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Benchmark Results: Synthetics

System Builder Marathon: $500 Gaming PC
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The System Builder Marathon team decided to put two 3D Mark Vantage scores in this month for the $500 PC and its GPU PhysX-enabled 8800 GT and drivers. For the first run, we used default settings, which most readers will likely use, while PPU was disabled and hardware PhysX was shut off for the second run.

Let’s now take a closer look at these scores.

The substantial boost seen in the Performance profile comes from the second CPU test, where the physics workload is shifted from the CPU to the available PhysX hardware, which in this case is not a dedicated PhysX card, but our GeForce 8800 GT. For the overclocked PC, the overall CPU score jumps from around 5,200 in each profile with PPU disabled to 26,000 at default settings. Although this doesn’t weigh in heavy in the Extreme overall score, it does in the Performance profile test.

Including both charts allows for a fair comparison of the direct scores among all our System Builder Marathon machines, but doing this also allows us to take advantage of these synthetic benchmarks to look at the exciting possibilities that GPU PhysX offers.

Owners of a GeForce 8-series card or newer who want to experience GPU PhysX now can download the GeForce Power Pack from Nvidia’s site that contains, among other things, the Unreal Tournament PhysX Mod and the game War Monger.

Also, if you want to see if your game of choice is PhysX-enabled (and therefore relevant to this comparison, check here.

The added CPU speeds and doubled FSB frequency give a good boost in the system, productivity, and even the memory test. We see little improvement in the hard drive test, though. These results relate well to what we have already seen throughout our application testing.

We close out the testing suite with significant and rather consistent gains in all three of the Sandra benchmarks.

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    radguy , October 30, 2008 5:15 AM
    Thanks for the article. I always enjoy these sbm builds you guys do. I guessed wrong again but actually think you guys picked a better choice. Nice to know build quality is still taken into consideration even at the 500 dollar range. Also just to mention this again next time noise and power consumption charts please.
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    Anonymous , October 30, 2008 6:11 AM
    "The silicon hard drive grommets"

    That wouldn't dampen much noise.

    Try silicone hard drive grommets
    (They are usually silicon-oxygen based polymers)
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    slomo4sho , October 30, 2008 6:44 AM
    I wish you used the E5200 CPU for this build, current prices reflect a difference of $14 only.

    Also, in the future, would it be possible for you to have two builds for the $500 budget build. One based on Intel AND the other on AMD?
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    xx12amanxx , October 30, 2008 6:44 AM
    I would have spent maybe 30$ on a cheapo case and put the 50$ toward's a hd4850! Most people building a 500$ pc are going to want maximun performance and not care what the case looks like.
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    cangelini , October 30, 2008 6:57 AM
    xX12amanXxI would have spent maybe 30$ on a cheapo case and put the 50$ toward's a hd4850! Most people building a 500$ pc are going to want maximun performance and not care what the case looks like.


    $30 for a case and PSU? Sounds like a build asking for trouble. I personally don't think $80 for a nice chassis and power supply is bad.
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    cangelini , October 30, 2008 6:57 AM
    Slomo4shOI wish you used the E5200 CPU for this build, current prices reflect a difference of $14 only. Also, in the future, would it be possible for you to have two builds for the $500 budget build. One based on Intel AND the other on AMD?


    Heya Slo! We're actually weighing the possibility of simply switching off each month on the $500 system since AMD has some very compelling hardware in that range.
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    slomo4sho , October 30, 2008 7:14 AM
    cangeliniHeya Slo! We're actually weighing the possibility of simply switching off each month on the $500 system since AMD has some very compelling hardware in that range.


    Well in this case, an AMD build might have allowed for a 4850. I look forward to seeing what you decide upon but I still think a monthly build of each platform at the $500 build is definitely something worthwhile.

    Transitioning month to month between the two usually does not allow for comparative annalist in your "Performance And Value, Dissected" write-ups
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    cangelini , October 30, 2008 7:17 AM
    Slomo4shO


    Gotcha. We'll discuss that as a possibility, then.
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    lounge lizard , October 30, 2008 7:34 AM
    I love the article and second the notion that it would be a great idea to run it every month. I for one am a firm believer of upgrading more consistently at a reasonable cost per component rather then just throwing $1500 at new machine.

    At some point it would be interesting if you guys could run an Upgrade Edition of the $500 system builder. Most people that have the courage and knowledge to overclock their new parts by over 50% (wow the E2180 rocks!)would almost definitely have components that they could and would want to swap between rigs.

    Again, great article.
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    reasonablevoice , October 30, 2008 7:37 AM
    king_edgar"The silicon hard drive grommets" That wouldn't dampen much noise.Try silicone hard drive grommets(They are usually silicon-oxygen based polymers)


    What the hell are you saying?
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    JustPlainJef , October 30, 2008 7:55 AM
    Personally, I wouldn't skimp on the power supply. If that goes, you could be out most of your $500 investment.

    Seeing an AMD build would be nice, but I'm not gonna be too upset if it doesn't happen.
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    V3NOM , October 30, 2008 8:18 AM
    Slomo4shOI wish you used the E5200 CPU for this build, current prices reflect a difference of $14 only. Also, in the future, would it be possible for you to have two builds for the $500 budget build. One based on Intel AND the other on AMD?

    i know! im getting a e5200 on the 11/11 (:S bad omen?) cant wait to oc!
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    Anonymous , October 30, 2008 8:27 AM
    Good article,

    I am one of the proud owners of a very similar $500 machine. (though in my case R5000). My only key differences was that I went for a 9600 GT and got a Audigy Value.

    I overclocked it like crazy and can blissfully play Crysis on high at native resolution no problems.
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    Shadow703793 , October 30, 2008 10:27 AM
    Looks good. The E2180 should OC to about 3GHz but usually less than 3.3Ghz (will only Pass P95 for 6hrs at 3.3Ghz). Also use the BETA BIOS on the EP35-DS3L for best OCing.
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    Shadow703793 , October 30, 2008 10:50 AM
    one more thing: Should have gotten a E5200 and a 9800GT. There's a EVGA 9800GT for $100 after MIR on Newegg. See:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130380
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    zak_mckraken , October 30, 2008 12:08 PM
    Shadow703793one more thing: Should have gotten a E5200 and a 9800GT. There's a EVGA 9800GT for $100 after MIR on Newegg. See:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130380


    You have to understand that their parts were ordered at the beginning of the month. The prices of computer parts go down almost every day. By the time the build, configure, overclock, benchmark and publish, prices are bound to go down and MIR or other promotions that wasn't there at the time of ordering may appear.
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    nafhan , October 30, 2008 12:21 PM
    If you aren't going to overclock, and are willing to go AMD... you can make the following substitutions, and get a system that will be alot faster in many games and $40 cheaper (also swapped out the HD, I love the WD6400AAKS) all straight from Newegg:

    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz 2 x 512KB - Retail - $60.00
    Foxconn A74MX-K AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX - $48.96
    OCZ Platinum (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) - $33.99
    ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB - $139.99
    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB - $74.99
    Antec NSK4480B - $80.00
    LITE-ON Black SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - $23.99
    TOTAL: $461.92
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    lambofgode3x , October 30, 2008 12:45 PM
    nafhanIf you aren't going to overclock, and are willing to go AMD... you can make the following substitutions, and get a system that will be alot faster in many games and $40 cheaper (also swapped out the HD, I love the WD6400AAKS) all straight from Newegg:AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz 2 x 512KB - Retail - $60.00Foxconn A74MX-K AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX - $48.96OCZ Platinum (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) - $33.99ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB - $139.99Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB - $74.99Antec NSK4480B - $80.00LITE-ON Black SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - $23.99TOTAL: $461.92


    since you're still about 40 bucks below the 500 mark, add a good cooler and use the left over money to upgrade that motherboard
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    Pei-chen , October 30, 2008 12:50 PM
    nafhanIf you aren't going to overclock, and are willing to go AMD... you can make the following substitutions, and get a system that will be alot faster in many games and $40 cheaper (also swapped out the HD, I love the WD6400AAKS) all straight from Newegg:AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz 2 x 512KB - Retail - $60.00Foxconn A74MX-K AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX - $48.96OCZ Platinum (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) - $33.99ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB - $139.99Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB - $74.99Antec NSK4480B - $80.00LITE-ON Black SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - $23.99TOTAL: $461.92

    You saved nothing. You swapped a good CPU and board for an outdated chip and OEM board. Tom's could save on the CPU cooler & board and go with an E5200 + 4850 and it would whip your AMD build.

    I like AMD but unless you’re building an HTPC, Intel is the way to go. Even then, Intel has Geforce 9300.
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    Pei-chen , October 30, 2008 12:56 PM
    It is nice to see Tom's managed to overclock the 8800GT so much. My EVGA 55nm 9800GT only managed 720 MHz core, 1,728 MHz shaders and 1,065 MHz memory. I paid $100 for the 9800GT + OCZ 2GB PC2-6400 ram so it's a great deal at about $75.
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