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Meet The FirePro W-Series

AMD FirePro W8000 And W9000 Review: GCN Goes Pro
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As mentioned, AMD's FirePro W-series currently consists of four graphics products, though we hear that the entry-level W600 is nearly ready as well. We received samples of the two highest-end cards, the W9000 and W8000.

Technical details covering all of the products are still sparse, and AMD didn't break down all of the cards for us. However, using several additional sources, we were able to get most of the missing information.


FirePro
W9000
FirePro
W8000
FirePro
W7000
FirePro
W5000
AMD Class
Ultra High-End
High-End
High-End
Mid-Range
ALUs
2048
1792
1280
640
GPU Clock
975 MHz
900 MHz
950 MHz825 MHz
Texture Units
128
112
80
40
ROPs
32
32
32
16
Pixel Fill Rate
31.2 Gpixels/s
28.8 Gpixels/s30.4 Gpixels/s13.2 Gpixels/s
Texture Fill Rate
124.8 Gtex/s
100.8 Gtex/s76 Gtex/s33 Gtex/s
Memory GDDR5
6 GB
4 GB
4 GB
2 GB
Memory Interface
384-Bit
256-Bit
256-Bit
128-Bit
Memory Clock
1375 MHz
1375 MHz
1200 MHz800 MHz
Memory Bandwidth
264 GB/s
176 GB/s
153.6 GB/s102.4 GB/s
TFLOPs SP
4096
3225.6
2432
1267.2
TFLOPs DP
1024
806.4
15279.2
Codename
Tahiti XT
Tahiti Pro
Pitcairn
Pitcairn
Maximum Power
Consumption
278 Watt
(measured)
198 Watt
(measured)
<=150 Watt
(estimated)
<=75 Watt
(estimated)
Power Connectors
8-Pin + 6-Pin
2 x 6-Pin6-PinNone
Connectors
6 x Mini DP
3D Stereo
Genlock/Framelock
4 x DP
3D Stereo
Genlock/Framelock
4 x DP
3D Stereo (opt. Bracket)
Genlock/Framelock
2 x DP + DL-DVI
3D Stereo (opt. Bracket)
MSRP
$3999
$1599
$899
$599


AMD FirePro W9000

AMD FirePro W8000

The design and exterior of the cards are similar to the consumer Tahiti-based cards, except for the power connectors, which can be found in the back. Plugging in auxiliary power makes the long cards even longer, which is something that system builders will have to take into account. Also, the I/O brackets reflect a more workstation-oriented audience, going heavy on DisplayPort connectivity.

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    Anonymous , August 13, 2012 6:57 AM
    Please note that dozens of software companies (all the most prevalent in DCC and CAD) have thoroughly tested and certified the drivers for the W8000 and W9000 cards. This means that users of these applications should not be concerned about driver stability or user experience.

    Yes, this is a brand new architecture and yes, performance improvements will continue to be made with subsequent driver optimizations.
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    bystander , August 13, 2012 6:35 AM
    mayankleoboy1Typical of AMD : releasing cards without proper drivers.I bet most professionals wont touch these cards until atleast 3-4 driver revisions. These cards are newer, and perform worse than competitions older.

    Did you not read all the benchmarks? In many of the benchmarks it beat out Nvidia's offering by a lot, some were even, some were worse. And they are cheaper than the those Nvidia cards it would seem by the price offering of 4.2k for the Quadro 6000 right on the last page, compared to 4k for the W9000 and 1.6k for the W8000.

    So depending on what you use it for, it may very well be a great choice.
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    fuzznarf , August 13, 2012 11:32 AM
    Seriously Tom's?? No Blender benchmark? Still??
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    mayankleoboy1 , August 13, 2012 5:23 AM
    1.How does the CPU performance affect the benchmarks ? IOW, are these softwares enough offloaded on to the GPU, that changing the CPU to a much better Intel Xeons wont affect the performance much ?

    2. Also, how do the consumer cards perform on these pro softwares ?
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    rdc85 , August 13, 2012 5:27 AM
    They are new architecture, it's kinda expected result. I can see there a room for improvement, but without the application that can take advantage of it, then it will useless..

    in the end I'm glad to see that AMD graphic section is trying to make an effort, not like the their proc section..
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    bystander , August 13, 2012 6:35 AM
    mayankleoboy1Typical of AMD : releasing cards without proper drivers.I bet most professionals wont touch these cards until atleast 3-4 driver revisions. These cards are newer, and perform worse than competitions older.

    Did you not read all the benchmarks? In many of the benchmarks it beat out Nvidia's offering by a lot, some were even, some were worse. And they are cheaper than the those Nvidia cards it would seem by the price offering of 4.2k for the Quadro 6000 right on the last page, compared to 4k for the W9000 and 1.6k for the W8000.

    So depending on what you use it for, it may very well be a great choice.
  • 20 Hide
    Anonymous , August 13, 2012 6:57 AM
    Please note that dozens of software companies (all the most prevalent in DCC and CAD) have thoroughly tested and certified the drivers for the W8000 and W9000 cards. This means that users of these applications should not be concerned about driver stability or user experience.

    Yes, this is a brand new architecture and yes, performance improvements will continue to be made with subsequent driver optimizations.
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    ohim , August 13, 2012 7:30 AM
    Even though no one will prolly ever play games on a workstation, this are the first cards to have equal or superior gaming performance over the consumer cards also. Wonder if taking a HD 7970 and possibly mooding the bios for a FirePro one how will it impact the workstation benchmarks.
  • 6 Hide
    Anonymous , August 13, 2012 8:32 AM
    I always wondered how well these cards would do with games, anyone an idea? :) 
  • 11 Hide
    mayankleoboy1 , August 13, 2012 9:14 AM
    ohimEven though no one will prolly ever play games on a workstation, this are the first cards to have equal or superior gaming performance over the consumer cards also. Wonder if taking a HD 7970 and possibly mooding the bios for a FirePro one how will it impact the workstation benchmarks.


    AFAIK, its not possible now to BIOS mod a regular 7970 into a W9000. AMD and Nvidia have become smarter.
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    ohim , August 13, 2012 9:25 AM
    Maybe but it`s quite stupid to have the same engine inside, different body and ask 4- 10 times the price.
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    fuzznarf , August 13, 2012 11:32 AM
    Seriously Tom's?? No Blender benchmark? Still??
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    opmopadop , August 13, 2012 1:10 PM
    I wonder how different the video drivers run under an intel based cpu?
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    shin0bi272 , August 13, 2012 2:37 PM
    Love how you left out the 6 series nvidia cards in your consumer card tests. Very sneaky THG.
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    sam_m , August 13, 2012 3:00 PM
    Have you considered adding Autodesk Inventor to the test schedule? It's an equivalent 3d cad application to SolidWorks but it's DirectX instead of OpenGL and thus would show the need for these workstation cards to perform in both areas. A lot of Inventor users have found benefit in gaming cards over workstation (especially when it comes to performance/price ratio), so would love to see Inventor included in these reviews (as well as some gaming cards to gauge a workstation v gaming performance/price comparison for both OpenGL and DirectX).
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    TeraMedia , August 13, 2012 3:40 PM
    I didn't see any indication of CPU load in the article. Based on the game card analyses that THG has done in the past, I think it's fair to say that NV's cards and drivers tend to put less load on the CPU, which means that these FirePro cards might be putting a higher load on those Opterons than the Quadro cards. And if that load is limited to a single core or is bottlenecked by memory bandwidth or latency, then what you've really done with your testing is handicapped those high-end FirePro cards with a cheap CPU.

    It is possible that the drivers are the problem. The fact that the rest of the playing field members perform consistently relatively to each other while the W series shows outstanding highs in some tests and unfortunate lows in others indicates to me that the new FirePros could be improved substantially in the tests in which they underperform - whether by using better CPUs or with driver updates, or some combination.
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    jaquith , August 13, 2012 3:51 PM
    Excellent review, a tad bias here and there, but overall very good.

    Some benchmarks especially DirectX Benchmarks made no sense to me, but who knows what folks do. It's been long known each of these cards have both strengths and weakness so like any tool choose the right one for the job. Perhaps the next gen will close those gaps.
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    FormatC , August 13, 2012 3:58 PM
    The Unigine Heaven comparison between OpenGL and DirectX is similar to Inventor. This was one of the reasons, to check the "gaming" performance in DirectX.

    But your idea is registered in my database of wishes ;) 
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