Should help you make a decision. Same here. Just built a machine w/ a 4000 instead of an X2 3800. On the CPU chart, the 4000 does better than the X2 3800 in all of the gaming categories, and many of the other benchmarks, some of which (like the 3dmark05...

program such as antivir is still dramaticly faster than a 3800 x2 in gaming agreed? now now now not dramatically, either way u go u wotn notice the diff, down to whichever is fastest out of the box for pure gaming x2 3800 or 4000+ the 4000 is because it has...

3700+, (X2)3800+, 4000+?. I want to put together a new gaming pc. Can't decide for the X2 3800+ (Manchester, €369), 4000+ (San Diego, €389), 3800+ (Venice, €318) and 3700+ (San Diego, €249) For gaming the 4000+ seems to be the fastest, but how soon...

game and application engines arrived. It seems premature, or am I overreacting? I'm about to send back my X2 3800+ and get the plain Jane 90nm AMD 4000+ single core proc for the same price. My case is that so many issues seem to gravitate towards multi-core...

go back! Is it me, or is the whole X2 3800+ or 64 4000+ question asked once a week? Overall, being looking at AMD systems as well, it seems the Opertons are better for the money. How do Opteron 165s stack up in gaming performance. Anyone got a link for...

different systems all the time, P4's with HT, Xeon, etc but these systems are all built for work, and I need to build a multipurpose rig (gaming, photoshop, ms office, watching/burning dvd's)... so here it is... Im considering either AMD X2 3800...

if they're similar. Though 3DMark05 does do a CPU test, it's a very, very small percentage of your overall score. Do a comparison of your processor (or similar, like a X2 3800) to his 4000+ using the CPU charts. Pick 3DMark05. Better yet I'll do it for...

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are the components i am thinking about putting in, any suggestions or changes are appreciated. CPU : AMD Athlon 3800+ or 4000+ -- Not sure on this part yet, not sure if the 4000+ is worth the extra money. ($360-$375 for 3800+, $470-$490 for 4000+) Also,...