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Chipset: RS780 aka AMD780G

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3:20 AM - 05/22/2008 by Patrick Schmid and Achim Roos

While AMD still does not offer wireless components (remember that Intel has offered the 2200bg, 2915bg, 3945abg and 4965abgn modules for its mobile platforms), the firm took the existing AMD 780G chipset and adjusted it for mobile use. While insiders don’t expect the platform to deliver less power consumption than Intel’s current GM965 chipset (Crestline) or even the upcoming Montevina platform (see next section), AMD’s solution could very well deliver better energy efficiency for computing-intensive HD video playback thanks to the relatively powerful integrated Radeon HD3200 unit. It’s still not fast enough for serious gaming, but it’s clearly one of the most powerful integrated graphics options with DirectX 10 support, which again is important for getting the Windows Vista Premium Ready certification. And it has the hybrid graphics feature called PowerXpress up its sleeve.

While AMD cannot compete with Intel in the processor performance arena, any efficient dual core at average clock speeds certainly is quick enough for mainstream notebooks. If you now add a powerful core logic with integrated graphics, such as the AMD780G, the chipset can in fact contribute an important part to the success of Puma. AMD has already documented that more than 100 product designs are ready to bring Puma to market.

The important element of success is the hybrid graphics capability of the 780G chipset, known as PowerXpress. While you’re working on battery, the notebook will use the power-efficient, but not overly fast integrated Radeon HD3200 graphics. Once you plug into a power port, the system will activate the (optional) Radeon HD3400 unit, which is a discrete graphics chip. Faster models are feasible, though we don’t have specific information on the possible graphics choices. However, both the integrated Radeon HD3200 and the discrete unit may run in Crossfire mode, thus combining their graphics performance in hybrid dual-graphics mode. Clearly, this can provide an almost perfect combination of energy efficient, integrated graphics for mobile use and gaming-suitable discrete graphics when you’re plugged in.

The AMD780G chipset also supports PCI Express 2.0, which can contribute to power savings by managing the link width and link speed. It connects via HyperTransport 3.0 and it supports AMD’s version of on-board NAND flash memory, which is called HyperFlash. AMD will deploy its SB700 Southbridge, which is not quite a mobile part, but it offers lots of interfaces such as 14x USB 2.0, one UltraATA channel, six SATA/300 ports (important for optional eSATA ports) and legacy PCI.

Talkback
weinheimer 05/22/2008 4:16 PM
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So if this is an updated mobile cpu chart, where are the T8100's T9300's?

45nm is the way to go on laptops

drfelip 05/22/2008 6:41 PM
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I also miss some processor in the T5000 series, because they are very common in low-end laptops. Good work anyway!

jcwbnimble 05/22/2008 7:10 PM
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I too am very dissapointed that your mobile CPU chart doesn't inlcude the T5000 series of processors from Intel. I realize that everyone wants to see the "high end", but some of want to compare it to the low end as well.

I just purchased an HP 17" laptop and was trying to find some data on the T5000 processors because that is what comes stock on the model I purchased. I wanted to see if it was really worth it to spend the extra ~$200 to upgrade to the T9000 processors. I had to look elsewhere to get that kind of comparrison.

To bad for Toms' sites, I found another reputable site that I will now use as a reference tool. Shame on Tom's for not covering the mid and low range products.

lightbody 05/22/2008 10:39 PM
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65nm Turion X2's support DDR2-800. Why wasn't this speed used instead of DDR2-667?

eltouristo 05/23/2008 5:59 AM
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toms you are no1 but you need more laptop cpu and gpu charting.

nihility 05/25/2008 5:14 PM
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Wow, I knew my TL-60 was pathetic but I never realized just how much :(
I like the charts, I like the interactivity and I love that we can compare mobile and desktop CPUs. I just wish mine didn't rank so low.

crantech 05/28/2008 7:23 PM
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Copying an earlier comment, these charts need many more chips on them. I just bought an otherwise screaming laptop with an 8800M GTS GPU but only T5550 CPU, and want to know how much improvement I'd get moving up to a T8xxx or T9xxx.

Plus in general I miss how the charts used to allow highlighting of specific processors for easier comparison.

weinheimer 05/28/2008 8:05 PM
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Tom's used to be number 1. They are jut OK now. If you don't know more than the authors and are not able to independently screen the information you can't trust the data or conclusions at Tom's anymore

carl0ski 06/01/2008 9:26 AM
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crantech :
Copying an earlier comment, these charts need many more chips on them. I just bought an otherwise screaming laptop with an 8800M GTS GPU but only T5550 CPU, and want to know how much improvement I'd get moving up to a T8xxx or T9xxx.Plus in general I miss how the charts used to allow highlighting of specific processors for easier comparison.



That's a bit pointless why review lots when the few they have are done poorly anyway.

Whats the point of adding these benchmarks without demonstrating that your Notebook battery will last - less, more or the same between models/price/performance.

Tom's grab a load meter and find the DC power load of each of these processors on your Solar Power equipment (direct DC input not AC PSU, to emulated a Notebook Battery).
1. record peak and typical power in "each & every" application/benchmark
2. record power consumption at system IDLE

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