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Party's Over, Windows XP: No More on New PCs

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Time to go modern like.

Looking to buy a new PC with Windows XP? Two things:

  • Get with the times
  • It's too late

Alright, so maybe you prefer your new PCs with Windows XP – that's just a matter of personal preference, but Microsoft's mandated that new PCs from here on must be preloaded with something newer than an OS from 2001.

On the first birthday of Windows 7, PC makers are now no longer allowed to load Windows XP on new PCs – which in this case are mostly comprised of netbooks.

This does not affect the rules for Windows XP downgrade licenses, which will carry on until 2015, according to ZDnet.

Which version of Windows would you prefer to run on a netbook?

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LuckyDucky7 10/24/2010 10:37 PM
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And maybe if Windows 7 Starter wasn't so terrible (no changing the desktop wallpaper? Come on!), we'd actually want to switch.

pollom 10/24/2010 10:38 PM
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razercultmember1 10/24/2010 10:40 PM
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LONG LIVE 7

darkchazz 10/24/2010 10:42 PM
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Win 7 all the way!

liveonc 10/24/2010 10:50 PM
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ct1615 10/24/2010 10:53 PM
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XP had a hell of a run! it was still a viable OS even when Vista had all its issues and kicked apples OS butt

mitch074 10/24/2010 10:55 PM
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A free one - so that I don't have to ask for a refund on the OS when I install a Linux distro on it!

mister g 10/24/2010 11:03 PM
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In other news: illegal copies of XP suddenly rose to 90%.

cruiseoveride 10/24/2010 11:19 PM
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Haserath 10/24/2010 11:22 PM
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vittau 10/24/2010 11:23 PM
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XP is awesome, but it's about time to move on...

nforce4max 10/24/2010 11:26 PM
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victorintelr 10/24/2010 11:36 PM
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cruiseoveride :
People still use Windows?


Ups...
He's either being sarcastic,
A linux user (that's good)
Or a Steve Jobs servant/minion (screwed up)

d-block 10/24/2010 11:42 PM
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nforce4max :
That is the same for Vista. People love Win7 even though it is nothing more than Vista with a spit shine.


7 is what Vista should have been.

Ramar 10/24/2010 11:44 PM
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Haserath :
XP is still better than 7 for netbooks. 7 uses 1.5GB just sitting on the desktop, that is way too much for a netbook.Linux would be better than both for a netbook anyway.



U mad. Have you tried using XP versus 7 on a netbook? It is night and day, son. 7 runs much better.

groveborn 10/25/2010 12:19 PM
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nevertell 10/25/2010 12:22 PM
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All the dudes stating that windows 7 eats too much ram whilst idling, it's because of memory prefetching. It would be rare to run out of memory even on a netbook with a gig of ram if you're running just a browser (except for chrome) and a music player, therefore it's a viable option for a netbook, in my opinion.

It's just sad that memory prefetching is just a feature in windows, it doesn't actually work, unlike linux.

pocketdrummer 10/25/2010 12:28 PM
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Not a big loss unless you're trying to record. Drivers are still lagging for Audio Interfaces. It's a pity too, I like Windows 7 much more...

nevertell 10/25/2010 12:28 PM
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groveborn :
Microsoft has generally done a good job at giving its customers what is wants. XP was fine, is fine, but it will not be enough for soon to come PCs. I see a major issue with Windows as it is; there are more devices that aren't *precisely* a PC that run Windows.It's time for several different types of Windows. Windows for PC/Laptops, Windows for Servers, Windows for MIDs... There is no reason for a one size fits all Windows. And there is certainly no need for varying levels of crippled OSes.I dispise the current pricing scheme. Windows Starter? If you pay an extra $50 you can change your wallpaper. Seriously.


I agree with you on one thing. One-size fits all is not what people need. But there is also no need for 3 seperate windows's that would then be divided into 3 different versions (starter/home/ultimate BS). They should redo their kernel, make it modular, so that the user can add/remove modules, there should be at least 2 desktop envirnoments, 1 for a MID, 1 for a desktop, there should also be an option to not use one at all.

alidan 10/25/2010 12:47 PM
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Aintry 10/25/2010 12:58 PM
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pocketdrummer :
Not a big loss unless you're trying to record. Drivers are still lagging for Audio Interfaces. It's a pity too, I like Windows 7 much more...


I'm holding back for that very reason. All I do on my PC is audio processing. All of my gear has to work right or I'm sunk. Right now, everything I use works with Windows XP. I'm not knocking Windows 7 as an OS; I'm sure it's great. But driver support is kind of shaky in the one area that's absolutely critical to me.

Anonymous 10/25/2010 1:01 AM
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All hands down for XP!

notuptome2004 10/25/2010 1:53 AM
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Haserath :
XP is still better than 7 for netbooks. 7 uses 1.5GB just sitting on the desktop, that is way too much for a netbook.Linux would be better than both for a netbook anyway.




i beg to differ on that as my mother runs a AMD athlon XP based AMD system with 1.5gb of ram and an 8400 GS GPU that had windows XP on it with 1.5 of ram and well windows 7 performs better then XP on the same hardware and it is slower the system is then an average new netbook and yet its ram usage tot ram usage is only 400 to 500 or slightly over that of ram even doing and having allot of stuff open, windows 7 is very efficient on how ram is actually used when she had windows XP on with SP3 just have the same amount og stuff running would cause the system to feel laggy to her plus she always had to call me on a problem or 2 each week on windows XP with SP3 witch was a 4 week old install and well the end result


She has yet to call me on how to do this or fix this with windows 7 as it is running in tip top shape since January when i installed it.

kelemvor4 10/25/2010 2:06 AM
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Netbooks lack the horsepower to run most programs anyway. Linux makes a heck of a lot of sense for netbooks. Lightweight, capable, stable, free.

Windows is needed for pc's due to the lack of native software on competing platforms (even wine is not a very good options for anything made in the last year or two). But a netbook can't run that stuff anyway due to resource constraints so there's no reason to run windows on a netbook.

notuptome2004 10/25/2010 2:08 AM
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Aintry :
I'm holding back for that very reason. All I do on my PC is audio processing. All of my gear has to work right or I'm sunk. Right now, everything I use works with Windows XP. I'm not knocking Windows 7 as an OS; I'm sure it's great. But driver support is kind of shaky in the one area that's absolutely critical to me.




What gear would that be cause i am sure your gear would work just great under windows 7 as windows 7 audiostack fixed all the sound issues vista had and well also is far more capable and advanced over what XP offers and Drivers are a non issue now for windows 7. i think you assume we still in the begin months of windows vista when drivers for some manufactures were a tad spotty and or non existent so please Detail the hardware you have and then maby go out and try windows 7 before ya assume your hardware wont run right in windows 7
some video links below on the windows 7 audio stack and what is new and changed all from the Developers him self



http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/Goi [...] dio-Stack/



http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Cha [...] pabilities



theshonen8899 10/25/2010 2:10 AM
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I don't understand why people hate Vista and like Seven so much when they are almost the same exact thing. The only reason I use Seven over XP is because I am no longer capable of living without its nice features (disk partitioning, easy backup, aero snap) but I still find myself disabling UAC, disabling aero on some programs, and various other quirks I had with Vista.

Aintry 10/25/2010 2:27 AM
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notuptome2004 :
What gear would that be cause i am sure your gear would work just great under windows 7 as windows 7 audiostack fixed all the sound issues vista had and well also is far more capable and advanced over what XP offers and Drivers are a non issue now for windows 7. i think you assume we still in the begin months of windows vista when drivers for some manufactures were a tad spotty and or non existent so please Detail the hardware you have and then maby go out and try windows 7 before ya assume your hardware wont run right in windows 7 some video links below on the windows 7 audio stack and what is new and changed all from the Developers him self http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/Goi [...] dio-Stack/http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Cha [...] pabilities


Thanks, I've already done a lot of research, and that's the reason I'm holding off for now.

wphanson 10/25/2010 2:56 AM
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Stardude82 10/25/2010 2:57 AM
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I love my 7 running Netbook and it is much more stable in my experience than XP (apps crash with out taking out the system for instance).

As for OS size, the default Netbook Remix Install is bigger than 2 GB last I checked, not including swap partition.

mastadisasta_31 10/25/2010 3:06 AM
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I bought a laptop about 6 months ago. The least expensive one available at Best Buy, $400. Specs: Celeron 900 (2.2Ghz single core) 2gig ram, 7,200rpm drive. It was preloaded with Win7. Speed was ok, not too bad. Well I needed XP due loading software I needed for work that would not work with Win7. So I loaded XP. Boy was it a pain tho, had to slip stream some drivers onto an XP disk. But once I got it loaded, Holy ba jesus was it fast. 10yr old OS on todays hardware. I wish I had this laptop like this 5yrs ago at this price and speed.

Win7 sure is speedy on my overclocked 4ghz quad core desktop, but loading XP on a cheap laptop you purchase today can just be as fast.

Hella-D 10/25/2010 3:06 AM
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The Temporary Replacement PC I Bought For A Dollar (Yes $1.00) While I Wait For My paycheck To Fix Mine (I Gouged The Motherboard With A Screwdriver During A CPU Upgrade (I Was Pieced-Off!) Runs Windows7 Rather Well Considering Its A 1.8GHz Sempron With 512MB Of RAM, But If I Were To Get A Netbook Or Any Other Laptop Would Most Likely Run Mandriva Linux.


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