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While we were busy finding an appropriate testing platform, getting all the AMD Turion 64 X2 processors and adding them to our Mobile CPU Charts, AMD has been working on its next-generation mobile platform. Platform? Yes. AMD is on the right track by not only launching a new processor, but it will also offer an adequate chipset itself.
Processor: Turion 64 Ultra (Griffin)
The new mobile processor will be a new 65-nm part that is based on the AMD64 architecture, but garnished with several components from the Stars architecture that is being used by the Phenom processors. The improved features are a HyperTransport 3.0 interface, which offers way more bandwidth than Intel’s Front Side Bus, more L2 cache memory and a faster DDR2 memory controller that now supports DDR2-800 SO-DIMMs. The HT link can be switched off when it’s not needed.
The code-named Griffin processor might be called Turion 64 Ultra and it will have larger L2 caches (2x 1 MB), which are still independent of each other. AMD has deliberately followed this path, as the processor will be supplied with different power inputs [power planes], which will be applied separately to different parts of the CPU and surrounding chipset: one for each of the processing cores to enable the power saving mechanisms to control them totally independently from each other, and the third one for the main memory channel. This allows the platform to put one or even both processors into a C4 state (deeper sleep), while the main memory can still be accessed by the integrated graphics unit.
In addition to this, the PowerNow! energy saving feature is now based on a finer granularity and runs the cores at full speed and at seven other speeds down to only 1/8 of the core clock speed. For a 2.0- to 2.4 GHz clock speed range, this equals a 250-300 MHz minimum clock speed. And there still are the C1 and C3 states (halt and deep sleep), followed by the C4 option mentioned above.
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So if this is an updated mobile cpu chart, where are the T8100's T9300's?
45nm is the way to go on laptops
I also miss some processor in the T5000 series, because they are very common in low-end laptops. Good work anyway!
I too am very dissapointed that your mobile CPU chart doesn't inlcude the T5000 series of processors from Intel. I realize that everyone wants to see the "high end", but some of want to compare it to the low end as well.
I just purchased an HP 17" laptop and was trying to find some data on the T5000 processors because that is what comes stock on the model I purchased. I wanted to see if it was really worth it to spend the extra ~$200 to upgrade to the T9000 processors. I had to look elsewhere to get that kind of comparrison.
To bad for Toms' sites, I found another reputable site that I will now use as a reference tool. Shame on Tom's for not covering the mid and low range products.
65nm Turion X2's support DDR2-800. Why wasn't this speed used instead of DDR2-667?
toms you are no1 but you need more laptop cpu and gpu charting.
Wow, I knew my TL-60 was pathetic but I never realized just how much
I like the charts, I like the interactivity and I love that we can compare mobile and desktop CPUs. I just wish mine didn't rank so low.
Copying an earlier comment, these charts need many more chips on them. I just bought an otherwise screaming laptop with an 8800M GTS GPU but only T5550 CPU, and want to know how much improvement I'd get moving up to a T8xxx or T9xxx.
Plus in general I miss how the charts used to allow highlighting of specific processors for easier comparison.
Tom's used to be number 1. They are jut OK now. If you don't know more than the authors and are not able to independently screen the information you can't trust the data or conclusions at Tom's anymore
Copying an earlier comment, these charts need many more chips on them. I just bought an otherwise screaming laptop with an 8800M GTS GPU but only T5550 CPU, and want to know how much improvement I'd get moving up to a T8xxx or T9xxx.Plus in general I miss how the charts used to allow highlighting of specific processors for easier comparison.
That's a bit pointless why review lots when the few they have are done poorly anyway.
Whats the point of adding these benchmarks without demonstrating that your Notebook battery will last - less, more or the same between models/price/performance.
Tom's grab a load meter and find the DC power load of each of these processors on your Solar Power equipment (direct DC input not AC PSU, to emulated a Notebook Battery).
1. record peak and typical power in "each & every" application/benchmark
2. record power consumption at system IDLE