Four Keyboards And Four Mice For LAN Party Gamers, Rounded-Up

The Futility Of Benchmarking Mice

The fact that none of the mice failed our testing was interesting, and it compelled us to conduct yet another set of evaluations. First, we checked for the manufacturer-reported tolerances of each mouse, namely their top movement speed. Razer's Orochi, for example, is rated for the lowest speed at 100 inches/second, and yet even that seemed unnecessarily high to us (particularly given the size of a typical desk). Obviously, you're not going to drag your mouse across your entire desk, and especially not in one second.

So, in order to overwhelm the Orochi, you’d need to drag it across a 10-inch mouse pad, pick it up, move it back to the starting position, and drag it across nine more times, all in the span of a second. In other words, regular movement inside the boundaries of a mouse pad could never exceed the maximum speed rating of these devices.

With this in mind, we wanted to determine the maximum speed of an average person’s wrist movements. To do so, we set up two switches ten inches apart. We then had a subject rapidly activate both switches. The activation time was recorded, and we subtracted the first switch’s activation time from the second, arriving at an approximation of the time it takes to traverse our mouse pad.

The average activation time of the second switch was around 92 ms, with a standard deviation of three. The total measured time was between 243 and 268 ms. Using the lowest recorded value, the maximum recorded speed over 10 inches was around 49 inches/second. This means that there is a huge difference between the speed an average person can move his or her wrist and what a third-gen laser sensor can reliably pick up, record, process, and transmit.

Under normal operation, we're exceedingly confident that you won't approach the tolerances of these devices. You're just not fast enough to cause them to fail. Sure, we're taking a big leap by calling our test subject average. But you'd have to move two times faster to even touch Razer's rating.

Acceleration

Acceleration, the rate at which the velocity of an object changes, is closely linked to speed, and therefore, to DPI. Given that there were no inconsistencies in the output of any of these mice during our speed tests, we can also conclude that they had no issues with acceleration. Still, we wanted to crunch the numbers and figure out why.

To begin, the Razer and Logitech devices are rated for up to 30 G (gravitational constant) of acceleration, and while I couldn’t find any data for Thermaltake’s submission, this doesn't really matter, either. It's important that you understand just how ludicrously high 30 G is. That’s the pull of a planet 30 times as massive as Earth. If you were subjected to that, you would immediately lose consciousness. If you were to free fall at that rate, you would be traveling at over 650 miles per hour within one second. Achieving this kind of force in daily life is utterly unfathomable.
With that in mind, we can start looking at what kind of acceleration that would be realistically encountered. The most basic formula for acceleration is as follows:

a=Δv/Δt

Where a is acceleration, delta v represents the change in velocity, and delta t represents the change in time. Using the numbers we collected earlier, we’re able to figure out that over the course of about 0.15 seconds, the human wrist can consistently achieve an average velocity of 49.6 inches per second. That works out to 1.26 meters per second over 0.15 seconds, or less than 1 G. Again, we should be fair and state that we used average velocity and, as a result the figure we see is an average acceleration. But, it does beg the question, what would 30 G really mean for a mouse? 

Working the equation backwards, beginning with acceleration: 

a=30 G
=294 m/s2 * 0.15 s
=44.1m/s
=1,736 in/s

We’d need to have held an average velocity of over 1,736 inches per second to reach the limits of the device. That’s over 17 times the maximum speed that the Orochi can handle, giving us a pretty clear understanding of how and why our measured acceleration is so low. It is, of course, to be expected that, at some point in those 151 milliseconds, the acceleration of the mouse was greater than 1 G, but if it had hit anywhere near 30, one or more of the mice would have failed our velocity test.

At the 1 ms reports per second these mice make, it is unreasonable to think that they would ever have any serious problems. Modern laser imaging is too fast, and the human body is far too slow to hit those limits without causing serious damage to the mouse itself.

Understanding what it takes to make these things fail, and the fact that they haven't, certainly gives us an enormous amount of respect for the engineering behind today's mouse technology.

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  • "high-quality console graphics"

    Heh, good one Toms... good one.
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  • "high-quality console graphics"

    Heh, good one Toms... good one.
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  • i wonder at what dpi's they tested acceleration. It was my understanding that a lot of mice have acceleration issues at different dpi's. I have seen multiple sources that say the G9 has negative acceleration at low sensitivities.
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  • I've had my g9x for quite a while now, love this mouse!
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  • G9x now down to $55 on Newegg :) I should mention that it was a good review, as always!

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104261
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    Five programmable buttons near the thumb rest, a mechanical button below the scroll wheel, and a battery indicator set the G500 apart from standard mice.


    That should be DPI indicator not battery.

    And whats up with pitting 1 mechanical keyboard up against 3 membrane keyboards? Before even reading the article i knew that the mechanical keyboard would be the clear winner, who would care about the loudness of the keys at a lan party, 99.9% of people would have headphones.
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  • Before I bought my Razer mouse(Imperator 2012), I read reviews on newegg and decided to discount the issue that they seemed to be having. After a few months of use, the mice would start to double-click from a single "click". Sure enough, less than 6 months of light to moderate use, my mouse now suffers from this malady once out of every 20 clicks or so. Enough to annoy me.

    I will not recommend that brand mouse to anyone ever again.
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  • No 6Gv2?
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  • Logitech G9X is a fantastic mouse, been using mine since they first came out, never a complaint and has led to me having very sharp and accurate aim in games like BF3. Buy one it is worth it!
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  • das keyboard professional
    razor naga

    that's my setup...

    that said, sound and weight to press are not lower or higher is better... they are prefferences, i personally love the sound that a cherry blue makes and wish it was a bit louder because i make more sound on each key by bottoming them out apposed to activating the switch.

    and weight, i hear it more often than not that for gaming heavier presses are better because its less likely to accidently activate.

    now, impersonally just because of prior things i have had, i can never recommend razor... but at the same time i use a razor because i want that 12 key pad, and Logitech mouse is even smaller than the already small naga, and i cant get use to its bad form factor... its really the only razor anything i recommend just because there is no other competition that i can tell people to go with outside the small logitech and only if they have small hands.

    also, i dont know if it was mentioned, but the razor keyboard from what i remember has such a strict policy, that if you remove a key cap, you void the warranty. there are story's of the s and j key switched, but because of razors warranty, they have to send it in and get it replaced that way, and its a razor product, you know it will fail... the keyboard doesn't have a mounting plate, so its more likely to fail than other mechanical keyboards because of the solder point stress before the keys naturally give out.
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  • 'The G500 was reported to be too long,'

    I know of course this is personal preference and everyone's different, but either their hands are small or mine are of reasonable size because I can almost cover the entire mouse (fingertips and base of my hand can just about hit the mouse mat at the same time). Unfortunately I don't have much else to compare it to, only random mice however it is larger than any I can remember, so I might just have larger than 'normal' hands.

    Something else you might want to consider that others have found is that the scroll wheel is very 'light' to use. I'm indifferent about it seeing as I'm used to light scroll wheels but a few people have raised that point in reviews that I saw before buying it (~$45 on sale). I've also found that the weights are prety much useless, it's already quite a weighty mouse so an extra few grams really didn't matter for me.
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  • hello,
    i kind of got suckered into this whole gaming keyboard and mouse set up, how it happened to me was for years i had been using a cheap keboard and mouse with my computers, anyway i thought well why dont i treat myself to a new high end keyboard and mouse as this is somthing i have always over looked when upgrading my computer, so off i go to my local PCworld, the first mouse i bought wat the R.A.T 3, looked very different and was on sale at 24.99 uk, was happy with that for the money, bit later i could not help but think about the R.A.T 7 MMO so next day off i go to buy one, got back home and was just stunned by the build quality, looks, feel and infact everything up until i tryed to use it, i had a bad habbit of pressing the right mouse button when i rested my finger on it, also no matter what setup i used i could not find one i was happy with, so took it back and swaped for the razer tai pan :/ ok i know totaly different style of mouse and i will admit i felt a right mug and ripped off after opening the box and thinking did i really pay 74.99 uk pounds for that ? lol :/ anyway yup you guessed it i took that back to lol, by this point i was almost on first name terms with the staff at pcworld lol, finaly let me exchange the taipan for the Kone XTD which im probs 90 percent happy with button layout of this mouse and will keep it, it get worse with me because when i bought my keyboard the first one was the razer Arctosa Black edtion :/ that got plugged in laffed at how poor build quality put back in box drove right back to pcworld gave them an ear full at how shocked i was with this kids toy and is this a joke really? as it was just junk in a nice box. they me let change that keyboard for the roccat isku keyboard, (i decided on roccat again as the mouse i was happy with was good build quality), razer products for me just seem ajoke for the price why do they think they are worth so much money? although are any of them really worth the price they demand? ..
    have i noticed any difference to my gaming after spending a whole lot of cash NO lol
    if ya not that good at games anyway dont think for 1 second these devices will make you play better,although once you learn the 10 million functions your new devices can do there are handy features that i cant live with out now.
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  • Can't believe none of the R.A.T mice were chosen?

    Razer Black Widow Ultimate and Cyborg R.A.T 7 here. I've gone through multiple hundred dollar keyboard/mice before finally settling on these. between the click click click feel of the mechanical keyboard (seriously if you've never had one, try it, it's amazing) to the fit of the mouse with both the thumb and pinky rests fully extended, they rock.

    Never skimp on your keyboard & mouse, you interact with them constantly, make sure you get ones you'll really like.
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  • in razers defence though i do own the razer nostromo gaming keypad, i've owned it for around 3 months and the last month i have started using this over my keyboard, infact i now use this device all the time for gaming, i much prefer the nostromo for gaming now than a keyboard. although it probs has its limits compared to the roccat isku keyboard, the build quality of the nostromo is ok but if they could just lower the price to say around 29.99 not 49.99 uk pounds i would recommend this device to people who love fps not sure how good it would be for mmo ? but all my device's to be honest are limited by the user (me) not the devices themselfs. so its not all crap razer puts out. didnt belkin build that device first though?
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  • I owned the Logitech Illuminated keyboard a couple of years ago and returned it after I found it wouldn't register a shift+W+space key combination. No running and jumping in an FPS is unacceptable. Unless they changed something, steer clear of this for gaming.
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  • None of those are really "Pro equipment".
    Steelseries 6, Filco, corsair K90.... Those are really good keyboards. Blackwidow breaks a lot, has a very irritating sound, and is overpriced.

    Mices... unfortunatelly, best mices are out of production at this point, so you might as well get those.
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  • The G500 mouse has been great for me, but the downside is a sensitive right mouse button that gets more sensitive with use. I do like the DPI switches. Their location makes it convenient to change DPI on the fly while keeping them out of the way avoiding unintentional clicks. The G500 is a great mouse, but could be better if the force required to trigger a right-click were increased a bit.
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  • "So, in order to overwhelm the Orochi, you’d need to drag it across a 10-inch mouse pad, pick it up, move it back to the starting position, and drag it across nine more times, all in the span of a second."

    Those devices operate on a sub-millisecond scale so your time base is completely off.

    You need to drag it across 1" in 0.01 second, which is definitely humanly and physically doable on a 10" mousepad. 100 inches/second may sound fast but it is only ~6MPH, jogging speed. Of course, very few people actually move their mice anywhere near that fast under normal circumstances.
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  • BigMack70Am I the only one who can't stand wired anything? I just flat out refuse to use either a wired mouse or wired keyboard. Went wireless 10 years ago and would never even think of making a wired purchase again.


    I like my wired keyboard and mouse. I can't stand wireless, for the most part...
    but when certain circumstances necessitate it, my $8 logitech wireless mini mouse is great!
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  • the g9x COD edition is $40 on amazon. sure, its has a hideous logo on it, but its an unbeatable value at that price.

    the cooler master quickfire rapid is superior in quality to the similarly sized/featured blackwidow and offers red, brown, and black in addition to blue cherry mx switches.
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  • On the side of caution with the G9x, the plastic on the inside of the mouse wheel is only 1mm thick, so if you get a little violent with your mouse, this might not be the mouse for you. Of course, you could always opt in to buy quick-tite with it, maybe even use a little to re-enforce it before hand.
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