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Clock Rate And Temperature

AMD Radeon R9 280X, R9 270X, And R7 260X: Old GPUs, New Names
By , Igor Wallossek

The same challenges that faced us in trying to create a reference R9 280X for our power consumption testing also affect our frequency monitoring and thermal readings. Again, our U.S. and German offices received different partner boards with a variety of configurations. AMD, for some reason, pinned an embargo on those third-party products that expires later, so we’re setting aside measurements of the 280X for a round-up instead.

What we want to illustrate, though, are the effectively-achievable clock rates under load:

While the R9 280X that we adjusted to behave like a reference model can sustain the higher frequencies in real-world gaming conditions, the R7 260X and the R9 270X behave differently. We got the R7 260X to hit an almost-constant 1100 MHz by using the +20 setting in PowerTune, but saw little difference from the R9 270X. Tuning the card’s settings allows us to hit its peak clock rate more often, but that’s still not enough to call its ceiling a usable increase. This is why we’re using the R7 260X with its two PowerTune setups for our thermal measurements.

Temperatures Under Realistic Load

We took our thermal readings in a closed-up Corsair Obsidian 900D with its case fans spinning slowly and an ambient temperature of 22 degrees Celsius.

The R9 270X’s temperature rises and then levels off at around 80 degrees. In contrast, the R7 260X hits a peak value (with and without our PowerTune adjustment) and then backs off before stabilizing. These differences are the result of an evolved fan controller, which we’ll look at on the next page. Both reference cards seem to be designed for a maximum temperature of 80 degrees Celsius, though. By raising the PowerTune value, we’re able to push that boundary up.

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    cangelini , October 7, 2013 9:51 PM
    Hate? The R9 280X won an *award*. I think Tahiti at $300 is pretty much brilliant.

    I wrote one of the least flattering GTX 780 stories out there. I only identified a couple of situations where a Titan made any sense at all. And although the 760 *did* change the balance at $250, that card still didn't get an award. I liked the 770 for the simple fact that it delivered better-than-680 performance for close to $100 less.

    The rest of AMD's new line-up is a lot like what exists already. Again, the 7870 is a better value than 270X. So what are you getting worked up over? The fact that I'm pointing out these aren't new GPUs? They're not. ;) 
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    jimmysmitty , October 7, 2013 9:26 PM
    So long story short, if you have a HD7970GHz then these do nothing for you.

    Best to hold out till the reviews on the R9-290X I guess. But considering the specs I hope for at least 20% performance increases over a 7970.
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    Someone Somewhere , October 7, 2013 10:35 PM
    Would have been nice to see the 770 in there.
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    slomo4sho , October 7, 2013 9:26 PM
    Nothing revolutionary but better prices I suppose.

    The MSI R9 280X Gaming at $299 appears to outperform the GTX 770 at 1600P and is within margin of error at 1080P according to Techpowerup. Not a bad value at $100 less and still overclocks well:



    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_280X_Gaming/26.html
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    jimmysmitty , October 7, 2013 9:26 PM
    So long story short, if you have a HD7970GHz then these do nothing for you.

    Best to hold out till the reviews on the R9-290X I guess. But considering the specs I hope for at least 20% performance increases over a 7970.
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    BigMack70 , October 7, 2013 9:40 PM
    I don't like this new strategy AMD and Nvidia are taking of rebranding an old series at improved price points and then releasing only one new chip at a stupidly expensive price point.

    Are the days of (nearly) annual simultaneous full line GPU launches from $100-500 with a dual GPU chip to follow at $750-1000 really over?
  • 55 Hide
    cangelini , October 7, 2013 9:51 PM
    Hate? The R9 280X won an *award*. I think Tahiti at $300 is pretty much brilliant.

    I wrote one of the least flattering GTX 780 stories out there. I only identified a couple of situations where a Titan made any sense at all. And although the 760 *did* change the balance at $250, that card still didn't get an award. I liked the 770 for the simple fact that it delivered better-than-680 performance for close to $100 less.

    The rest of AMD's new line-up is a lot like what exists already. Again, the 7870 is a better value than 270X. So what are you getting worked up over? The fact that I'm pointing out these aren't new GPUs? They're not. ;) 
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    Shankovich , October 7, 2013 10:01 PM
    Ok Chris, I agree with you, sorry for the over reaction. But I really don't like how nVidia made price increases for some of the rebrands. Looking forward to your 290 and 290X reviews :D 
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    ingtar33 , October 7, 2013 10:14 PM
    i'll take a 7950 at $129 thank you very much (or two). There is a major retailer selling them for that this week. Best buy all year. two 7950s for the price of one r9-280x? yeah... i'll do that all day every day.
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    tomfreak , October 7, 2013 10:23 PM
    Radeon 7790 has true Audio = but not enabled boooooo = as a 7790 owner I somewhat disappointed :(  . Anyone have any idea if we can crossfire 1GB 7790 and 2GB 260x?
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    net_nakul , October 7, 2013 10:27 PM
    By the time a R9 380X comes out, the GCN Tahiti XT achitecture may be 4 years old (assuming end of 2015). AMD better come up with an awesome new architecture by then, considering the R&D time they have.

    That goes to you too Mr. NVIDIA
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    ingtar33 , October 7, 2013 10:28 PM
    Quote:
    Radeon 7790 has true Audio = but not enabled = as a 7790 owner I somewhat disappointing :(  . Anyone have any idea if we can crossfire 1GB 7790 and 2GB 260x?


    you won't want to. the 260 is more expensive, and you'll only get 1gb of it's memory in a xfire with a 7790. (in xfire/sli, the video memory is duplicated on both cards... not shared... so the total memory of the xfire/sli setup is equal to the smallest total mememory on each of the cards. so a 2gb + 1 gb gpu in xfire will have basically 1gb of vram for the xfire setup.
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    Someone Somewhere , October 7, 2013 10:35 PM
    Would have been nice to see the 770 in there.
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    tomfreak , October 7, 2013 10:37 PM
    Quote:
    Quote:
    Radeon 7790 has true Audio = but not enabled = as a 7790 owner I somewhat disappointing :(  . Anyone have any idea if we can crossfire 1GB 7790 and 2GB 260x?


    you won't want to. the 260 is more expensive, and you'll only get 1gb of it's memory in a xfire with a 7790. (in xfire/sli, the video memory is duplicated on both cards... not shared... so the total memory of the xfire/sli setup is equal to the smallest total mememory on each of the cards. so a 2gb + 1 gb gpu in xfire will have basically 1gb of vram for the xfire setup.
    I know crossfire dont add up VRAM, I was just curious if it can crossfire or not since it is diff VRAM.

    the true audio thing is still a mystery. We have to see if this thing really takes off or not. If this thing is at least has a just small success like physyx, I guess I wont mind shelling out just extra $10-20 for it.
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    ingtar33 , October 7, 2013 10:39 PM
    Quote:
    Would have been nice to see the 770 in there.


    the 7970/r9-280x is not competing in the 770's price bracket anymore. the 770 is 400 min... until that price comes down reviewing it against the 7970 would make as much sense as reviewing a 7950 against a gtx 650.
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    cangelini , October 7, 2013 10:40 PM
    Someone, that would have been the next card to add if I had time after getting 10 boards benchmarked in time for this. I'll add to these numbers for the next launch though, don't worry!
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    Novuake , October 7, 2013 11:41 PM
    I am happy with this IF the R290X shapes up to be a decent board at a decent price...
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    blackjackedy , October 7, 2013 11:47 PM
    Quote:
    i'll take a 7950 at $129 thank you very much (or two). There is a major retailer selling them for that this week. Best buy all year. two 7950s for the price of one r9-280x? yeah... i'll do that all day every day.


    What retailer is doing this deal? I've been holding out to upgrade my 5850 for a while now and a pair of these would be a nice little (gigantic) upgrade
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    Novuake , October 8, 2013 12:01 AM
    I hope that the XFX cards are not as poor this iteration of GCN.
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    yannigr , October 8, 2013 12:14 AM
    I am an AMD fan and I am FURIOUS. If I wanted a company that thinks that it's customers are MORONS I would be going for another brand.
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    slicedtoad , October 8, 2013 12:20 AM
    Kind of a boring announcement from AMD but it is very nice to see a price drop.

    It feels like the price per pixel (in games at a given setting) has stayed the same for a while despite the increase in average display resolutions. Which would equate to gaming getting more and more expensive if you like to max the settings. I don't know if this is AMD/NVidia's fault or the game developers fault or both but it's kind of annoying.
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