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Building With The PC-Q08

DTX Lives! Four Double-Slot Cases For ITX Gaming Machines
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Factor- equipped with external USB 3.0 front-panel leads, the PC-Q08 includes a slot adapter for I/O panel pass-through. Lian-Li adds an external USB 3.0 plug to internal USB 2.0 header adapter, along with a replacement drive cage support bracket, cable ties, and mounting screws.

Though we’re sorely disappointed not to find any internal USB 3.0 header support, this particular case predates its introduction. Having said that, we still wish Lian-Li had taken the time to update this model to support newer hardware.

The bracket from the above kit replaces the PC-Q08’s lower drive cage to allow mid-sized and longer cards, such as our GeForce GTX 560 Ti, to be installed. It uses the screws from the original drive cage.

A single thumb screw releases the upper drive cage from the external drive bay, easing access for its mounting screws.

Lian-Li leaves enough space between the optical drive and the bottom of its tray to install a 2.5” drive, adding mounting holes to this unusual location.

Removable motherboard trays often add expense without doing much to reduce build time, but Lian-Li’s “removable tray” is actually an external side panel. The company even makes its front-panel leads long enough to install prior to reattaching this panel.

Lacking any egress holes for the USB 3.0 I/O panel to front-panel extension cables, we routed these through the card holder’s hole. Threaded holes in the card bracket allowed traditional screw-mounting with the hold-down bracket removed.

Note that we ended up plugging the cables into USB 2.0 ports. The manufacturer of our motherboard made the unusual design decision to put its USB 3.0 ports at the top of the I/O section, and the PC-Q08’s cables simply wouldn’t reach that far. Rather than revert to internal ports, we decided to represent a more common build by placing these cables into a typical motherboard’s USB 3.0 port positions.

The finished system is softly lit by its blue LED fan, though the brighter power button can be somewhat distracting in dark rooms. Because of the bright power button, the PC-Q08 is probably better for gamers than it would be for home theater users.

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    iam2thecrowe , March 16, 2011 5:35 AM
    the silverstone sg06b is the only one that looks any good (not great though). the rest are just plain ugly.
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    Darkerson , March 16, 2011 5:39 AM
    iam2thecrowethe silverstone sg06b is the only one that looks any good (not great though). the rest are just plain ugly.

    Opinion = Fact?

    Anyway, I actually like Cubitek's case. Sure, it looks like it would be a pain to make changes to when doing upgrades or whatnot, but nothing is perfect. If it had a handle on top or something, Id probably use it for LAN parties and the such.
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    hmp_goose , March 16, 2011 6:17 AM
    Pst: Guys! Ya' flip the plexglass vent on the SG07! http://www.maximumpc.com/article/how-tos/how_build_ultimate_small-form-factor_gaming_pc?page=0,1
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    Crashman , March 16, 2011 6:36 AM
    hmp_goosePst: Guys! Ya' flip the plexglass vent on the SG07! http://www.maximumpc.com/article/h [...] c?page=0,1
    Thanks! But if you're building a new system...better still, use a single-fan GPU cooler and the foam air guide! Imagine this beast with a GTX 580!
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    gti88 , March 16, 2011 6:44 AM
    Nice article. Very informative.
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    Anonymous , March 16, 2011 8:34 AM
    Oh wow, lets reinvent a box that holds computer parts, accomplishing the exact same thing all other computer cases before it did, only this version will suck a little bit harder.
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    Crashman , March 16, 2011 9:09 AM
    m84092Oh wow, lets reinvent a box that holds computer parts, accomplishing the exact same thing all other computer cases before it did, only this version will suck a little bit harder.
    So, you're saying you'd have preferred an AT desktop case roundup?
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    Onus , March 16, 2011 9:16 AM
    I would like to have seen the PC-Q08 tested with the blower-style cooler. I cannot imagine how that could have been omitted.
    Otherwise, it was an interesting read.
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    Crashman , March 16, 2011 9:36 AM
    jtt283I would like to have seen the PC-Q08 tested with the blower-style cooler. I cannot imagine how that could have been omitted. Otherwise, it was an interesting read.
    The PC-Q08 didn't fail.
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    Anonymous , March 16, 2011 12:54 PM
    and the advantage of any of these over a "lunchbox" style mATX case is?
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    K2N hater , March 16, 2011 12:54 PM
    These rigs aren't only way better to carry around but also look awesome on the table. Wondering if the noise is bearable with a 6990 installed...
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    stingstang , March 16, 2011 1:04 PM
    It doesn't matter how small the case is for desktop portability. Put a handle on any ATX case and there ya go. What matters is all the cables, monitors, and speakers, keyboards, and mice you have to lug around with it. If there's a better solution for cable management then zip ties around, these cases would be more useless than they already are. Better looking, too.
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    nukemaster , March 16, 2011 1:12 PM
    With some tweaks you can get a Geminii S(you have to re-drill the mounting bracket on some, not others) with a low profile fan and 2 3.5 inch drives :) 

    Or 1 drive and a normal fan(take a bit of work.)

    http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1414/dsc0348n.jpg
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    pletopia , March 16, 2011 1:20 PM
    whats the largest video card that will fit in the SG07? The website says 5970 will fit but i'm more interested to know which 6xxx radeon i'd be able to stuff in there. Have been planning on building a rig with that case since Sandy Bridge came out, only the chipset snafu has me waiting on the sidelines atm.
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    Crashman , March 16, 2011 1:41 PM
    pletopiawhats the largest video card that will fit in the SG07? The website says 5970 will fit but i'm more interested to know which 6xxx radeon i'd be able to stuff in there. Have been planning on building a rig with that case since Sandy Bridge came out, only the chipset snafu has me waiting on the sidelines atm.
    6970 and GTX 580 both fit, the dimensions are on Page 1!
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    Crashman , March 16, 2011 1:48 PM
    nukemasterWith some tweaks you can get a Geminii S(you have to re-drill the mounting bracket on some, not others) with a low profile fan and 2 3.5 inch drives Or 1 drive and a normal fan(take a bit of work.)http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1414/dsc0348n.jpg
    That really depends on two other things that have nothing to do with height:
    1.) The motherboard used (as well as most other LGA 1155 boards) only has room for a 100mm cooler. For a 120mm cooler to fit, it has to be 10mm off-center, away from the graphics cards.
    2.) Additional offset (more than 10mm) is required for any heat pipes that protrude from the "short" side.

    Tom's Hardware should probably do a cooler roundup to figure out which low-profile designs actually fit this type of motherboard without blocking off the graphics card slot.
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    nukemaster , March 16, 2011 1:56 PM
    Quote:
    That really depends on two other things that have nothing to do with height:
    1.) The motherboard used (as well as most other LGA 1155 boards) only has room for a 100mm cooler. For a 120mm cooler to fit, it has to be 10mm off-center, away from the graphics cards.
    2.) Additional offset (more than 10mm) is required for any heat pipes that protrude from the "short" side.

    Tom's Hardware should probably do a cooler roundup to figure out which low-profile designs actually fit this type of motherboard without blocking off the graphics card slot.

    Its an H55 board(H55N USB3), so same spacing as yours(or damn close) :) 

    AXP 140 fits without mods(unless there are components on the back of the board that get in the way)
    Samuel 17 fits

    It is said that the Shuriken(not the big shuriken) fits as well.

    Or my first cooler for my MCE system. The stock Core2 cooler with bolts/nuts and rubber spacers.
    http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3787/dsc0225zv.jpg

    I do think you should do a review for heatsinks that fit in SFF cases....
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    ta152h , March 16, 2011 1:56 PM
    The point about BTX is ill-informed. There were actually a LOT of BTX form factors sold; massive amounts. They were often sold by makes like Dell. So, it wasn't a failed standard at all, it just never caught on in the hobbyist market.
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    Onus , March 16, 2011 2:44 PM
    CrashmanThe PC-Q08 didn't fail.

    True, but seeing how much better it was might help people decide how much overclocking they can do.
    I have a MSI GTX460 "Cyclone" installed in mine. It exhausts none of its heat, which I think limits how well the CPU can be cooled.
    Another point to make is that the PSU can be mounted either way in the PC-Q08, either drawing its own air through the side vent, or helping to cool the CPU by pulling its air from inside the case.
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    dainsane1 , March 16, 2011 3:19 PM
    i do like the lian-li cases. good to see they stack up well. so surprised to see the tiny one win. i jammed a q8200 and a gtx460 into a lian-li PC-Q07B. it took some hacking of the case and just fit the video card. had to add 4x 40mm fans at the bottom and a blower at the top. the thing screams when the fans are at full speed. soon as i can get hold of a milling machine the whole case will become part of the water cooling system.
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