More Inside Pictures of the New Xbox 360 S
The Xbox 360 S... exposed!
Our pals at AnandTech have taken apart one of the new Xbox 360 S consoles to show just what the insides are like for this new and hopefully improved version.
Just as suspected, the new Xbox 360 chip integrates both CPU, GPU and eDRAM in one 45nm package. This not only saves cost in manufacturing, but also simplifies cooling.
Another interesting thing to note is that the internal wireless isn't integrated into the system at all; rather, it is just a wireless card plugged right into an internal USB port.
This could be a sign that the upcoming $199 Xbox 360 S won't have wireless simply by Microsoft not plugging a card into the internal USB. This would be a simpler solution than to design two different motherboards for the separate price points.
The new Xbox 360 S also gets put to the test in terms of how much juice it uses. Not surprisingly, the newer design is head and shoulders above all previous designs in terms of efficiency. In fact, when compared to the original launch Xbox 360 unit, the new design consumes less than half the power.
Check out the full article to see the explanations for the images below.
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Wow we need that chip in netbooks
I'm really liking where the Xbox360 is going. If not for the fact that my friends own PS3 already, I might have bought it.
It is a very smart move for them to turn it black because I dont play video games and I was gonna buy a PS3 because it fits in better w my furniture and use it to play media.
Amazing how slimmer is better when it comes to consoles, but worst when it comes to gaming PC's. You need ventilation inside the case. This thing seems promising though. I do like the kinect, I already own a Gaming Rig+PS3 and I see nothing wrong with owning both consoles. It seems like Microsoft fixed its flaws.
Yeah I agree with the guy above me, But I also wonder if this Xbox slim will me able to me modded and Jtaged like the previous much larger version. But when the come out I'll be picking one up just for novelty, not opening it and keeping for thirty years and selling it.
When i first read the catchline i read it as sexposed!!
Now time to replace that cooler with a Cooler Master V8. Guys I have some modding to do. First get my first console though.
But the question is 'Did they remove the X-Clamps for mounting the heatsinks, as they are the cause of E74 and RROD' or in other words. just use screws lol
What about power consumption during load?
It's really nice that they added an USB port to connect the wireless card.
That may take this console to a new level of modification.
What about power consumption during load?
I saw the same thing and was wondering WHY is there idle load only?
I have one of the original 360 units and the power consumption alone (all the other improvements are nice too) could make me want to buy a newer one. It looks like power consumption has considerably come down. If only we could have an "at load" chart to go with the "at idle" that's provided - then we can make a good comparison.
It is a very smart move for them to turn it black because I dont play video games and I was gonna buy a PS3 because it fits in better w my furniture and use it to play media.
The Elite has been black for what, 4 years now?
Amazing how slimmer is better when it comes to consoles, but worst when it comes to gaming PC's. You need ventilation inside the case. This thing seems promising though. I do like the kinect, I already own a Gaming Rig+PS3 and I see nothing wrong with owning both consoles. It seems like Microsoft fixed its flaws.
Efficiency is better no matter how you look at it. If a gaming PC was a set top box with predetermined components the airflow could be designed completely around that, and would probably do better to have a slimmer design that could concentrate the airflow into one very efficient set path. An important factor here being the HDD's, which give off radiant heat and need the space in a PC...not so when the HDD is attached to the outside right next to a vent like it is in the 360S.
Besides, who doesn't have liquid cooling these days?
I read the Anandtech article, the X-clamp is still there but according to the article much easier to work with, just remove 4 screws. As for effeciency the power brick was reduced in size and wattage so efficiency under load has been improved too.
I love my new Xbox 360 S
It is a very smart move for them to turn it black because I dont play video games and I was gonna buy a PS3 because it fits in better w my furniture and use it to play media.
Trust a woman to pick a console based on the colour of it's case
Less power consumption + single chip solution = something smart from Microsoft?
Why is Microsoft's console division the only smart division there? (excluding the Windows 7 team...they get a golf clap ;D )
Less power consumption + single chip solution = something smart from Microsoft?Why is Microsoft's console division the only smart division there? (excluding the Windows 7 team...they get a golf clap ;D )
Smart? Try inevitable - this happens to just about every console out there towards the last couple of years of its lifespan.
As for other Microsoft divisions, Hyper-V is no joke for only having been out for less than 3 years. OCS is shaping up to be the next big product, I'd expect a lot of work going into the UC/UM division.
Trust a woman to pick a console based on the colour of it's case
no woman here i dont play xbox or ps3 only PC games.....
I saw the same thing and was wondering WHY is there idle load only? I have one of the original 360 units and the power consumption alone (all the other improvements are nice too) could make me want to buy a newer one. It looks like power consumption has considerably come down. If only we could have an "at load" chart to go with the "at idle" that's provided - then we can make a good comparison.
The full article at Anandtech did this. The link is at the bottom of this article.
Xbox 360 Revision System Off Idle Halo 3 Rockband 2 Gears of War 2
Xbox 360 S
(Valhalla) 0.6W 70.4W 87.0W 82.7W 88.0W
Xbox 360
(Jasper) 2.0W 93.7W 105.9W 101.0W 105.9W
Xbox 360
(Falcon) 2.8W 101.4W121.2W 112.8W 121.5W
Xbox 360
(Xenon) 2.3W 155.7W177.8W 167.7W 177.1W
The full article at Anandtech did this. The link is at the bottom of this article.Xbox 360 Revision System Off Idle Halo 3 Rockband 2 Gears of War 2Xbox 360 S(Valhalla) 0.6W 70.4W 87.0W 82.7W 88.0W Xbox 360 (Jasper) 2.0W 93.7W 105.9W 101.0W 105.9W Xbox 360(Falcon) 2.8W 101.4W121.2W 112.8W 121.5W Xbox 360(Xenon) 2.3W 155.7W177.8W 167.7W 177.1W
Thanks webdawg77, looks like the 360 finally has consumption down to ps3 slim levels. Nice to see they're making progress. I have a Jasper unit, power consumption and heat were the main reasons i waited so long to buy a 360. Hopefully they keep the wifi unit for the new arcade unit if they release one.
360 S(Valhalla) 0.6W 70.4W 87.0W 82.7W 88.0W Xbox 360(Xenon) 2.3W 155.7W177.8W 167.7W 177.1W
Wow. Sold. But still waiting for the Kinect bundle.
That is one fine piece of equipment. Too bad it is still 5 years old outdated technology but what I see here is pretty nice.
No Blu-Ray? Sigh.
See? I told you guys the hard drive was still a 2.5 drive.
If the $200 model comes without a hard drive, all I have to do is pop the case of my current 360 drive open again and rig up a way to plug it in, since this time the actual connectors of the drive are exposed, that'd be alot easier.
2005 just called. They want their underpowered and overpriced peecee back.
Smart? Try inevitable - this happens to just about every console out there towards the last couple of years of its lifespan.As for other Microsoft divisions, Hyper-V is no joke for only having been out for less than 3 years. OCS is shaping up to be the next big product, I'd expect a lot of work going into the UC/UM division.
You're joking, right? Hyper-V is pathetic when compared to the heavy virtualiztion players. When I say heavy, I don't mean chintzy x86 stuff. I mean HP's Integrity Virtual Machines running HP-UX, and IBM's VIO for AIX. Plus all Hyper-V is compatible with is other Microsoft OS's (and one or two outdated Linux distros). At least VMware makes an effort to officially support nearly all current x86 and x64 operating systems like FreeBSD, OSX Server, MSDOS, Netware, and Solaris x86.
You're joking, right? Hyper-V is pathetic when compared to the heavy virtualiztion players. When I say heavy, I don't mean chintzy x86 stuff. I mean HP's Integrity Virtual Machines running HP-UX, and IBM's VIO for AIX. Plus all Hyper-V is compatible with is other Microsoft OS's (and one or two outdated Linux distros). At least VMware makes an effort to officially support nearly all current x86 and x64 operating systems like FreeBSD, OSX Server, MSDOS, Netware, and Solaris x86.
+1
VMWare > Hyper-V. I've never had a client request Hyper V ever, it's always been VMWare and will continue to be as long as Microsoft won't support other OS's.
No Blu-Ray? Sigh.
Doesn't Sony still control licensing for Blu-Ray, seeing as it is their tech? If so, don't bet on seeing a competing game system coming with it.
Wow, I am excited by this new model. Wanna buy one for myself!
honestly I have lots of problems with xbox.
if you really want to game then get a serious PC machine, it will cost more but the graphics and game experience is much better. much easier to use a mouse and a keyboard.