Ok, we're now flooring the cards at 1600x1200x16 in Descent and most of the cards have bit the dust. At the top we have the Voodoo3 3500 taking top rank as the high speed TNT2 Ultra's keep close behind. Look at how that PCI TNT2 performed, not bad. I know quite a few people will be excited to see how well that card is doing for lower end motherboards that don't have AGP slots.