in 32 bit land? I can't find many details on Barton- I read that although they will increase the L2 to 512KB, it will *still* be at the obsolete 133FSB. Anyone know how high clock speeds are expected to get on this? What about after Barton? The AMD roadmap...

the Barton to 2ghz without blinking, hardly consider it an o/c. The larger die cools better and the larger cache makes it a lock for me. Go for the Barton. -Brett Fine, barton it is. if you feel you will not overclock the tbred IS faster... Proud owner...

but I would be very surprised if it is not. Merely sticking your 8500 into your current PC will greatly enhance your gaming experience and the the processor is matched well for the card. The newer Bartons and 2Ghz+ cpus will spend time waiting for an 8500...

the motherboard. Maybe I'm confused , but it seems like AMD lost its price point edge. In my opinion, AMD clocked the Barton CPUs to low. For instance, a 2500+ Barton runs at 1.83GHz while a 2400+ T-Bred B runs at 2GHz. If they followed the old PR scheme, a...

the model numbers in the first place was to better compare with the P4. If Intel would have found a way to improve upon the P3 instead of launching the P4, there would have been no need. I just look at the numbers. I already thought the Barton 3000+ was...

smile: the tbred's are just samples and to work out the bugs of the .13 micron process. I hear they have barton samples already! My Rig ? :smile: i like toasted cpus but not AMD-inside. :smile: Labdog is mfud, we know that. Corsair is either Labdog...

I never got to unlock that Pally, couldn't find any rear window defogger as a substance. I was unhappy at the lower fsb. So I upgraded to an xp2000 tbred(top dog was xp3200 bartons) that tbred oced to 2GHz on stock cooling, 2.4GHz with an slk-800. I was now...

then boot to your XP installation disc and do a repair. Has always worked for us. My Barton XP2500+ would go up to 2.4ghz. I recommend the mobile Barton since they are not locked. My Barton wasn't a mobile but it wasn't locked either, older version. I did...

it is still 133fsb, and any motherboard which works with the axp will work with tbred. "The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark" No Overclock+stock hsf=GOOD! well i dont expect 166fsb until the start of SIO &barton... cant see it on any 'near future'...