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Is A SATA 3Gb/s Platform Still Worth Upgrading With An SSD?
By , Achim Roos

Today's fastest SSDs already bounce off the SATA 6Gb/s interface's throughput ceiling. Does a 3 Gb/s link kill the performance of those drives? We run a number of synthetic and real-world tests to assess the damage when you upgrade an older platform.

PCMark Vantage is older than PCMark 7. Yet, it demonstrates more of a advantage favoring 6 Gb SATA.

Western Digital's VelociRaptor manages to score a second-place finish in the media center performance benchmark. Bottom line, though: an SSD, bottlenecked or not, is notably faster than a hard drive's best effort.

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    Combat Wombat , April 21, 2013 9:33 PM
    Far Out! I didnt realise there was such a big difference between my Raptor, and a Samsung's 840,

    Thanks toms, Samsung will get a few hundred out of me next pay day. :p 
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    nukemaster , April 21, 2013 9:35 PM
    I have been using an M4(on SATA 3gigabit/sec) on my older media center as a boot drive and for some games. The difference from the hard drive it replaced was massive. The old hard drive is still great for storing media and files.
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    LordConrad , April 21, 2013 9:49 PM
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    Even With SATA 3Gb/s, An SSD Makes Sense

    I could've told you that. I put a OCZ Vertex 2 in my HP dv6t-2100 laptop a while ago and the difference was like night and day. SATA II is definitely SSD worthy!
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    Onus , April 21, 2013 9:50 PM
    This article measured what was intuitively obvious. My primary system's boot drive is a 3Gb/s mSATA Crucial M4; I've felt no need to upgrade. Just today I put a 128GB 6 Gb/s SSD on an old 790GX board, and the difference is amazing.
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    rdc85 , April 21, 2013 9:51 PM
    IMO It well worth it, if u had the budget... (even it in sata2 mode)

    still the price is the issue...
    hope the price will continue to decline, so it became affordable for (most of) everyone....
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    CommentariesAnd More , April 21, 2013 9:55 PM
    Yes it is
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    jimmysmitty , April 21, 2013 10:00 PM
    Combat WombatFar Out! I didnt realise there was such a big difference between my Raptor, and a Samsung's 840,Thanks toms, Samsung will get a few hundred out of me next pay day.


    Any SSD on 3Gb/s kill Raptors outright. Even my older X25-M does due to the sheer IOPS compared to a Raptor or any mechanical HDD.

    I do need to upgrade but not for the speed, mostly for size. 80GB is not enough even for OS and a few apps. I have messed with everything from a SATA II SSD to a PCIe SSD (Revo 3) and as long as you are on SATA II or better its going to be more than fast enough.

    But that said, I might just wait for Broadwell and SATA Express.
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    coolbz , April 21, 2013 10:39 PM
    DarkSableThis... was a kind of stupid test. Of COURSE an SSD is a good thing even on a SATA II connection.Does Tom's not remember the early days of SSDs, when everyone wanted one and noone could afford one? There was no such thing as SATA III back then, and if SSDs didn't give a benefit, nobody would have payed attention with how expensive they were.


    This article does give very important guideline, where people evaluate different upgrade options. Conclusion is, you don't need to replace a SATA2 computer with SATA3 computer for the mere of SSD speed benefit.

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    slomo4sho , April 21, 2013 10:52 PM
    I understand the desire to pick the best of the best SSD in this test but wouldn't it be more practical to pick the Samsung 840 which is typically 25-30% cheaper than the 840 Pro in this test? If someone is adding a SSD to a dated system, there really isn't any sense in picking the top performing SSD which is bound to be bottlenecked by the 3Gb/s interface.
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    envy14tpe , April 21, 2013 11:10 PM
    Fantastic job once again by the staff at tomshardware. Theoretical vs Real-World. This is the kind of analysis we need!
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    nekromobo , April 21, 2013 11:46 PM
    What kinda queue depths do you get with few virtual machines?

    There could be a test for few linux images + 2 windows images or something..
    This is getting common place, even on laptops. (you can run your company image as VM for example)

    I bet updating few linux VM's will make very high queues :) 
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    ET3D , April 21, 2013 11:48 PM
    Both the SSD's in my HTPC and my desktop are connected at 3Gb/s, because that's what the motherboards supports.

    The conclusion was pretty obvious. In fact I'd say that buying the slowest SSD and connecting it at 1.5Gb/s would still make a significant difference to a PC.
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    ianj14 , April 22, 2013 1:42 AM
    I have an Intel X25-M on an old ASUS P5W64 motherboard with SATA 3Gb/s. When I installed it it made one hell of a difference!

    I'm thinking of putting an mSATA Crucial M4 64GiB SSD on an mSATA to IDE adapter to replace the old 80 GiB 2.5 inch HDD in my old laptop. Even though it would only be working at 100MB/s, the seek times would be worth it alone, but the 2.5 inch drive's 22MB/s transfer speed would be outdone by a factor of 4. Still worth it considering the M4 64GiB models are around 50 GBP, + adapter for around 15 GBP.
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    Hupiscratch , April 22, 2013 4:20 AM
    This article was made for me. I'm still using a Asus A8N32SLI Deluxe, and my RAID 0 2 x Seagate Barracuda 9 are showing their age. Upgrading right now!
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    gopher1369 , April 22, 2013 4:59 AM
    ET3DBoth the SSD's in my HTPC and my desktop are connected at 3Gb/s, because that's what the motherboards supports.The conclusion was pretty obvious.


    Only to you as you already have an SSD and have real world experience. What about people with a SATA2 motherboard who are thinking about upgrading to their first SSD? This article has helped save them money as they now know that they do not need to upgrade their motherboard.
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    reyshan , April 22, 2013 5:10 AM
    Thank You Tom's for making another great article. I was gonna upgrade my board and Ram so that if I get an SSD it wouldn't be bottlenecked. Now after reading this, I don't have to. Thank You again for the info and taking your time on making an informative article like this. To all the ppl that are bashing that its obvious that 3Gb/s is enough for a SSD like the 840 Pro are not thinking. I am one of the many other ppl that didn't know that because we don't have an SSD and we think upgrading our boards is a first before getting one.
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    jemm , April 22, 2013 5:40 AM
    Congratulations for the excellent article!!! :)  It just made my day!!!:) 

    I have a SSD (Samsung 830) connected to a SATA 3Gb/s port, even tough my motherboard (P6X58D-E) has 2 x SATA 6Gb/s ports.

    The reason I connected the SSD through the 3Gb/s port, instead of the one 6Gb/s port available is its controllers. The 3Gb/s ports have Intel ICH10R controller, while the 6Gb/s ports have MarvellĀ® PCIe 9128 controller.

    I was told the the Intel ICH10R controller on the 3Gb/s port would be faster than the 6Gb/s ports with MarvellĀ® PCIe 9128 controller.

    I have never tested my SSD on the 6Gb/s port, and I guess I will never will -- or I should?






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    ojas , April 22, 2013 5:41 AM
    Perfmon lists disk queue depths of around 0.5 frequently for my SSDs, and higher for my HDD.

    Apparently, the number of commands actually queued are that reported number x 100, i.e. i'm seeing around 500 commands queued.

    What's up with this? Is this the same queue depth that you guys are talking about? Or do you mean a queue depth of 32 as 3200?
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