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Phenom Recycled: Athlon X2 7000-Series
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Test System
Hardware Details
AMD Motherboard
(Socket AM2+)
Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe WiFi
Revision: 1.02G
Chipset: AMD790FX + SB600
Bios: 1202 (07/03/2008)
AMD Motherboard II
(Socket AM2+)
MSI DKA790GX Platinum (MS-7550)
Revision: 1.2
Chipset: AMD790FX + SB700
Bios: V0.0 (11/25/2008)
Intel Motherboard
(Sockel 775)
Gigabyte X48T-DQ6
Revision: 1.3
Chipset: Intel X48 + ICH9
Bios: F5 (07/21/2008)
Intel-Motherboard II
(Socket 1366)
Intel DX58SO
Revision: 403
Cipset: Intel X58 + ICH10
Bios1: SOX5810J.86A.2260.2008.0918.1758
Bios2: SOX5810J.86A.2624.2008.1021.1531
DDR2 Memory
AMD System
A-DATA DDR2-800+ (2x 2GB)
Type: AD2800E002GU
Setup: DDR2-1066 (CL 5.0-5-5-15-2T)
DDR3 Memory
Intel System
A-DATA DDR3-1600 (2x 2GB)
Type: AD31600X002GU
Setup: DDR3-1333 (CL 7.0-7-7-20)
Graphics Card
MSI N280GTX-T2D1G-OC
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX280 (GT200)
GPU Clock Speed: 650 MHz
Memory: 1024 MB GDDR3
2300 MHz (512 Bit)
Blu-ray ROM Pioneer BDC-202BK
SATA/150
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar SE 320 GB (WD3200AAKS)
7,200 RPM, SATA/300, 16 MB
Power Supply Unit
Coolermaster RS-850-EMBA
850 Watt, ATX 12V 2.3
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
with X-Fi Xtreme Fidelity
A/D Wandler: 96 kHz/24 Bit
USB Stick Corsair Flash Voyager 4 GB
Write: 16 MB/sek
Read: 33 MB/sek
Drivers
Driver Details
ATI Chipset Driver Version 7.8 Northbridge Filter Driver
1.02.000.2
IDE Driver
5.1.0.8
Intel Chipset Drivers
9.0.0.1008 (6/2/2008)
Intel Chipset Drivers (Core i7) 9.1.0.1007
Intel Matrix Storage 8.5.0.1032
Nvidia Graphics Driver
177.41 WHQL (06/26/2008)
Creative Audio Driver 2.15.0006 (03/14/2008) 
3D Games Benchmarks and Settings
Benchmark Details
Crysis Version: 1.2.1
Video Mode: 1680x1050
Overall Quality: low
Demo: CPU-Benchmark2 + Tom's Hardware Tool
Unreal Tournament 3 Version: 1.2
Video Mode: 1680x1050
Sound and DirectX10
Video Quality:
Texture Details: 1
Level Details: 1
Demo: vCTF-CONTAINMENT_fly
Time: 12/60
World in Conflict Version: 1.0.0.9
Video Mode: 1680x1050 and 800x600
Video Quality: low details
Demo: Game-Benchmark
Supreme Commander
Forged Alliance
Version: 1.5.3599
Video Mode: 1920x1200
Video Quality: game default
Demo: WallaceTX_006_006
Benchmark: Fraps 2.9.4 - Build 7037
Start time 00:48:20 (60 seconds) realtime play
Audio Benchmarks and Settings
Benchmark Details
iTunes Version: 7.7.1.11
Audio CD (Terminator II SE), 53 min
Default format AAC
Lame MP3 Version 3.98
Audio CD "Terminator II SE", 53 min
wave to mp3
160 Kbps
Video Benchmarks and Settings
Benchmark Details
Pinnacle Studio 12 Version: 12.0.0.6163
Encoding and Transition Rendering
DV camcorder movie
Video:
720 x 576 Pixel, PAL, 25 fps, 6000 Kbits/sec
Audio:
MPEG Layer 2, 224 Kbits/sec 16 Bit, Stereo 44.1 KHz
File Type: MPEG-2 (DVD Compatible)
TMPEG 4.5 Version: 4.5.1.254
Vieo: Terminator 2 SE DVD (720x576, 16:9) 5 Minutes
Audio: Dolby Digital, 48000 Hz, 6-Kanal, English
Advanced Acoustic Engine MP3 Encoder (160 kbps, 44.1 KHz)
DivX 6.8.3 Version: 6.8.3
== Main Menu ==
default
== Codec Menu ==
Encoding mode: Insane Quality
Enhanced multithreading
Enabled using SSE4
Quarter-pixel search
== Video Menu ==
Quantization: MPEG-2
XviD 1.1.3 Version: 1.1.3
Other Options / Encoder Menu -
Display encoding status = off
Nero 8 Recorde Version: 3.1.4.0
Recorde an Entire DVD to DVD
convert DVD-9 to DVD5
all default settings
Benchmark
High quality mode (slow recording)
disable video preview
Mainconcept Reference 1.5.1
Reference H.264 Plugin Pro 1.5.1
Version: 1.5.1
MPEG2 to MPEG2 (H.264)
MainConcept H.264/AVC Codec
28 sec HDTV 1920x1080 (MPEG2)
Audio:
MPEG2 (44.1 kHz, 2 Channel, 16 Bit, 224 kbps)
Codec: H.264
Mode: PAL (25 FPS)
Profile: Tom's Hardware Settings for Qct-Core
Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 HDTV
Mainconcept H.264 Plugin 3.2
Windows Media Encoder 9.1 AP HDTV
Windows Audio Encoder 10 Pro
Version: 3.0
NTSC MPEG2-HDTV 1920x1080 (24 sec)
Import: Mainconcept NTSC HDTV 1080i
Export: Adobe Media Encoder
== Video ==
Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile
Encoding Passes: one
Bitrate Mode: Constant
Frame: 1920x1080
Frame Rate: 29.97
Maximum Bitrate [kbps]: 2000
Image Quality: 50.00
== Audio ==
Windows Media Audio 10 Professional
Encoding Passes: one
Bitrate Mode: Constant
Audio Format:
160 kbps, 44.1 kHz, 2 channel 16 bit (A/V) CBR
HD Playback (Blue Ray) PowerDVD 8
Blue Ray - Disc (James Bond - Casino Royale)
Video Mode: 1920x1080p (full screen)
Codec: H.264
Application Benchmarks and Settings
Benchmark Details
Grisoft AVG Anti-Virus 8 Version: 8.0.134
Virus base: 270.4.5/1533
Benchmark
Scan: some compressed ZIP and RAR archives
Winrar 3.8 Version 3.80 BETA 4
WinZIP Commandline Version 2.3
Compression = Best
Dictionary = 4096 KB
Benchmark: THG-Workload
Winzip 11 Version 11.2 (8094)
Compression = Best
Benchmark: THG-Workload
Autodesk 3D Studio Max 9 Version: 9.0
Rendering a Dragon picture
rendering HTDV 1920x1080
Maxon Cinema 4D Release 10 Version: 10.008
Rendering from a scene
(Water drop at a Rose)
Resolution: 1280 x 1024 - 8Bit (50 frames)
Adobe Photoshop CS 3 Version: 10.0x20070321
Filtering from a 69 MB TIF-Photo
Benchmark: Tomshardware-Benchmark V1.0.0.4
Programmed by Tomshardware using Delphi 2007
Filters:
Crosshatch
Glass
Sumi-e
Accented Edges
Angled Strokes
Sprayed Strokes
Adobe Acrobat 9 Professional Version: 9.0.0 (Extended)
== Printing Preferenced Menu ==
Default Settings: Standard
== Adobe PDF Security - Edit Menu ==
Encrypt all documents (128 bit RC4)
Open Password: 123
Permissions Password: 321
Microsoft Powerpoint 2007 Version: 2007
PPT to PDF
Powerpoint Document (115 Pages)
Adobe PDF-Printer
Deep Fritz 11 Version: 11
Fritz Chess Benchmark Version 4.2
Synthetic Benchmarks and Settings
Benchmark Details
3DMark Vantage Version: 1.02
Options: Performance
Graphics Test 1
Graphics Test 2
CPU Test 1
CPU Test 2
PCMark Vantage Version: 1.00
PCMark Benchmark
Memories Benchmark
Windows Media Player 10.00.00.3646
SiSoftware Sandra XII SP2 Version 2008.5.14.24
CPU Test = CPU Arithmetic / MultiMedia
Memory Test = Bandwidth Benchmark
Everest Version: 4.50.1469 Beta
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  • 14 Hide
    Naw-yi , December 16, 2008 7:41 AM
    notice the memory used is 800mzh not 1066mhz, also why would they use different video cards? the drivers used arnt even up to date... test should be run with alike hardware and software(or as close to alike as possible) or its not to be taken seriously.
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  • -5 Hide
    davidgbailey , December 16, 2008 3:06 AM
    First Comment!!!

    AMD is competing with Core 2 Duo? Why don't they try to compete with core i7? Oh wait, they can't compete with core i7 being 2 years behind. But AMD FTW against Core 2 Duo 2 years later!!!
  • 0 Hide
    curnel_D , December 16, 2008 3:17 AM
    I'd upgrade to the 6400+BE before I'd upgrade to the 7000 series.
  • -4 Hide
    tipmen , December 16, 2008 4:10 AM
    Poor AMD
  • 6 Hide
    royalcrown , December 16, 2008 4:40 AM
    Wow, only 80 bucks to upgrade a four whole fps over my 5400 x2....lemme rush right out, not !
  • 0 Hide
    urban_black_redneck , December 16, 2008 6:04 AM
    Curnel_DI'd upgrade to the 6400+BE before I'd upgrade to the 7000 series.
    Now the 6000 is just under $80 (same price as the 7750BE) and the 6400 is hard to find.

    I am building my first gaming computer from the ground up, proudly starting with the 7750 Black Edition.
  • 6 Hide
    amdgamer666 , December 16, 2008 6:32 AM
    would like to have seen some overclockability tests but otherwise great article. good to see amd has released kuma (finally) to become slightly more competetive
  • 14 Hide
    Naw-yi , December 16, 2008 7:41 AM
    notice the memory used is 800mzh not 1066mhz, also why would they use different video cards? the drivers used arnt even up to date... test should be run with alike hardware and software(or as close to alike as possible) or its not to be taken seriously.
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    Naw-yi , December 16, 2008 7:44 AM
    Naw-yinotice the memory used is 800mzh not 1066mhz, test should be run with alike hardware and software(or as close to alike as possible) or its not to be taken seriously.

  • 2 Hide
    cangelini , December 16, 2008 7:56 AM
    Naw, I'll ask Patrick to answer the memory questions. However, if you read the Test Setup page, you'll see that only one graphics card was used. Also, given the mainstream nature of these graphics cards versus the very high-end graphics card, there is no way in a million years that the WHQL driver used would have any effect on the outcome of these benchmarks.
  • 1 Hide
    cangelini , December 16, 2008 8:26 AM
    Naw, ran the memory question past our German team and updated the piece. Same modules were run at 1066 and CAS 5. Thanks for the catch. Hope that answers all of your questions. If there's anything else, please let me know!
  • -7 Hide
    sighQ2 , December 16, 2008 8:48 AM
    ..................................
    A-DATA DDR2-800+ (2x 2GB)
    Setup: DDR2-1066 (CL 5.0-5-5-15-2T)
    VS
    A-DATA DDR3-1600 (2x 2GB)
    Setup: DDR3-1333 (CL 7.0-7-7-20)
    ...................................
    WELL - Perhaps you could do an extensive unbiased review that would SOMEHOW DEMONSTRATE that these 2 mem sets are EQUAL????

    good luck with that :) 
  • -4 Hide
    sighQ2 , December 16, 2008 8:57 AM
    I guess it just wasn't possible to select newer mobos for the AMD setup. Not sure why you used 2 different mobos. One newer mobo with a 790GX/SB750 or 790FX/SB750 chipset, would have been better and would offer EZ-oclox using AOD/ACC.
    Plus the intel boards are newer and FOR A CPU COMPARE TEST it would be better to just use similar ram, so there is no accusation of bias - I bet you would like that.
    But somehow, there's always the 'smoke and mirror' trixxx, = sad.
    Your readers must be idiots.
  • -5 Hide
    sighQ2 , December 16, 2008 9:23 AM
    Urban_Black_RedneckNow the 6000 is just under $80 (same price as the 7750BE) and the 6400 is hard to find.I am building my first gaming computer from the ground up, proudly starting with the 7750 Black Edition.


    Cool. And you will be able to easily upgrade in a year or two by dropping in any DENEB cpu, whenever you feel like it. (DENEB has dual integrated memory controllers on the cpu for either ddr2 or ddr3 :)  and socket AM3 is back-compatible :) 
  • 2 Hide
    royalcrown , December 16, 2008 9:27 AM
    pPlese ppl ddr 800 or 1066 is gonna make no difference in the real world, and timings schmimings...it's not gonna make the "new" XP's a compelling reason to upgrade.
    AMD needs something that is FAST, not just marginally faster rehashed leftovers.
  • 0 Hide
    royalcrown , December 16, 2008 9:34 AM
    sighQ2Cool. unless
    @cangelini: please pass this on, i am typing bling and constantly refreshing and clearing my cach because this page design/forum desigh stinks...using Firefox 3 if the webheads wanna know.I cant really type because the page never loads, my cursor is stuck hard against the left corner and stuff goes left into space when i try to post. This sucks and they need to fix it or junk it !need a new 125-140 watt mb ! !
    nd you will be able to easily upgrade in a year or two by dropping in any DENEB cpu, whenever you feel like it. (DENEB has dual integrated memory controllers on the cpu for either ddr2 or ddr3 and socket AM3 is back-compatible

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    sighQ2 , December 16, 2008 9:37 AM
    royalcrownpPlese ppl ddr 800 or 1066 is gonna make no difference in the real world, and timings schmimings...it's not gonna make the "new" XP's a compelling reason to upgrade.AMD needs something that is FAST, not just marginally faster rehashed leftovers.


    Well, yes, that is true. But many little biases make for a biased inaccurate review that is not true. So prove your point with a fair test. I know what you mean, but the truth is all I am seeking here, and it is not here!

    The things I am pointing out are common in many socalled tests and reviews. Once you start to see it, YOU benefit.

    C2D might be faster, but not all of them are faster. And in real world computing, something else takes over, and is not about test reports. They don't speak of that either. Lack of stalls, smoother, consistency. Or the fact that a bench test can be cached on first run and reported on second run = faster = lying to make one look better.
    There are a lot of trix.

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