Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in

Radeon HD 7990 In CrossFire: The Red Wedding Of Graphics

Radeon HD 7990 In CrossFire: The Red Wedding Of Graphics
By

We just got our hands on two more Radeon HD 7990s, bringing the lab's total to three. That might sound like the makings of a 1000 W gaming fest. But we cut the experience short when we noticed some crazy-high temperatures and not-so-nice acoustics.

This little write-up is predicated on the notion that dual-GPU cards are best-suited to four-way arrays. After all, why bother with a $1000 GeForce GTX 690 if you can snag two (faster) GeForce GTX 770s for $800? And why bother with a $1000 Radeon HD 7990 if you can find two (faster) Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition cards for $900?

Of course, when I wrote AMD Radeon HD 7990: Eight Games And A Beastly Card For $1000, I only had access to one. Now there are enough cards to pair them up the way these things were meant to be used. Performance wasn’t even my top concern when I got my hands on an additional two Radeon HD 7990s. We already know that dual Tahiti-based configurations run into issues with dropping and truncating frames in a number of titles. AMD knows this too. The company has a driver in development intended to achieve better pacing between frames. I previewed it in the Radeon HD 7990 review, and it looks promising. Today is not the day that driver becomes available.

Rather, I wanted to know how 7990s in CrossFire coexist, both acoustically and thermally. It’s a particularly important question given the three axial fans and sink orientation AMD employs, which exhausts most of the heat out the top of the card and some down toward the motherboard (but none, really, from the I/O bracket’s cut-out exhaust).

Best-case scenario: Two-slot separation and lots of coolingBest-case scenario: Two-slot separation and lots of cooling

Setting Up The Experiment

The ideal test setup, then, becomes a case with enough airflow from the side to cope with two 375 W cards pushing all of their waste heat out the top, a power supply able to deliver the 1000+ W this platform pulls from the wall, and a motherboard flexible enough to give us one and two spaces between Radeon HD 7990 cards.

At launch, AMD was recommending two enclosures to support the 7990, one of which was Cooler Master’s HAF X. It’s a testament to Cooler Master that the HAF comes to highly recommended, and the company was kind enough to send one over for my experiment. In it, we installed Gigabyte’s X79S-UP5 motherboard, a Core i7-3960X, Corsair’s AX1200i power supply, and Noctua’s NH-U12S heat sink. Using an Extech 407768 sound level meter and TM200 dual-K thermometer, we tested the original press sample on its own, a retail card on its own, both retail cards together, and the press sample with a retail card for verifying the findings.  

What we discovered was that two 7990s behave quite a bit differently than one, and adding space between them only prolongs the time it takes for them to get there. While we typically see Tahiti GPUs top out in the 84-degree Celsius range, whether they’re on single-chip boards like the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition or dual-GPU boards like the Radeon HD 7990, three or four minutes in Unigine’s Heaven sees CrossFire’d 7990s slamming up against the processor’s 102-degree protection point. Far Cry 3 outright crashes after heating up to 98 degrees (or, if you stay in the game’s menu too long, it’ll jump up to 102 degrees as well). And 10 runs through Metro: Last Light’s benchmark has the top card’s GPUs at 97 degrees.

Ask a Category Expert

Create a new thread in the Reviews comments forum about this subject

Example: Notebook, Android, SSD hard drive

Display all 88 comments.
This thread is closed for comments
Top Comments
  • 12 Hide
    sarinaide , June 19, 2013 11:36 PM
    Most 7990 buids we have done have been with water cooling, not only is it better for aesthetics HS/F cooling is just not good enough for its full Tahiti cores, underwater there are no thermal issues albeit needing to spend extra on cooling. For a hardcore enthusiast its acceptable.
Other Comments
  • 6 Hide
    hotsacoman , June 19, 2013 10:21 PM
    Hmmmmmm...I see. Runs too hot. You guys are in Bakersfield right? I'll tell ya what. Since we're gonna hit 100+ here anyway pretty soon, I'll shall relieve you of said cards and give you my Lasco standing upright fan. It does a way better job of cooling at the cost of acoustics. Fair deal??? XD
  • 5 Hide
    016ive , June 19, 2013 11:03 PM
    2000$ for a heating system for one room!
  • 8 Hide
    blakphoenix , June 19, 2013 11:04 PM
    Nice and detailed read, I would wonder how they went if you had a side fan on the case (or did I miss that this test did have that)? Love how far you went with getting answers from other companies though, nice to see.
  • 0 Hide
    Combat Wombat , June 19, 2013 11:06 PM
    That 4 min's of gameplay would be worth burning out my new motherboard.

    7990's here I come! Not.
  • 0 Hide
    de5_Roy , June 19, 2013 11:07 PM
    let's see...
    the frame pacing driver that amd said would be available in june, isn't available yet.
    7990 came out over a year after 7970.
    7990(reference cooler) has problems.
    dual 7990(reference cooler) have even more problems.
    titan has high demand, enough to outsell dual gpu cards.
    nvidia has better drivers as of now.
    nvidia let gtx690 sell for a year before launching titan and gtx780 while improving drivers further (and before making fcat available outside *wink*wink*).
    oh.. i forgot about the free games. free games always make problems go away....
    .... nicely done, amd. :lol: 

    i like tahiti(gcn) and it's performance. don't like the injustice amd's doing to gcn based cards. :( 
  • 0 Hide
    Twoboxer , June 19, 2013 11:08 PM
    I wonder if a Silverstone FT02 could keep them from getting toasty :) 
  • -2 Hide
    17seconds , June 19, 2013 11:26 PM
    No big surprise. I wonder how many people actually own a dual 7990 setup. Can't be many, but surely they exist in the hands of owners with too much money and not enough common sense.
  • 12 Hide
    sarinaide , June 19, 2013 11:36 PM
    Most 7990 buids we have done have been with water cooling, not only is it better for aesthetics HS/F cooling is just not good enough for its full Tahiti cores, underwater there are no thermal issues albeit needing to spend extra on cooling. For a hardcore enthusiast its acceptable.
  • 9 Hide
    Arls , June 19, 2013 11:36 PM
    Liquid cooling it is....
  • 3 Hide
    CommentariesAnd More , June 20, 2013 12:01 AM
    This is just why I XFired 7970s for a build I made recently. The 7990 has the worst cooling you will find for a Dual GPU card. The Performance was also less by 5FPS and the issues were much less than what I read for the 7990s review. But games , are the simplest option to make up the loss according to AMD. Plus it was more expensive. Here in India the 7990s cost like 80,000 INR ( 1335 USD ) and that too after searching em for a week , thanks to no stock out here in India. Whereas I got the 7970s for under 60,000INR ( 1000 USD ) Yeah , I felt like LOL! But anyways , Games can make for the difference , but I still wont prefer it.
  • 0 Hide
    yyk71200 , June 20, 2013 12:20 AM
    Ugh... Why did they even bother making this card? Bragging rights? They would have been better spent this afford toward releasing the next generation sooner.
  • 2 Hide
    Soul_keeper , June 20, 2013 1:17 AM
    Excellent article, nice to see some honesty and constructive criticism.
  • 5 Hide
    Memnarchon , June 20, 2013 1:31 AM
    Great article. People that spend $1000 or $2000 only for GPU(s) they surely want to know what they are buying.

    AMD, you are making wonderful single GPU cards. Stop destroying your name by creating dual GPUs with problems. Just stop...
  • 0 Hide
    bin1127 , June 20, 2013 2:37 AM
    I like how the article added in that demand for dual gpu dropped to rock bottom with the release of titan. I'm surprised how many people there are that buys these monster cards.
  • 3 Hide
    Soda-88 , June 20, 2013 3:00 AM
    Idk about the general consensus, but if I was to spend $2000 on graphics alone, I'd sure as hell get at least $400 worth of water cooling to make sure my entire rig doesn't melt/catch fire.
  • 1 Hide
    sarinaide , June 20, 2013 3:12 AM
    Quote:
    let's see...
    the frame pacing driver that amd said would be available in june, isn't available yet.
    7990 came out over a year after 7970.
    7990(reference cooler) has problems.
    dual 7990(reference cooler) have even more problems.
    titan has high demand, enough to outsell dual gpu cards.
    nvidia has better drivers as of now.
    nvidia let gtx690 sell for a year before launching titan and gtx780 while improving drivers further (and before making fcat available outside *wink*wink*).
    oh.. i forgot about the free games. free games always make problems go away....
    .... nicely done, amd. :lol: 

    i like tahiti(gcn) and it's performance. don't like the injustice amd's doing to gcn based cards. :( 


    New Zealand was out before Malta, just never official, but unlike most Dual GPU's it was an experiment at putting uncapped top line GPU's on a single PCB, but clearly the power demand moreover the heat is to high for fully fledged Tahiti XT cores to be thrown on at once.

    New drivers will release soon so the point is moot.

    Nvidia drivers, the ones that saw a vastly superior GTX680 at launch end up around 10% slower than the 7970 after new catalyst drivers. To me the only thing AMD are doing wrong is releasing sea Islands in such close proximity to Volcanic Islands early next year but can't say you are not spoiled for choice.

  • -6 Hide
    scrumworks , June 20, 2013 3:23 AM
    A full GPU article without any benchmarks, just for dissing AMD. Tom's continues with the good ol' bias.
  • 1 Hide
    Memnarchon , June 20, 2013 4:05 AM
    Quote:
    Nvidia drivers, the ones that saw a vastly superior GTX680 at launch end up around 10% slower than the 7970 after new catalyst drivers.


    You are being confused with the 7970GE. GTX680 is still better than 7970 non-GE. When GTX680 was launched GE didn't exist. That's why AMD released GE anyway in order to take the single performance crown back.
  • 4 Hide
    ubercake , June 20, 2013 4:08 AM
    If I were AMD, I'd start to take the issues extremely seriously. First, they need to fix their microstutter issues across the board for single gpu and especially crossfire setups where it's more pronounced.

    After that, they can focus on producing something that uses crossfire tech such as the 7990s.

    I mean... If you produce a product that relies on flawed tech (microstutter in crossfire), fix the flawed tech, then produce the product (7990). It's like a house made of straw.

    Consumers need competition in this space. I want to have choices when it comes to multi-card setups. Currently, there's only one company that produces a consistently solid multi-card solution: Nvidia.
Display more comments