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Heat Spreader Design, LN2 Cooling, And Thermal Monitoring

Tom's Hardware's AMA With G.Skill, In Its Entirety
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Q. Most if not all of your ram kits have a more aggressive look or "gamer-esque".Many people who would just like a plain and elegant kit of memory to keep their overall system more subtle looking. Have you ever decided to release a kit with more elegant heatspreaders?

A. The G.Skill Ares and ECO series can fall into that category of a more subtle, elegant looking memory kit. The G.Skill Ares series is one of our latest designs that comes in a 33mm heatspreader with frequencies reaching up to DDR3-2400. Several models have an aggressive look or color because that is generally what extreme users prefer in their extreme build. For the future, we will definitely consider fresh colors and designs to provide a distinctive product. The creative team is always coming up with unique looks, so definitely be on the lookout for the latest G.Skill heatspreader designs.

Q. What other parts you guys make other than RAM? Do you guys have any plans to make other component?

A. As of now, in addition to DRAM, we have SSD and microSD flash products available. We are currently designing and working on several component parts, so you should hear about them very soon. We are always looking to innovative and produce quality hardware for users. Expect great things in the New Year, there will be cutting-edge products by G.Skill.

Q. Based on what you've seen in the lab from DDR4 memory, will enthusiasts be excited about the next generation of high-end desktops or is its tweakability limited?

A. Since DDR4 is still under development, the tweakability is not yet finalized. We're hoping it will provide enough tweakability to allow extreme memory overclocks and break more world records.

Q. Is there any non-ECC reasonable priced ram available that has a thermo sensor in it? If not, have you heard of anything in the upcoming ddr4 to point towards this being in the standard? Currently ram is the only major pc component, in the mainstream, that does not consistently have temperature monitoring available. Is this something you would be interested in pushing for?

A. Unfortunately, no, if there were non-ECC memory with a thermal sensor, then it would most likely have a premium attached to it. DDR4 doesn’t seem to change this fact.Thermal sensors on memory modules tend to be on memory used on servers, where they need to be alerted of any temperature spikes to preserve data integrity and maintain uptime.However, that’s not the case for gaming, overclocking, or consumer PC systems. Therefore, adding on a thermal sensor is an extraneous feature that isn’t useful for most people.We find that it’s just easier to use an infrared thermometer gun for temperature reading during overclocking or testing.

Q. What's the most radical cooling solution G.SKILL has tested on your memory?

A. We typically use only two types of memory cooling: air and LN2. Air, because that's the most common cooling solution, and that we have to ensure all our memory kits are able to withstand its temperature under its operating environment with just cooling on air.LN2 (liquid nitrogen), because that’s just one of the most commonly available liquid gas available to lower temperature for overclocking. (There was an interesting incident involving a broken AC system, and LN2 was used to cool down the office that day.) We don’t use water cooling. And we haven’t tried cooking oil. Yet.

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    masmotors , September 28, 2013 6:08 PM
    im happy with my ares 16 gb 1866 so fast
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    loosescrews , September 28, 2013 6:33 PM
    I wish I could afford to cool my room with LN2.
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    soldier44 , September 29, 2013 6:36 AM
    Love Gskill never failed me over the years, 16GB sniper series 1600 currently.
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    sixsamuraisoldier , September 29, 2013 10:25 AM
    fifth! man, i REALLY want to know when ddr4 is coming out :(  itll impact my plans SOOOOO much!
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    C12Friedman , October 1, 2013 7:01 AM
    This is a great article with some very good info, thanks GSkill and the BoM team. I'm sorry I missed the Q&A session - going to look the thread over now.
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    masmotors , October 1, 2013 6:11 PM
    i still have g kill ddr2 in my 3rd pc
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    COLGeek , October 6, 2013 6:54 PM
    I exclusively use G.Skill in all my builds. I have for years. They have never let me down. Great products for a fair price. It doesn't get any better than that.
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    gskill support , October 7, 2013 3:13 PM
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    fifth! man, i REALLY want to know when ddr4 is coming out :(  itll impact my plans SOOOOO much!


    We are working on platform testing now, you should see some things in the first quarter of 2014 :) 
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    sixsamuraisoldier , October 13, 2013 5:22 PM
    10th thank you SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much gskill! one more question, will we be able to use ddr4 in 2014 or will we have to wait for cpus that support it, and will broadwell support it(prolly not) since its just a shrink of haswell? THANKS IN ADVANCE :) 
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    gskill support , October 14, 2013 1:22 PM
    The first platform to support DDR4 will be Haswell-E. Then most subsequent platforms will adopt DDR4.
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    sixsamuraisoldier , October 14, 2013 8:25 PM
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    The first platform to support DDR4 will be Haswell-E. Then most subsequent platforms will adopt DDR4.

    i know that, but when will they become available?
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    gskill support , October 15, 2013 9:24 AM
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    The first platform to support DDR4 will be Haswell-E. Then most subsequent platforms will adopt DDR4.

    i know that, but when will they become available?


    DDR4 target release is around 2Q-3Q 2014, may depend on Haswell-E release time.
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    sixsamuraisoldier , October 15, 2013 8:21 PM
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    The first platform to support DDR4 will be Haswell-E. Then most subsequent platforms will adopt DDR4.

    i know that, but when will they become available?


    DDR4 target release is around 2Q-3Q 2014, may depend on Haswell-E release time.
    oh..... thats disappointing, i wanted to enjoy the new build beign at teh top since im gonna spend $6000+ on it....