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Tyan GN70-K7053: Layout And Overview, Continued

Three Xeon E5 Server Systems From Intel, Tyan, And Supermicro
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Because the KGN70M1 is not a chassis designed with risers in mind, instead utilizing half-height expansion cards, you can see that the rear panel has enough room for six shorter peripheral devices. Often, chassis employing side-by-side power supplies leave room for this exact sort of expansion scheme. Again, this is a fairly standard setup.

Unfortunately, our review unit was missing its metal I/O shield, and we didn't have a spare to match Tyan's S7053 motherboard. So, that space is uncovered.

The rear-panel reveals that the S7053 includes legacy VGA and serial ports in case you need to attach a serial device or monitor into the server. Although KVM-over-IP is fairly widely accepted at this point, the possibility exists that you'll need to make a physical connection at some point instead. Next to those ports, you find two stacks that include a pair of USB ports and an 8P8C connector attached to an Intel gigabit Ethernet controller. Another pair of gigabit-capable connectors sits on the far-right side of the motherboard's integrated I/O.

Tyan really goes the extra mile here in providing four USB ports, rather than the more common pair. If you're setting up a server using a VGA monitor, mouse, and keyboard, that typically leaves little additional connectivity for a driver-laden USB thumb drive, for example.

All four 8P8C female jacks are driven by an on-board Intel I350-AM4 network controller, which is one of the company's newer-generation chipsets.

The board itself features six PCIe 3.0-capable expansion slots, four of which are eight-lanes wide, and two of which offer 16 lanes of connectivity. Tyan uses open-ended x8 connectors, which we wish that more motherboard vendors would do as well. The benefit of an open-ended slot is that they accept x16 devices as well at half-bandwidth, so long as they clear other components along their path.

You can see near the edge of the board that Tyan is using Intel's Patsburg-A (C602) PCH. So, you find two SATA 6Gb/s ports, along with four SATA 3Gb/s connectors derived from the Intel core logic. Tyan also includes an LSI SAS 2308 RAID controller with support for standard RAID levels without parity, which we'd expect from a controller with no associated battery or NAND-backed memory. Because our review guidelines specifically requested vendors not to send motherboards with on-board third-party storage controllers, we won't go into detail on this feature except to mention that the kit comes wired to utilize LSI's controller with the KGN70M1 2U chassis.

Both CPU interfaces are set up for the standard LGA 2011 mounting pattern, which is similar to the LGA 1366 layout. Each processor and its associated memory is placed in-line, but slightly offset (again, standard for dual-socket server motherboards). There are eight DDR3 DIMM slots per CPU, yielding a maximum memory configuration of 128 GB using unbuffered ECC DDR3 memory, 256 GB of registered ECC DDR3 memory, or 512 GB using LR-DIMMs (load-reduced DIMMs).

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    mayankleoboy1 , May 30, 2012 4:53 AM
    the charts are looking strange. they need to be reduced in size a bit....
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    EzioAs , May 30, 2012 5:55 AM
    Quote:
    the charts are looking strange. they need to be reduced in size a bit....


    I agree. Just reduce it a little bit but don't make it too hard to see
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    dogman_1234 , May 30, 2012 6:47 AM
    Cool. Now, can we compare these to Opteron systems?
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    TheBigTroll , May 30, 2012 11:06 AM
    no comparison needed. intel usually wins
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    willard , May 30, 2012 2:08 PM
    TheBigTrollno comparison needed. intel usually wins

    Usually? The E5s absolutely crush AMD's best offerings. AMD's top of the line server chips are about equal in performance to Intel's last generation of chips, which are now more than two years old. It's even more lopsided than Sandy Bridge vs. Bulldozer.
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    Malovane , May 30, 2012 2:09 PM
    dogman_1234Cool. Now, can we compare these to Opteron systems?


    As an AMD fan, I wish we could. But while Magny-Cours was competitive with the last gen Xeons, AMD doesn't really have anything that stacks up against the E5. In pretty much every workload, E5 dominates the 62xx or the 61xx series by 30-50%. The E5 is even price competitive at this point.

    We'll just have to see how Piledriver does.

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    jaquith , May 30, 2012 2:51 PM
    Hmm...in comparison my vote is the Dell PowerEdge R720 http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/poweredge-r720/pd?oc=bectj3&model_id=poweredge-r720 it's better across the board i.e. no comparison. None of this 'testing' is applicable to these servers.
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    lilcinw , May 30, 2012 6:04 PM
    Finally we have some F@H benches!! Thank you!

    Having said that I would suggest you include expected PPD for the given TPF since that is what folders look at when deciding on hardware. Or you could just devote 48 hours from each machine to generate actual results for F@H and donate those points to your F@H team (yes Tom's has a team [40051] and visibility is our biggest problem).
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    dogman_1234 , May 30, 2012 6:46 PM
    lilcinwFinally we have some F@H benches!! Thank you!Having said that I would suggest you include expected PPD for the given TPF since that is what folders look at when deciding on hardware. Or you could just devote 48 hours from each machine to generate actual results for F@H and donate those points to your F@H team (yes Tom's has a team [40051] and visibility is our biggest problem).

    The issue is that other tech sites promote their teams. We do not have a promotive site. Even while mentioning F@H, some people do not agree with it or will never want to participate. It is a mentality. However, it is a choice!
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    lilcinw , May 30, 2012 6:58 PM
    I don't expect promotion at this point, just basic recognition would be appreciated.
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    Luscious , May 30, 2012 9:05 PM
    I've seen a few 2U 4-node blade servers from Asus and Supermicro running dual-socket E5's - just the thought of populating a single 42U rack with those things makes the mind boggle (168 processors, 1344 cores, 2688 threads, 42TB of total RAM and 1008TB of storage).

    F@H on such a monster? Do the math and you'll see that just after one year of 24/7 operation you would rack up over 3 billion points, putting you in the top 10 for teams and no.1 spot for single user.

    That's assuming, of course, that you've forked out $20k for your monthly power bill to run that fully-stocked 42U rack and paid $240k to your utility company for the entire year. Then there's the cost of the hardware itself - around $26k for each 2U server, or around a cool $600,000.

    SPEND MONEY FAST
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    utomo88 , May 31, 2012 12:43 AM
    We need somebody to design new server which is powerful and can handle a lot of memory and harddisk and affordable price.
    all powerful server are expensive now.
    I believe market for cheap but powerful server are big, and no one is working on this area.
    I know the profit is not big, but by big quantity it mean big money too :) 
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    bit_user , May 31, 2012 2:45 AM
    Would be cool to test both a E5 Xeon and a Sandybridge-E of the same clock speed, in the same C602 motherboard (Supermicro's X9SRA), to see if DDIO has any performance impact on 3D and GPGPU benchmarks.
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    bit_user , May 31, 2012 8:11 AM
    Also, how about posting measuring the scaling from 1x 4core E5 Xeon -> 1x 8core E5 Xeon -> 2x 4core E5 Xeon?

    The point is that memory is directly connected to 1 CPU only. Adding a 2nd CPU doubles aggregate bandwidth, but could actually hurt performance, if the software isn't written to carefully to localize data and manage affinity between threads & CPUs.
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    _zxzxzx_ , May 31, 2012 2:44 PM
    Would be nice to see how these compare to the AMD systems.
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    saturn85 , June 2, 2012 6:22 PM
    nice folding@home benchmark.
    great work.
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    centosfan , June 4, 2012 10:14 PM
    Why don't you include HP DL series and the Dell R series. Those two companies have about 70% market share on the 2U Inter server market. I don't understand why you would exclude them. Most companies wouldn't buy anything but a Dell, HP or and IBM.
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    pjkenned , June 5, 2012 7:41 PM
    centosfanWhy don't you include HP DL series and the Dell R series. Those two companies have about 70% market share on the 2U Inter server market. I don't understand why you would exclude them. Most companies wouldn't buy anything but a Dell, HP or and IBM.


    That is something that we are looking at. This was more of a look at what is out there for barebones kits. I totally agree that these types of comparisons would be great.
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    DVFinn , June 19, 2012 8:15 PM
    I've been using Supermicro bare bones servers for a few years now and I love them. When it comes to performance per dollar there's no way to compare these systems with off the shelf dell or HP offerings. I've specced them out 20 ways and the bottom line is I can build nearly 2x the horsepower at significantly lower cost vs. a fully configured server from one of the big vendors. My newest SQL servers are 8xSSD Raid10 data sets and simple sata mirrors for the OS. 128GB RAM, dual, quad-core Xeons, adaptec 6805 controllers. About $5k each for the full build, and their chassis are so easy to work in the whole build takes less than 30 minutes before I'm loading the OS.
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    razor512 , August 24, 2012 11:14 AM
    utomo88We need somebody to design new server which is powerful and can handle a lot of memory and harddisk and affordable price.all powerful server are expensive now. I believe market for cheap but powerful server are big, and no one is working on this area.I know the profit is not big, but by big quantity it mean big money too


    That is already done (but as more of a work around) build a standard PC.
    Many high end gaming motherboards work well in a server environment, and can easily handle a high traffic website.
    Most web hosting does not need a super powerful server (which is why virtualization is so popular). If you are running a relatively small business and are not doing anything that is hugely CPU bound (eg, rendering) then you can save a bit of money with a decent desktop PC.