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arsal90

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Irregular stuttering. my system specs are
1. z270 asus prime a motherboard
2. i7 7700k processor
3. 16gb ram kingston 2400 mhz
4. 3 tb hd seagate 7200 rpm (2tb + 1tb)
5. corsair vs650 power supply
6. asus gtx 1070 o8g graphic card
7. cooler master hyper 212 evo cooler

so basically its all the componenets are basically good. but why do my games stutter on high settings at 60 fps locked. there are days when there are no stutters in my gaming however some days it stutters heavily. can someone explain me what this problem can be?? and any component that i may have to replace to get a consistent performance.
 
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I just noticed you don't have a SSD listed. Do you have one? if not get one ASAP and install your OS there. Then you can use your hard drive solely for game installs.

Hard Drives have hard a time keeping up running Windows AND your Games. That's likely why you have stutter problems.
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somethingname

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The key to stutter free gaming is tweaking the Vsync options and not running anything but the game itself with maybe a mp3 player to hear music. That's it no more unless you have a 6 or 8 core CPU.

Some games like Assasins Creed only run stutter free if I run them in Windowed Fullscreen for example. So play around with the Vsync options. Some games/engines will stutter if it drops below 60fps. Game engines are different some run better than others. Depends on the developer also optimizing it properly and patching any issues.

When I play newer more resource hungry games I have to close everything. i7 4 core 4 threads is not enough to multitask and play the latest games. Which is why I will be getting a 8 core CPU soon.

Your PC is always ready to play games stutter free. It's the programs your running in the background eating up either your CPU or RAM or both that can cause stutter/hitching in games.

Check task manager and make sure it's not pegging the CPU at 100% or eating up all your Ram and you should be good.

Keep in mind even if your CPU is only at 70% usage while multitasking and gaming it can still make your game stutter with more demanding games. Some games/engines are just finnicky about it so close everything and you'll be stutter free.
 
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bajgur

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something hogging your resources.
could be AV running in background.

go to msconfig, startup tab and disable everything. then go to services tab check hide all microsoft and disable everything.
give a test run and see how your pc perform.
 
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Stutter happens for a variety of reasons but generally speaking it's because there's a delay in creating the next frame.

*Note that "60FPS" reported often does not mean x60 new frames in one second. Software like FRAPS, Steam FPS indicator etc log the REQUEST for a new frame, they don't log that a new frame was actually created and drawn.

So if you see stutter at 60FPS (VSYNC ON) you are not getting sixty new, full frames drawn.

Some stutter reasons include:
1) VSYNC ON (but can't maintain FPS.. i.e. 60FPS for 60Hz) causing missed frames

2) inefficient code causing big delays

3) Texture streaming from drive too slow (Prey, Fallout 4 with HD texture pack..) may be fixed with SSD but this issue is rare

4) Online (MMO RPG etc) overloads CPU causing missed frames

5) *HDD or other component defective causing interruptions to game processing

So.. ?
It's hard to guess from here and you need to look at one game at a time, preferably an offline game to eliminate online variance.

If you use VSYNC try either:
a) turning it off, or
b) turn down settings a lot

If stutter goes away then you again weren't hitting a true 60FPS.

*In GTA5 the game is smooth at 60FPS VSYNC ON for me but any dips and the game stutters.... VSYNC OFF fixed that but then I had screen tearing so I forced on Adaptive VSYNC to auto disable VSYNC as needed.

NCP-> manage 3d settings-> add game.. (setting) save

Other:
GSYNC monitors can help a lot too but they are expensive (i.e. 27", IPS, GSYNC, 2560x1440, 144Hz+ )
 
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somethingname

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I just noticed you don't have a SSD listed. Do you have one? if not get one ASAP and install your OS there. Then you can use your hard drive solely for game installs.

Hard Drives have hard a time keeping up running Windows AND your Games. That's likely why you have stutter problems.
 
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photonboy

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I didn't mention CPU usage as others did, so to that I'll just say:

a) close any web browsers, and
b) open Task Manager before launching a game to ensure CPU usage is low (i.e. 10% or less), and your system memory is sufficient (i.e. under 8GB used so 8GB+ available)

If I was forced to guess I'd say something is eating up your CPU cycles. It's actually hard to tell since you can be under 100% CPU usage but still have a CPU bottleneck (it's complicated).

It's also possible the stutter you get is NORMAL but I can't obviously see what's going on.

*Some of my games are smooth at 60FPS VSYNC ON, and some have stutter at 60FPS VSYNC ON (and again, it's missed frames).
 
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It's actually very RARE that an HDD is the cause of game stuttering... most games load the required data into both system and video memory with HDD/SSD loading done primarily at game launch, level loads or new areas in a manner so as NOT to cause stutter issues.

If you buy an SSD you can easily MOVE a game to it using Steam (create new Steam folder via Steam library settings..., go to game... move..).

If it doesn't help you can move the game BACK to reserve the space for games where it either helps with stutter or just helps with load times (helps games like SKYRIM that have frequent loads due to dungeons, buildings, map point jumps).

(moving games with MODS must be planned out)
 
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SSD:
If really stumped I would:
1) buy a 500GB SSD
2) unhook both HDD's (and any USB not needed) then add the SSD
3) install Windows 10 64-bit (plan it out... logon e-mail/password, program list to reinstall etc)

4) install the MINIMUM you need (Steam, video drivers..)
5) add back an HDD that has Steam games on it, MOVE SOME GAMES (known to stutter) over to the SSD, then shut down and unhook the HDD again

6) TEST

The above is for the following reasons:
a) HDD stutter due to streaming? (rare)
b) HDD causing system interruption due to failing (rare)
c) Windows or other software issue (hence the clean install)
 
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somethingname

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Why on earth would you buy a SSD just to move games there? Lol It's better to use it for the OS it runs A LOT faster and more stable. I didn't upgrade to Windows 7 until I got a SSD because performance was abysmal.

Some games do require an SSD to run better like open world games GTA 5. It runs like a mess on a hard drive. SSD can even improve fps .. once I moved Crysis 3 to a SSD I was able to finally lock it at 60fps.

Do not buy a SSD just to move your games there, use it for the OS. Then when you run into a problematic game move it to the SSD to see if it fixes it. I generally install games I play a lot on my SSD.
 
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