Are PC Gamers Too Good for Console Gamers?
Controller vs. mouse and keyboard? Not a fair match.
With gaming technologies so similar these days, as games use the same engine technologies, it would seem like a logical step for different platforms to be able to play with each other online. After all, Macs and PCs have been harmoniously getting along with each other online. So what about consoles?
Microsoft controls what goes on its Xbox 360 platform, so through its Games for Windows initiative, one would assume that Microsoft at one point must have contemplated getting its console gamers online with PC gamers. According to VoodooPC founder and HP CTO Rahul Sood, Microsoft tested it and then canned it.
Why? Because console gamers were no match for PC gamers.
"There was a project that got killed at Microsoft. This project was designed to allow console gamers and PC gamers to interact and battle over a connected environment," Sood wrote on his personal blog. "I've heard from reliable sources that during the development they brought together the best console gamers to play mediocre PC gamers at the same game... and guess what happened? They pitted console gamers with their 'console' controller, against PC gamers with their keyboard and mouse."
The results shouldn't be too surprising.
"The console players got destroyed every time," Sood added. "So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative. Is this why the project was killed Who knows, but I'd love to hear from anyone involved --- what happened?"
Sood then continued expressing his belief that cross platform play with the Xbox 360 would promoted the PC as a superior gaming platform, with a little nudge to developers to consider looking at making games for HP's newly acquired Palm webOS.
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Wow all I can say is Xbox got owned
It's also down to how good the player is. I've had friends that spent 5 minutes looking up and then down while running around in a fps before now.
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As it stands, I use both a 360 controller and Mouse+key combo on my pc. Mouse and keyboard cannot be beaten for fps. This has been talked about for the last 8+ years and this keeps going on and on.
But, as I first stated, if you're rubbish then no controller will help (But extreme auto aim might
I dont think every game should be cross platform but it would fun for a few of them to at least have the option.
I'm pulling the biggest smuggest grin you ever did see after reading that.
I LOL'd.
Let it be said too that switching sucks. Back in the original UT I had the nickname "kodak" because i could consistently "snapshot" an instant kill on the fly, that is, turn, shoot, death. On the console, it's a challenge to fire once and hit your target in the same method.
after reading this i couldnt help but to feel a sense of pride..
thats right.. pc gamers ARE better than console gamers.. UGHHH!!!!
"Are PC Gamers Too Good for Console Gamers?"
Yes.
If you have to ask... it's best if you just keep playing your console.
PC as well as PC gamers are better than consoles. So it seems.
Oops! I meant consoles and console gamers.
yea, i played a lan a few months back where a few guys were using xbox 360 ocntrolers on thier pc's cause "We're better at consoles than on pc's" ... it worked out about the same
i think it'd be great for xbox live to work with pc games though, could open up revenue for microsoft in mroe xbox live subscriptions and in turn it could result in less hacking in pc gaming durring online play; now i'm not sayign only allow it via live, just an option and merging players would make for some interesting chatter... you could tell the xbox users by the slew of F bombs and thier voices periodically cracking due to having just hit puberty... you could tell the pc gamers by looking at leaderboards
Yes, OK. PC gamers are better
PC Gamers are better but does that make the PC a superior gaming platform? I think you would need to study the experience each platform provides. Just because you are "better" doesn't necessarily mean you're having more fun.
I think the point of this article is not that PC players are more skilled, but that the keyboard+plus mouse allows for greater control then dual analogue sticks. It should be "mouse + keyboard > console controller".
The benefit of a console is an even playing field for every one. It puts more emphasis in who is better at the game, and not who has a better system. PC's and consoles are two completely different things.
I'm pulling the biggest smuggest grin you ever did see after reading that.
after reading this i couldnt help but to feel a sense of pride.. thats right.. pc gamers ARE better than console gamers.. UGHHH!!!!
Congratulations to you two. I'm glad the article validated your self-worth.
I do have more fun playing on my PC connected to 27" LCD more fun then any other console player in this world will ever have...
By it's very nature, the mouse will always win. The reason console games have aim assist (the "sandpaper" kind not the lock on kind), is because a thumbstick just can't do what a mouse can and it can be pretty hard to use without any help.
Also, I'm feeling this implied idea (from the post) that PC gamers are simply better. That would depend on the the INDIVIDUAL, not what they play on. Seems like food just to start a flame war in the comments. They are different things with different gameplay (even in the same multiplatform game).
If they really took the "best" console players and made them play "mediocre" PC players, if it was a NEW game none of them had ever played, the PC gamers could win by advantage, but if they were playing, say, Halo 2, I still think the console players would win because they'd just know what to do better (teamwork, tactics, yada yada). Aim is not everything.
Meh, you get the idea and no, I'm not a console fanboy. I don't like this brand of news.
Cross-platform gaming should always be offered, with the choice to filter out platforms you wish to play against, leave it up to the people
I'm sure some of you are old enough to remember having LAN Doom tournaments back in the day? There were 3 sets of controls in use then:
1) Keyboard Only
2) Gamepads (Gravis pad, etc)
3) Mouse + Keyboard
The results of every tournament I ever played in was in reverse order, with few and/or NO exceptions. This is something pc gamers have known for two decades. I long for the day that console gamers get thrown into the same servers as me.
Also, Tom's news often has VERY misleading headlines on purpose. >_>
Soulution: use those damn usb ports on that ps3 to connect a friggin keyboard and mouse, AND LET US USE IT IN A GAME!!!
PC Gamers are better but does that make the PC a superior gaming platform? I think you would need to study the experience each platform provides. Just because you are "better" doesn't necessarily mean you're having more fun.
Exactly what I was thinking. When I buy a game for 360/PS3 I know for sure that there will be atleast 10-20,000 people with the game, and that's not even for a triple A title. Triple A titles get into the millions.
Then I buy the same game for PC and I get 2-300 people. lol, what a joke. Don't get me wrong, I love the PC and everything it brings to the table, but with aim-bots, wall hacks, piracy, poor console ports, and very low online numbers, it's easy to see why most buy their games for the console.
I hate to even say it but...the best chance the PC has for a gaming resurgence would be if the console's were 100% compatible with PC games. Even then, the cheating would just go through the roof on the console as well.
The way I see it if you want to play more skilled players, play on PC. If you buy a game and you want to know that the game will still have a ton of players after a month or two buy the game for the console.
sure, for FPS, but why not for games like street fighter 4? No reason why they have to split that up with windows live and xbox live. Totally canning the idea of playing together because of one genre is just stupid, not to mention microsoft can totally make money by offering a keyboard+mouse extension to the xbox if they played their cards right.
Yeah but... what about a turn based strategy game??!?! This is where these idiots don't see the potential. The combined console plus PC sales would be a boon for MS.
The way forward is the way CCP are trying to do it with EVE and Dust.
Dust will be a console based online FPS, tied in to the EVE MMORPG/Strategy. Success and failures in dust will directly affect pilots in EVE who have planetary industrial activities. PC and console working together doesn't necessarily mean doing the same thing against/with each other.
Are PC Gamers Too Good for Console Gamers?
Of course!! We are so l33t.
Imagine a Cevo CSS player versus a Halo player...
ahh, i always wondered. I thought at one time it was rumored that xbox live would feature the ability for vista users to play against console players on the program. I didnt hear much about it again, but these hands have been dying to teach those console kiddies a lesson in pwning for a long time.
My weapon of choice when i'm gaming happens to be mouse + keyboard... I just don't like console controller. I've never really liked the buttons at the front of the controller meant for the index fingers of your right and left hands...
PC is better than XBOX, it has nothing to do with the gamer at all, it has to do with the hardware and controllers!
A crap gamer will be crap regardless of the machine he games on, and a uber 1337 gamer will still pawn regardless of the machine!