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Are PC Gamers Too Good for Console Gamers?

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Controller vs. mouse and keyboard? Not a fair match.

With gaming technologies so similar these days, as games use the same engine technologies, it would seem like a logical step for different platforms to be able to play with each other online. After all, Macs and PCs have been harmoniously getting along with each other online. So what about consoles?

Microsoft controls what goes on its Xbox 360 platform, so through its Games for Windows initiative, one would assume that Microsoft at one point must have contemplated getting its console gamers online with PC gamers. According to VoodooPC founder and HP CTO Rahul Sood, Microsoft tested it and then canned it.

Why? Because console gamers were no match for PC gamers.

"There was a project that got killed at Microsoft. This project was designed to allow console gamers and PC gamers to interact and battle over a connected environment," Sood wrote on his personal blog. "I've heard from reliable sources that during the development they brought together the best console gamers to play mediocre PC gamers at the same game... and guess what happened? They pitted console gamers with their 'console' controller, against PC gamers with their keyboard and mouse."

The results shouldn't be too surprising.

"The console players got destroyed every time," Sood added. "So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative. Is this why the project was killed Who knows, but I'd love to hear from anyone involved --- what happened?"

Sood then continued expressing his belief that cross platform play with the Xbox 360 would promoted the PC as a superior gaming platform, with a little nudge to developers to consider looking at making games for HP's newly acquired Palm webOS.

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TomTomz 07/23/2010 2:10 PM
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Wow all I can say is Xbox got owned

excalibur1814 07/23/2010 2:11 PM
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It's also down to how good the player is. I've had friends that spent 5 minutes looking up and then down while running around in a fps before now.

As it stands, I use both a 360 controller and Mouse+key combo on my pc. Mouse and keyboard cannot be beaten for fps. This has been talked about for the last 8+ years and this keeps going on and on.

But, as I first stated, if you're rubbish then no controller will help (But extreme auto aim might :) )

tapnick 07/23/2010 2:11 PM
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I dont think every game should be cross platform but it would fun for a few of them to at least have the option.

JeanLuc 07/23/2010 2:20 PM
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I'm pulling the biggest smuggest grin you ever did see after reading that.

Anonymous 07/23/2010 2:21 PM
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I LOL'd. :)

awood28211 07/23/2010 2:21 PM
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jesman1985 07/23/2010 2:22 PM
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after reading this i couldnt help but to feel a sense of pride.. :) thats right.. pc gamers ARE better than console gamers.. UGHHH!!!!

dan117 07/23/2010 2:23 PM
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"Are PC Gamers Too Good for Console Gamers?"
Yes.

nicodemus_mm 07/23/2010 2:31 PM
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Quote :Are PC Gamers Too Good for Console Gamers?


If you have to ask... it's best if you just keep playing your console.

rohitbaran 07/23/2010 2:32 PM
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PC as well as PC gamers are better than consoles. So it seems. :)

rohitbaran 07/23/2010 2:32 PM
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Oops! I meant consoles and console gamers.

g00fysmiley 07/23/2010 2:33 PM
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yea, i played a lan a few months back where a few guys were using xbox 360 ocntrolers on thier pc's cause "We're better at consoles than on pc's" ... it worked out about the same :D

i think it'd be great for xbox live to work with pc games though, could open up revenue for microsoft in mroe xbox live subscriptions and in turn it could result in less hacking in pc gaming durring online play; now i'm not sayign only allow it via live, just an option and merging players would make for some interesting chatter... you could tell the xbox users by the slew of F bombs and thier voices periodically cracking due to having just hit puberty... you could tell the pc gamers by looking at leaderboards ;)

domenic 07/23/2010 2:35 PM
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Yes, OK. PC gamers are better

domenic 07/23/2010 2:38 PM
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jsrudd 07/23/2010 2:43 PM
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I think the point of this article is not that PC players are more skilled, but that the keyboard+plus mouse allows for greater control then dual analogue sticks. It should be "mouse + keyboard > console controller".

andman22 07/23/2010 2:44 PM
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domenic 07/23/2010 2:44 PM
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lradunovic77 07/23/2010 2:44 PM
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I do have more fun playing on my PC connected to 27" LCD more fun then any other console player in this world will ever have...

randomroger 07/23/2010 2:48 PM
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By it's very nature, the mouse will always win. The reason console games have aim assist (the "sandpaper" kind not the lock on kind), is because a thumbstick just can't do what a mouse can and it can be pretty hard to use without any help.

Also, I'm feeling this implied idea (from the post) that PC gamers are simply better. That would depend on the the INDIVIDUAL, not what they play on. Seems like food just to start a flame war in the comments. They are different things with different gameplay (even in the same multiplatform game).

If they really took the "best" console players and made them play "mediocre" PC players, if it was a NEW game none of them had ever played, the PC gamers could win by advantage, but if they were playing, say, Halo 2, I still think the console players would win because they'd just know what to do better (teamwork, tactics, yada yada). Aim is not everything.

Meh, you get the idea and no, I'm not a console fanboy. I don't like this brand of news.

TunaSoda 07/23/2010 2:53 PM
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Cross-platform gaming should always be offered, with the choice to filter out platforms you wish to play against, leave it up to the people

Anonymous 07/23/2010 2:53 PM
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I'm sure some of you are old enough to remember having LAN Doom tournaments back in the day? There were 3 sets of controls in use then:
1) Keyboard Only
2) Gamepads (Gravis pad, etc)
3) Mouse + Keyboard

The results of every tournament I ever played in was in reverse order, with few and/or NO exceptions. This is something pc gamers have known for two decades. I long for the day that console gamers get thrown into the same servers as me.

randomroger 07/23/2010 2:54 PM
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Also, Tom's news often has VERY misleading headlines on purpose. >_>

nevertell 07/23/2010 2:56 PM
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Soulution: use those damn usb ports on that ps3 to connect a friggin keyboard and mouse, AND LET US USE IT IN A GAME!!!

sincreator 07/23/2010 2:59 PM
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Anonymous 07/23/2010 2:59 PM
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sure, for FPS, but why not for games like street fighter 4? No reason why they have to split that up with windows live and xbox live. Totally canning the idea of playing together because of one genre is just stupid, not to mention microsoft can totally make money by offering a keyboard+mouse extension to the xbox if they played their cards right.

LORD_ORION 07/23/2010 2:59 PM
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Yeah but... what about a turn based strategy game??!?! This is where these idiots don't see the potential. The combined console plus PC sales would be a boon for MS.

Drag0nR1der 07/23/2010 3:03 PM
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The way forward is the way CCP are trying to do it with EVE and Dust.

Dust will be a console based online FPS, tied in to the EVE MMORPG/Strategy. Success and failures in dust will directly affect pilots in EVE who have planetary industrial activities. PC and console working together doesn't necessarily mean doing the same thing against/with each other.

tommysch 07/23/2010 3:03 PM
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Are PC Gamers Too Good for Console Gamers?

Of course!! We are so l33t.

Imagine a Cevo CSS player versus a Halo player...

adikos 07/23/2010 3:04 PM
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ahh, i always wondered. I thought at one time it was rumored that xbox live would feature the ability for vista users to play against console players on the program. I didnt hear much about it again, but these hands have been dying to teach those console kiddies a lesson in pwning for a long time.

ajcroteau 07/23/2010 3:04 PM
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My weapon of choice when i'm gaming happens to be mouse + keyboard... I just don't like console controller. I've never really liked the buttons at the front of the controller meant for the index fingers of your right and left hands...

moricon 07/23/2010 3:05 PM
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