a Windows phone.
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    weierstrass , October 9, 2013 11:47 AM
    How many GB of storage does Winodows need agin?
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    jwcalla , October 9, 2013 12:02 PM
    In my case I would see this as nothing more than a waste of disk space. If I'm paying for a phone I'd rather just have the 64 GB or whatever. Then you have to worry about the carriers not willing to update the OS because it's too difficult, etc.

    Why would anybody even want this?
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    jimmysmitty , October 9, 2013 12:05 PM
    A dual boot S4 would be nice. Hell I wouldn't mind a S4 with WP8 as my boss has a WP8 phone and loved how simplistic it was and I wouldn't mind jumping from Android for a bit as they keep poking more and more into what I am doing and where I am etc.
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    tekwiz00 , October 9, 2013 12:10 PM
    Windows on Android? oh no, don't want to see that happen, are you?
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    deftonian , October 9, 2013 12:13 PM
    I wouldn't mind a dual boot tablet or PC, but not particularly interested in a dual boot phone. I'm sure some people out there could benefit from this though. Heck, I'm never against having options so even if I don't need it, I guess it wouldn't be a bad thing. Just make sure you put enough memory in the phone since it will require space for 2 OS.
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    schultzter , October 9, 2013 12:22 PM
    Like weierstrass asked, how much space is the Windows OS going to eat up? And if I don't want it can I delete it?

    Besides, once I've started using one of the two what's going to happen to my data if I boot into the other?

    I don't think it's going to be like a computer where you can boot from one to the other as you please. I think it's going to be the kind of thing where you choose it once and then stick with it.
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    JD88 , October 9, 2013 12:22 PM
    I'm not sure how the OEM would benefit from this. Offering top line phones with a choice of OS is fine and a good idea. Sell the consumer whichever they prefer from the store then put the images of the alternates up so they can be flashed at any time as desired.

    However, I'm not so sure about a dual boot configuration. I'm not sure how that would ever really be useful unless you're just someone who likes to have Windows phone one day and Android the next. I highly doubt someone is just going to run Windows all the time then boot into Android when they needed some specific app. I think that would confuse the consumer. It would take up a lot of space on the device's storage as well with apps from both operating systems.

    Anyone who is itching to use Windows Phone should just try Launcher 8. Makes your android phone behave just like a Windows phone (actually better with more customization options) live tiles and all, with all of the apps of Android.
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    burmese_dude , October 9, 2013 12:33 PM
    MS wants to coattail # of Android phone sales...
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    digiex , October 9, 2013 12:33 PM
    "Intel Core i5 processor, 4 GB of RAM, 128 GB of internal storage, and a 13.3 inch screen with a 3200 x 1800 resolution."

    A tablet with this specs will be heavy as a brick. Will make owners healthy.
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    3ogdy , October 9, 2013 12:39 PM
    No, Micro[removed]. No, thank you. Keep Windows on other phones and let Android rule the mobile OS world. In the meanwhile:
    Learn to design an Operating System
    Hire some DESIGN engineers (did I mention D E S I G N?)
    We are living in 2013...which is part of the 21st century - not the '90s, mind you.
    You've been upgrading your operating systems all the way up to Windows 7...now you're going with a plain dumb interface reasoning you're all about "ease of use" when in fact your people lack TONS of creativity and inspiration.
    P.S. I used to love Microsoft. (I hate I gotta say "used to"...)

    Watch the language - G
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    JD88 , October 9, 2013 12:46 PM
    In fairness, Windows Phone 8 is a relatively well designed operating system with unique elements. My Fiance has one of the new Nokia phones and it's actually quite nice. Microsoft did well there. On the desktop? No but that's not the subject here.

    The biggest thing that turned me away from Windows phone back when I was cross shopping my S3 with a Lumina 900 was the fact that they screwed over all of the Windows Phone 7 customers by not allowing them to upgrade to Windows Phone 8 and trapping them with virtually no apps. Maybe there were technical reasons or whatever, but this left a bad taste in my mouth.
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    hannibal , October 9, 2013 1:08 PM
    WP7 was for single core phones. WP8 is/will be for dual and quadro core phones... Big differense in the hardware. It is like puttin Vista to WinME machine. You are looking for trouble...
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    g-unit1111 , October 9, 2013 1:28 PM
    Sounds like MS is taking a page from the "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" crowd.
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    Soda109 , October 9, 2013 1:32 PM
    is microsoft really getting that desperate?
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    back_by_demand , October 9, 2013 1:51 PM
    WP8 works really well, stick it on good hardware and it rocks. The Samsung Ativ S is basically the SGS3 with WP8 instead of Android and having used both I stuck with the Ativ S and it is still the best phone I ever had, the only upgrade worth having would be the Nokia 1020.
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    g-unit1111 , October 9, 2013 2:07 PM
    Quote:
    WP8 works really well, stick it on good hardware and it rocks. The Samsung Ativ S is basically the SGS3 with WP8 instead of Android and having used both I stuck with the Ativ S and it is still the best phone I ever had, the only upgrade worth having would be the Nokia 1020.


    I'm really interested in adding a line to my account and getting the ATIV S. It looks like a pretty sweet phone both hardware and software wise.
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    Deadfred , October 9, 2013 4:03 PM
    Well I suppose that's one way to scuttle the competition.
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    alextheblue , October 9, 2013 4:15 PM
    Quote:
    I'm really interested in adding a line to my account and getting the ATIV S. It looks like a pretty sweet phone both hardware and software wise.

    I was interested in Samsung's Ativ S until Verizon decided they were going to offer an inferior Samsung device instead. They went with the crappy Ativ Odyssey. For anyone on Verizon, if you want a WP8 device, you're much better off with a Lumia 928.
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    Avus , October 9, 2013 4:21 PM
    Urging is the wrong word... MS should try begging...
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