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Chip Comparison And Test Configuration

VGA Charts 2008: 101 Configurations Tested
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All cards run at the default clock speed. Only the GeForce 8800 GTS 512 was also tested with overclocking values. We did not use SLI and CrossFire with graphics chips that have an identification of x200 to x400, due to their low 3D performance. The Radeon X800 XT from AMD represents the oldest generation in the test. And even then, since this card only supports Shader Model 2, some games won’t work with it. As a result, we chose not to test the other X800 and X850 models. The Radeon X600 and X700 also no longer make sense with these demanding test settings.

The current GeForce 6 models—the 6600 GT, 6800 GT and 6800 Ultra—lead off for Nvidia. We did not include the in-between versions, like the GeForce 8800 GS, 9600 GTO or 8800 GT with 256 MB. The values of the 9600 GT with 1024 MB can be transferred to the 9600 GT with 512 MB. When comparing the GeForce 8800 GT 512 against the 8800 GT 1024, it is clear that the doubled memory mainly affects the game Crysis with AA enabled, but the additional frames do not play a large part in the overall results.

Nvidia graphics cards
Chip Code name Memory GPU rate Shader Memory rate SPs
GeForce GTX 280 SLI GT200 1024 GDDR3 602 MHz 4.0, 1296 MHz 2214 MHz 240
GeForce GTX 280 GT200 1024 GDDR3 602 MHz 4.0, 1296 MHz 2214 MHz 240
GeForce GTX 260 SLI GT200 896 GDDR3 576 MHz 4.0, 1242 MHz 1998 MHz 192
GeForce GTX 260GT200 896 GDDR3 576 MHz 4.0, 1242 MHz 1998 MHz 192
GeForce 9800 GX2 2xG92 2x512 MB GDDR3 600 MHz 4.0, 1500 MHz 2000 MHz 2x128
GeForce 9800 GTX SLI G92 512 MB GDDR3 675 MHz 4 . 0, 1688 MHz 2200 MHz 128
GeForce 9800 GTX G92 512 MB GDDR3 675 MHz 4.0, 1688 MHz 2200 MHz 128
GeForce 9600 GT SLI G94 1024 MB GDDR3 650 MHz 4.0, 1625 MHz 1800 MHz 64
GeForce 9600 GT G94 1024 MB GDDR3 650 MHz 4.0, 1625 MHz 1800 MHz 64
GeForce 8800 GTS OC G92 512 MB GDDR3 730 MHz 4.0, 1825 MHz 1944 MHz 128
GeForce 8800 GTS SLI G92 512 MB GDDR3 650 MHz 4.0, 1625 MHz 1944 MHz 128
GeForce 8800 GTS G92 512 MB GDDR3 650 MHz 4.0, 1625 MHz 1944 MHz 128
GeForce 8800 GT SLI G92 1024 MB GDDR3 600 MHz 4.0, 1500 MHz 1800 MHz 112
GeForce 8800 GT G92 1024 MB GDDR3 600 MHz 4.0, 1500 MHz 1800 MHz 112
GeForce 8800 GT SLI G92 512 MB GDDR3 600 MHz 4.0, 1500 MHz 1800 MHz 112
GeForce 8800 GT G92 512 MB GDDR3 600 MHz 4.0, 1500 MHz 1800 MHz 112
GeForce 8800 Ultra 3SLI G80 768 MB GDDR3 612 MHz 4.0, 1512 MHz 2160 MHz 128
GeForce 8800 Ultra SLI G80 768 MB GDDR3 612 MHz 4.0, 1512 MHz 2160 MHz 128
GeForce 8800 Ultra G80 768 MB GDDR3 612 MHz 4.0, 1512 MHz 2160 MHz 128
GeForce 8800 GTX G80 768 MB GDDR3 576 MHz 4.0, 1350 MHz 1800 MHz 128
GeForce 8800 GTS G80 640 MB GDDR3 500 MHz 4.0, 1188 MHz 1600 MHz 96
GeForce 8800 GTS SLI G80 320 MB GDDR3 500 MHz 4.0, 1188 MHz 1600 MHz 96
GeForce 8800 GTS G80 320 MB GDDR3 500 MHz 4.0, 1188 MHz 1600 MHz 96
GeForce 8600 GTS G84 512 MB GDDR3 675 MHz 4.0, 1450 MHz 2016 MHz 32
GeForce 8600 GTS SLI G84 256 MB GDDR3 675 MHz 4.0, 1450 MHz 2016 MHz 32
GeForce 8600 GTS G84 256 MB GDDR3 675 MHz 4.0, 1450 MHz 2016 MHz 32
GeForce 8600 GT SLI G84 256 MB GDDR3 540 MHz 4.0, 1180 MHz 1400 MHz 32
GeForce 8600 GT G84 256 MB GDDR3 540 MHz 4.0, 1180 MHz 1400 MHz 32
GeForce 8500 GT G86 256 MB DDR2 459 MHz 4.0, 918 MHz 800 MHz 16
GeForce 8400 GS G86 256 MB DDR2 459 MHz 4.0, 918 MHz 800 MHz 16
GeForce 7950 GX2 SLI 4xG71 4x512 MB GDDR3 500 MHz 3.0 1200 MHz 4x24P 8V
GeForce 7950 GX2 2xG71 2x512 MB GDDR3 500 MHz 3.0 1200 MHz 2x24P 8V
GeForce 7950 GT SLI G71 512 MB GDDR3 550 MHz 3.0 1400 MHz 24P 8V
GeForce 7950 GT G71 512 MB GDDR3 550 MHz 3.0 1400 MHz 24P 8V
GeForce 7900 GTX G71 512 MB GDDR3 650 MHz 3.0 1600 MHz 24P 8V
GeForce 7900 GTO G71 512 MB GDDR3 650 MHz 3.0 1320 MHz 24P 8V
GeForce 7900 GT SLI G71 256 MB GDDR3 450 MHz 3.0 1320 MHz 24P 8V
GeForce 7900 GT G71 256 MB GDDR3 450 MHz 3.0 1320 MHz 24P 8V
GeForce 7900 GS SLI G71 256 MB GDDR3 450 MHz 3.0 1320 MHz 20P 7V
GeForce 7900 GS G71 256 MB GDDR3 450 MHz 3.0 1320 MHz 20P 7V
GeForce 7800 GTX G70 512 MB GDDR3 550 MHz 3.0 1700 MHz 24P 8V
GeForce 7800 GTX SLI G70 256 MB GDDR3 430 MHz 3.0 1200 MHz 24P 8V
GeForce 7800 GTX G70 256 MB GDDR3 430 MHz 3.0 1200 MHz 24P 8V
GeForce 7800 GT SLI G70 256 MB GDDR3 400 MHz 3.0 1000 MHz 20P 7V
GeForce 7800 GT G70 256 MB GDDR3 400 MHz 3.0 1000 MHz 20P 7V
GeForce 7600 GT SLI G73 256 MB GDDR3 560 MHz 3.0 1400 MHz 12P 5V
GeForce 7600 GT G73 256 MB GDDR3 560 MHz 3.0 1400 MHz 12P 5V
GeForce 7600 GS SLI G73 256 MB DDR2 400 MHz 3.0 800 MHz 12P 5V
GeForce 7600 GS G73 256 MB DDR2 400 MHz 3.0 800 MHz 12P 5V
GeForce 7300 GT G73 256 MB DDR2 350 MHz 3.0 666 MHz 8P 4V
GeForce 7300 GS G72 128 MB DDR2 550 MHz 3.0 810 MHz 4P 3V
GeForce 6800 Ultra NV40 256 MB GDDR3 425 MHz 3.0 1100 MHz 16P 6V
GeForce 6800 GT NV40 256 MB GDDR3 350 MHz 3.0 1000 MHz 16P 6V
GeForce 6600 GT NV43 128 MB GDDR3 500 MHz 3.0 1000 MHz 8P 3V

Chip Memory bus Manufacturing process Transistors Interface
GeForce GTX 280 SLI 512 Bit 65 nm 1400 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce GTX 280 512 Bit 65 nm 1400 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce GTX 260 SLI 448 Bit 65 nm 1400 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce GTX 260 448 Bit 65 nm 1400 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 9800 GX2 2x256 Bit 65 nm 2x754 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 9800 GTX SLI 256 Bit 65 nm 754 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 9800 GTX 256 Bit 65 nm 754 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 9600 GT SLI 256 Bit 65 nm 505 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 9600 GT 256 Bit 65 nm 505 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 8800 GTS OC 256 Bit 65 nm 754 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 8800 GTS SLI 256 Bit 65 nm 754 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 8800 GTS 256 Bit 65 nm 754 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 8800 GT SLI 256 Bit 65 nm 754 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 8800 GT 256 Bit 65 nm 754 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 8800 GT SLI 256 Bit 65 nm 754 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 8800 GT 256 Bit 65 nm 754 MB PCIe 2.0
GeForce 8800 Ultra 3SLI 384 Bit 90 nm 681 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8800 Ultra SLI 384 Bit 90 nm 681 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8800 Ultra 384 Bit 90 nm 681 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8800 GTX 384 Bit 90 nm 681 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8800 GTS 320 Bit 90 nm 681 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8800 GTS SLI 320 Bit 90 nm 681 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8800 GTS 320 Bit 90 nm 681 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8600 GTS 128 Bit 80 nm 289 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8600 GTS SLI 128 Bit 80 nm 289 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8600 GTS 128 Bit 80 nm 289 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8600 GT SLI 128 Bit 80 nm 289 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8600 GT 128 Bit 80 nm 289 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8500 GT 128 Bit 80 nm 210 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 8400 GS 64 Bit 80 nm 210 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7950 GX2 SLI 4x256 Bit 90 nm 4x278 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7950 GX2 2x256 Bit 90 nm 2x278 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7950 GT SLI 256 Bit 90 nm 278 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7950 GT 256 Bit 90 nm 278 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7900 GTX 256 Bit 90 nm 278 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7900 GTO 256 Bit 90 nm 278 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7900 GT SLI 256 Bit 90 nm 278 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7900 GT 256 Bit 90 nm 278 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7900 GS SLI 256 Bit 90 nm 278 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7900 GS 256 Bit 90 nm 278 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7800 GTX 256 Bit 110 nm 303 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7800 GTX SLI 256 Bit 110 nm 303 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7800 GTX 256 Bit 110 nm 303 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7800 GT SLI 256 Bit 110 nm 303 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7800 GT 256 Bit 110 nm 303 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7600 GT SLI 128 Bit 90 nm 178 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7600 GT 128 Bit 90 nm 178 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7600 GS SLI 128 Bit 90 nm 178 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7600 GS 128 Bit 90 nm 178 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7300 GT 128 Bit 90 nm 178 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 7300 GS 64 Bit 90 nm 112 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 6800 Ultra 256 Bit 130 nm 222 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 6800 GT 256 Bit 130 nm 222 MB PCIe 1
GeForce 6600 GT 128 Bit 110 nm 146 MB PCIe 1

AMD graphics cards
Chip Code name Memory GPU rate Shader Memory rate SPs
Radeon HD 4870 CF RV770 512 MB GDDR5 750 MHz 4.1 3600 MHz 800
Radeon HD 4870 RV770 512 MB GDDR5 750 MHz 4.1 3600 MHz 800
Radeon HD 4850 CF RV770 512 MB GDDR3 625 MHz 4.1 1986 MHz 800
Radeon HD 4850 RV770 512 MB GDDR3 625 MHz 4.1 1986 MHz 800
Radeon HD 3870 4CF 2xR680 4x512 MB GDDR3 825 MHz 4.1 1802 MHz 4x320
Radeon HD 3870 3CF R680/RV670 3x512 MB GDDR3/4 825/800 MHz 4.1 1802/2252 MHz 3x320
Radeon HD 3870 X2 R680 2x512 MB GDDR3 825 MHz 4.1 1802 MHz 2x320
Radeon HD 3870 CF RV670 512 MB GDDR4 775 MHz 4.1 2252 MHz 320
Radeon HD 3870 RV670 512 MB GDDR4 775 MHz 4.1 2252 MHz 320
Radeon HD 3850 CF RV670 256 MB GDDR3 670 MHz 4.1 1658 MHz 320
Radeon HD 3850 RV670 256 MB GDDR3 670 MHz 4.1 1658 MHz 320
Radeon HD 3650 CF RV635 512 MB GDDR3 725 MHz 4.1 1602 MHz 120
Radeon HD 3650 RV635 512 MB GDDR3 725 MHz 4.1 1602 MHz 120
Radeon HD 3470 RV620 256 MB GDDR3 796 MHz 4.1 1886 MHz 40
Radeon HD 3450 RV620 256 MB DDR2 594 MHz 4.1 990 MHz 40
Radeon HD 2900 XT CF R600 512 MB GDDR3 743 MHz 4.0 1656 MHz 320
Radeon HD 2900 XT R600 512 MB GDDR3 743 MHz 4.0 1656 MHz 320
Radeon HD 2600 XT CF RV630 512 MB GDDR3 800 MHz 4.0 1400 MHz 120
Radeon HD 2600 XT RV630 512 MB GDDR3 800 MHz 4.0 1400 MHz 120
Radeon HD 2600 XT RV630 256 MB GDDR4 800 MHz 4.0 2200 MHz 120
Radeon HD 2600 Pro CF RV630 256 MB GDDR3 600 MHz 4.0 1400 MHz 120
Radeon HD 2600 Pro RV630 256 MB GDDR3 600 MHz 4.0 1400 MHz 120
Radeon HD 2400 XT RV610 256 MB GDDR3 700 MHz 4.0 1400 MHz 40
Radeon HD 2400 Pro RV610 256 MB DDR2 525 MHz 4.0 800 MHz 40
Radeon X1950 XTX CF R580+ 512 MB GDDR4 650 MHz 3.0 2000 MHz 48P 8V
Radeon X1950 XTX R580+ 512 MB GDDR4 650 MHz 3.0 2000 MHz 48P 8V
Radeon X1950 XTR580+ 256 MB GDDR3 625 MHz 3.0 1800 MHz 48P 8V
Radeon X1950 ProRV570 256 MB GDDR3 575 MHz 3.0 1380 MHz 36P 8V
Radeon X1950 GT RV570 256 MB GDDR3 500 MHz 3.0 1200 MHz 36P 8V
Radeon X1900 XT CF R580 512 MB GDDR3 625 MHz 3.0 1450 MHz 48P 8V
Radeon X1900 XT R580 512 MB GDDR3 625 MHz 3.0 1450 MHz 48P 8V
Radeon X1900 XT R580 256 MB GDDR3 625 MHz 3.0 1450 MHz 48P 8V
Radeon X1900 GT R580 256 MB GDDR3 575 MHz 3.0 1188 MHz 36P 8V
Radeon X1800 XT R520 512 MB GDDR3 631 MHz 3.0 1504 MHz 16P 8V
Radeon X1800 XT R520 256 MB GDDR3 621 MHz 3.0 1494 MHz 16P 8V
Radeon X1800 XL R520 256 MB GDDR3 500 MHz 3.0 990 MHz 16P 8V
Radeon X1800 GTO R520 256 MB GDDR3 500 MHz 3.0 990 MHz 16P 8V
Radeon X1650 XT RV560 256 MB GDDR3 575 MHz 3.0 1350 MHz 24P 8V
Radeon X1650 Pro RV530 256 MB GDDR3 594 MHz 3.0 1378 MHz 12P 5V
Radeon X1600 XT CF RV530 256 MB GDDR3 581 MHz 3.0 1368 MHz 12P 5V
Radeon X1600 XTRV530 256 MB GDDR3 581 MHz 3.0 1368 MHz 12P 5V
Radeon X1600 Pro CF RV530 256 MB DDR2 500 MHz 3.0 784 MHz 12P 5V
Radeon X1600 Pro RV530 256 MB DDR2 500 MHz 3.0 784 MHz 12P 5V
Radeon X1300 XT RV530 256 MB GDDR3 587 MHz 3.0 1378 MHz 12P 5V
Radeon X1300 Pro RV515 128 MB GDDR3 594 MHz 3.0 990 MHz 4P 2V
Radeon X1300 RV515 256 MB DDR2 446 MHz 3.0 496 MHz 4P 2V
Radeon X800 XT R423 256 MB GDDR3 506 MHz 2.0 1000 MHz 16P 6V

Chip Memory bus Manufacturing process Transistors Interface
Radeon HD 4870 CF 256 Bit 55 nm 965 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 4870 256 Bit 55 nm 965 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 4850 CF 256 Bit 55 nm 965 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 4850 256 Bit 55 nm 965 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3870 4CF 4x256 Bit 55 nm 4x666 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3870 3CF 3x256 Bit 55 nm 3x666 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3870 X2 2x256 Bit 55 nm 2x666 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3870 CF 256 Bit 55 nm 666 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3870 256 Bit 55 nm 666 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3850 CF 256 Bit 55 nm 666 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3850 256 Bit 55 nm 666 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3650 CF 128 Bit 55 nm 378 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3650 128 Bit 55 nm 378 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3470 64 Bit 55 nm 181 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 3450 64 Bit 55 nm 181 MB PCIe 2.0
Radeon HD 2900 XT CF 512 Bit 80 nm 720 MB PCIe 1
Radeon HD 2900 XT 512 Bit 80 nm 720 MB PCIe 1
Radeon HD 2600 XT CF 128 Bit 65 nm 390 MB PCIe 1
Radeon HD 2600 XT 128 Bit 65 nm 390 MB PCIe 1
Radeon HD 2600 XT 128 Bit 65 nm 390 MB PCIe 1
Radeon HD 2600 Pro CF 128 Bit 65 nm 390 MB PCIe 1
Radeon HD 2600 Pro 128 Bit 65 nm 390 MB PCIe 1
Radeon HD 2400 XT 64 Bit 65 nm 180 MB PCIe 1
Radeon HD 2400 Pro 64 Bit 65 nm 180 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1950 XTX CF 256 Bit 90 nm 384 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1950 XTX 256 Bit 90 nm 384 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1950 XT 256 Bit 90 nm 384 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1950 Pro 256 Bit 80 nm 330 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1950 GT 256 Bit 80 nm 330 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1900 XT CF 256 Bit 90 nm 384 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1900 XT 256 Bit 90 nm 384 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1900 XT 256 Bit 90 nm 384 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1900 GT 256 Bit 90 nm 384 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1800 XT 256 Bit 90 nm 321 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1800 XT 256 Bit 90 nm 321 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1800 XL 256 Bit 90 nm 321 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1800 GTO 256 Bit 90 nm 321 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1650 XT 128 Bit 80 nm 330 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1650 Pro 128 Bit 90 nm 157 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1600 XT CF 128 Bit 90 nm 157 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1600 XT 128 Bit 90 nm 157 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1600 Pro CF 128 Bit 90 nm 157 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1600 Pro 128 Bit 90 nm 157 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1300 XT 128 Bit 90 nm 157 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1300 Pro 64 Bit 90 nm 105 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X1300 128 Bit 90 nm 105 MB PCIe 1
Radeon X800 XT 256 Bit 130 nm 120 MB PCIe 1

Memory rate = DDR clock rate doubled; physical rate is half
DDR5 clock rate quadrupled; physical rate is one quarter
SPs= Stream Processors; P and V = Pixel shader and Vertex shader
TC = Turbo Cache
HM = Hyper Memory
OC = overclocked (clock rate higher than default)
SLI = Parallel operation with 2 Nvidia cards
3SLI = Parallel operation with 3 Nvidia graphics chips
4SLI = Parallel operation with 4 Nvidia graphics chips
CF = CrossFire, parallel operation with 2 AMD cards
3CF = CrossFire, parallel operation with 3 AMD graphics chips
4CF = CrossFire, parallel operation with 4 AMD graphics chips
R680 = 2xRV670
Shader 2.0 = DirectX 9.0; 3.0 = DirectX 9.0c; 4.0 = DirectX 10; Shader 4.1 = DirectX 10.1

Nvidia single graphics cards; AMD single and CrossFire graphics cards
CPU Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 @ 2.93 GHz (11x 266 MHz),
Socket 775, 1.28 V, 65 nm, 4096 KB L2 cache
FSB 1066 MHz (4x 266 MHz)
Motherboard Asus P5E3 Deluxe, PCIe 2.0 2x16, ICH9R
Chipset Intel X38
Memory 2x 1 GB, Ballistix (Crucial Technology) 1.5 V,
DDR3 1066 7-7-7-20 (2x 533 MHz)
Audio Intel High Definition Audio
LAN Intel 1000 Pro
Drives Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500 GB, SATA, 16 MB cache,
Hitachi 120 GB, SATA, 8 MB cache
DVD Gigabyte GO-D1600C
Power Supply CoolerMaster RS-850-EMBA 850 W

Nvidia SLI graphics cards
Motherboard Asus P5N-T Deluxe, PCIe 2.0 2x16
Chipset Nvidia nforce 780i SLI
Memory 2x1 GB, A-Data Technology 1.8 V, DDR2 800 5-5-5-18 (2x 400 MHz)
Audio ADI 1988B SoundMax
LAN Marvell 88E1116 Gigabit

Drivers & Configuration
Graphics AMD Catalyst 8.6
Nvidia Forceware 175.16, GTX 260 and GTX 280 Forceware 177.39
Operating system Windows Vista Enterprise SP1
DirectX 10 and 10.1
Chipset driver X38 Intel 8.3.1.1009
780i Nvidia nforce 9.64

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    rocky1234 , September 15, 2008 6:58 AM
    Not to nit pick but ummm where is the Radeon 4870x2 2GB card in those charts or did I miss it you know the one with 2GB memory umm 800x2 shaders GDDR5 memory 3.6Ghz rated at & 750 core x2 whatever.
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    chise1 , September 15, 2008 6:17 AM
    Thanks guys!
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    amdfangirl , September 15, 2008 6:30 AM
    Very good! Thanks guys!

    If only you tested F@H PPD...
  • 11 Hide
    rocky1234 , September 15, 2008 6:58 AM
    Not to nit pick but ummm where is the Radeon 4870x2 2GB card in those charts or did I miss it you know the one with 2GB memory umm 800x2 shaders GDDR5 memory 3.6Ghz rated at & 750 core x2 whatever.
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    c0d3r , September 15, 2008 7:02 AM
    So totally Awesome :D  Gooood Job THG! What wud i do without u !
  • 8 Hide
    Mathos , September 15, 2008 7:04 AM
    Just curious. Why is it you're using catalyst 8.6 for the ATI cards which doesn't have proper support for the 4000 series cards, instead of 8.7 or 8.8? Yet for the Nvidia cards, you use the most up to date drivers.
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    cangelini , September 15, 2008 7:22 AM
    Rocky1234Not to nit pick but ummm where is the Radeon 4870x2 2GB card in those charts or did I miss it you know the one with 2GB memory umm 800x2 shaders GDDR5 memory 3.6Ghz rated at & 750 core x2 whatever.


    As mentioned in the charts introduction, these numbers take hours upon hours to compile, which means setting cut-offs for the product submissions and drivers. Unfortunately, the X2 didn't make it. However, there are results for a pair of 4870s in CrossFire, which is a roughly equivalent configuration. You'll also notice that there are no 4600-series Radeons. Again, same issue.
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    ossie , September 15, 2008 7:37 AM
    Why do I have the impression that at THG is a persistent confusion between power and energy?
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    JeanLuc , September 15, 2008 8:45 AM
    Great job, I'm always pointing people to the charts now they can compare the latest hardware.

    The charts also show the difference between games they are coded well and ones that aren't. Compare Crysis (very high quality) and HL2 Ep2 at 1920 x 1200 4xAA 8xAF, on Crysis even the best hardware left begging for mercy at around 24fps, yet HL2 EP2 which looks just as good (graphically speaking) IMO will run at 30 FPS on a 8600 GTS (yes an 8600 GTS!) and X1800XL. A small portion of the difference can be put down to DX10 but not all of it.
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    Anonymous , September 15, 2008 9:36 AM
    Wonder why you insist on using catalyst 8.6 - a 3/4 months old driver, out *before* the whole HD4xx0 series and not really supporting it. And by the time the 48x0 cards were released you also had a better driver with actual support the the cards (and some 10% performance boost).
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    buzzlightbeer , September 15, 2008 9:51 AM
    OMFG they did it again, why oh why did they use 8.6 drivers didnt they learn from all the annoyed people from the last test
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    Anonymous , September 15, 2008 10:22 AM
    ATI fanboys have only a reason to whine, if and only IF Tom's used a more recent Nvidia drivers than ATI's (something i don't know)

    Otherwise just shut up
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    randomizer , September 15, 2008 10:55 AM
    As a suggestion for permalinking chart comparisons, add an option for permalinking that doesn't contain HTML code. Some forums don't allow posting HTML. Also, using the URL in the browser address bar doesn't work because it contains square brackets, and I think the software tries to parse part of the URL as BBCode and this breaks the link. Otherwise it's just because it's non-standard in a URL. For example:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/compare,794.html?prod[2113]=on∏[2118]=on

    The link breaks because of the []. It should point to http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/compare,794.html?prod%5B2113%5D=on&prod%5B2118%5D=on (permalink with HTML removed).
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    Pei-chen , September 15, 2008 11:07 AM
    I think for stability reason and to act as control, Tom's won't overclock the CPU but for a lot of these cards, 2.93GHz isn't enough. An e8600 would do a better job, let alone an overclocked 4.5GHz e8600.
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    JAYDEEJOHN , September 15, 2008 11:08 AM
    Glad to see you mentioned the cpu restrictions. At 3Ghz, its simply not enough for todays cards, especially in CF/SLI. Great to see this, this is a long awaited achievement which only puts a + in the Toms site. Great going
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    JAYDEEJOHN , September 15, 2008 11:15 AM
    jaydeejohnGlad to see you mentioned the cpu restrictions. At 3Ghz, its simply not enough for todays cards, especially in CF/SLI. Great to see this, this is a long awaited achievement which only puts a + in the Toms site. Great going

    Some people are under the impression todays cpus are good enough at their stock speeds. We need more truth about this out there so people understand. I wish for newer updates with newer drivers as they come down the chute, especially when the cards are out and for sale. I hope it isnt too long before we see an update
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    randomizer , September 15, 2008 11:34 AM
    My E6600 @2.7GHz is sufficient I tell you!
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    swampthug , September 15, 2008 11:57 AM
    Okay, how does the single most powerful graphics card not make the 'cut-off'? If you've already spent 500 hours doing these benchmarks then what's the problem with spending a couple more? Man, that's annoying. How can you say the 4870 crossfire is similar enough to the 4870 x2 to justify not testing? The x2 has 2x the amount of GDDR5 memory. Stupid...
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    spaztic7 , September 15, 2008 11:57 AM
    cangelini


    I disagree that 2 4870 = 1 4870x2. You do see a slight bump in performance with a 4870x2 over 2x4870. Then 4600 just came out, so you have an excuse for those, but not the 4870x2. Although I doubt my comments will be taken seriously and nothing will come of it, I am just amazed that THG refuses to use a 4870x2. It’s almost like you guys are biased against that card.

    It just makes me mad... >:|
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    kitsilencer , September 15, 2008 12:10 PM
    Ah, the long looked-for update. A little late, but much welcomed all the same. Thanks.
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    phantom93 , September 15, 2008 12:12 PM
    al the 4860x2 is, is crossfire 4870s with more ram.... not gonna give out much more then reg crossfire 4870s.....

    TH had their reasons for doign what the did.
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