Well hello me and a couple of you are asking the same thing over and over again, and well no one has done a review or testing with it to confirm anything working so i hat enough of this crap and tested it out on my system to settle for all if it work's or if its just a name straped to a GPU that performs identical to a stock 7750.
The questions are :
Is DUAL GRAPHICS working with an AMD a10 5800k and a AMD 7750 graphics card?
Yes it works.
Will the setup of 7750 and a 7660 give any performance boost to a stock 7750/7660 ?
Yes it will.
How much is the performance increase?
Well that's why we are here to find out .
Software used:
Windows 8 Pro (stock installed, no updates)
AMD Catalyst 13.4 drivers used
3dMark 1.1 (downloaded from Guru3D)
CPU-z 1.64
GPU-z 0.7.1
AMD System Monitor 1.0.9
FRAPS 3.5.99
Battlefield 3 (patch2 applied)
Crysis 3 (1.3 patched)
Crysis 2 (1.9 patched)
The setup:
AMD a10 5800k with 7660D graphics build in
Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4
8gb (2x4gb) Kingston PredatorX 2400mhz RAM
Scythe MUGEN 3 rev.B with 2x Sythe Kaze Ultra (push pull)
MSI 7750 OC graphics card
Mushkin Chronos 60gb SSD (windows)
Toshiba(hitachi) 1TB for storage
400W chieftech power suplie
I had no interest in testing the APU in stock clocks and options, there are al lot of good review's doing exactly that, if is in your interest here is one: http://forums.vr-zone.com/hardware-depot/2616116-review-gigabyte-f2a85x-up4-amd-a10-5800k-apu-madness-review-complete.html
A couple of pictures of the setup without the 7750:
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/8884/cam00027n.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/2825/cam00028g.jpg
And here is the 7750 running in the setup:
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/6940/cam00031y.jpg
GPU-Z screanshot of working dual graphics:
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1073/7660a.gif
Testing method:
3dMark has been run in all combinations and there are 3 games tested, also the Battlefied 3, Crysis 3, Crysis 2, we will have 1 setting for Crysis 2 that was used on all the avaidable options, 2 settings on Crysis 3 (low and mixed very high) and 1 setting for Battlefield 3. The AMD System Monitor was running in the background to check the ussage of both setup's, and if the game really uses the power of dual graphics. ALL GAMES ARE TESTED IN 1920x1080 resolution.
Settings used:
Battlefield 3:
http://imageshack.us/a/img547/6109/bf32013052805572706.jpg
Crysis 2 :
http://imageshack.us/a/img19/8072/crysis22013053000245529.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img19/8994/crysis2sq.jpg
Crysis 3 (low settings):
http://imageshack.us/a/img822/316/crysis32013052805121188.jpg
Crysis 3 (mixed very high settings) identical as above but with :
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/9347/crysis32013052805114876.jpg
There are 2 options to connect the 7750 in dual graphics mode:
1. You plug in the monitor on the discrete 7750 in a VGA/DVI/HDMI port, this will result in a dual graphics configuration that will make the 7750 „primary“ and the 7660 „secondary“
You can know that this setting is acitve by going to GPU-z and as seen here :
the GPU is named Cape Verde (and that is the 7750 GPU)
2. You plug in the monitor on the onboard VGA/DVI/HDMI port, this will result in a dual graphics configuration that will make the 7660 „primary“ and the 7750 „secondary“
You can know that this setting is acitve by going to GPU-z and as seen here :
the GPU is named Devastator (and that is the 7660 GPU)
0a. testing only with the 7660D@GPU:1125mhz@RAM:1183, CPU@4.69 ghz
3dMark score's (all verified and legit) :
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/670406
Ice Storm : 77684
Cloud Gate : 7234
Fire Strike : 1340
No game tests with this setup, you have enough testing of the 7660D online.
0b. Testing only with the discrete graphics MSI 7750@GPU:830@RAM:1125 , CPU@4.69 ghz
3dMark score's (all verdified and legit) :
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/688805
Ice Storm : 89888
Cloud Gate : 9197
Fire Strike : 2025
Battlefield 3:
Min, Max, Avg
25, 40, 31.783 (fps)
Crysis 3 (all low settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
21, 45, 34.383 (fps)
Crysis 3 (mixed very high settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
11, 27, 21.333 (fps)
No Crysis 2 for this setup sorry.
1. the monitor is pluged in the descrete graphics DVI port ( 7750 „primary“ + 7660 „secondary“ dual graphics)
3dMark score's (all verified and legit) : (as you can see in the details portion of each test the 7660 was underclocked to match the 7750 gpu clock @830mhz, automaticly in bios it still was 1ghz+)
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/688631
Ice Storm : 83392
Cloud Gate : 9734
Fire Strike : 2273
Battlefield 3 :
Min, Max, Avg
33, 43, 38.300 (fps)
Crysis 2:
Min, Max, Avg
19, 34, 25.733 (fps)
Crysis 3 (all low settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
22, 47, 33.753 (fps)
Crysis 3 (mixed very high settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
15, 29, 24.200 (fps)
2. the monitor is pluged in the onboard DVI port (7660 „primary“ + 7750 „secondary“ dual graphics)
3dMark score's (all verified and legit) 7660@gpu@1169@2400ram + 7750stock:
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/688902
Ice Storm : 88902
Cloud Gate : 10652
Fire Strike : 2344
Edited* wrong link was here sorry
Battlefield 3 :
Min, Max, Avg
45, 57, 51.300 (fps)
Crysis 2 :
Min, Max, Avg
27, 40, 32.950 (fps)
Crysis 3 (all low settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
23, 46, 36.883 (fps)
Crysis 3 (mixed very high settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
13, 30, 24.733 (fps)
Verdict:
Yeah, dual graphics a10 5800k with 7750 works, how much performance will you get out of it ? About
10-30% over a stock 7750 , and why is that ? Monitoring the games played and tested i've noticed that the only time the real power and full load of bouth graphics cards was achieved in Battlefield 3 where both GPU's where at 99% load. Crysis 2 was loading the 7750 at 99% and the 7660 at about 40% at times. Crysis 3 just had a copule of jumps to 10% on the 7660, the 7750 was at 99%. The performance increase is noticable and nice, especialy if you own a 5800k you'r better off buying a 7750 and not a 6670, here these 2 cards vary only 5-10$ and thats nothing compared to the performance difference. I've not tested the 6670 but we can see how the 6670 factor becomes irelevant at this point.
Do i want to buy a 7750 and upgrade my existing a10 5800k setup with it ?
Yeah you want.
Greetings from Croatia Pozdrav s Hrvatske
The questions are :
Is DUAL GRAPHICS working with an AMD a10 5800k and a AMD 7750 graphics card?
Yes it works.
Will the setup of 7750 and a 7660 give any performance boost to a stock 7750/7660 ?
Yes it will.
How much is the performance increase?
Well that's why we are here to find out .
Software used:
Windows 8 Pro (stock installed, no updates)
AMD Catalyst 13.4 drivers used
3dMark 1.1 (downloaded from Guru3D)
CPU-z 1.64
GPU-z 0.7.1
AMD System Monitor 1.0.9
FRAPS 3.5.99
Battlefield 3 (patch2 applied)
Crysis 3 (1.3 patched)
Crysis 2 (1.9 patched)
The setup:
AMD a10 5800k with 7660D graphics build in
Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4
8gb (2x4gb) Kingston PredatorX 2400mhz RAM
Scythe MUGEN 3 rev.B with 2x Sythe Kaze Ultra (push pull)
MSI 7750 OC graphics card
Mushkin Chronos 60gb SSD (windows)
Toshiba(hitachi) 1TB for storage
400W chieftech power suplie
I had no interest in testing the APU in stock clocks and options, there are al lot of good review's doing exactly that, if is in your interest here is one: http://forums.vr-zone.com/hardware-depot/2616116-review-gigabyte-f2a85x-up4-amd-a10-5800k-apu-madness-review-complete.html
A couple of pictures of the setup without the 7750:
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/8884/cam00027n.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/2825/cam00028g.jpg
And here is the 7750 running in the setup:
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/6940/cam00031y.jpg
GPU-Z screanshot of working dual graphics:
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1073/7660a.gif
Testing method:
3dMark has been run in all combinations and there are 3 games tested, also the Battlefied 3, Crysis 3, Crysis 2, we will have 1 setting for Crysis 2 that was used on all the avaidable options, 2 settings on Crysis 3 (low and mixed very high) and 1 setting for Battlefield 3. The AMD System Monitor was running in the background to check the ussage of both setup's, and if the game really uses the power of dual graphics. ALL GAMES ARE TESTED IN 1920x1080 resolution.
Settings used:
Battlefield 3:
http://imageshack.us/a/img547/6109/bf32013052805572706.jpg
Crysis 2 :
http://imageshack.us/a/img19/8072/crysis22013053000245529.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img19/8994/crysis2sq.jpg
Crysis 3 (low settings):
http://imageshack.us/a/img822/316/crysis32013052805121188.jpg
Crysis 3 (mixed very high settings) identical as above but with :
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/9347/crysis32013052805114876.jpg
There are 2 options to connect the 7750 in dual graphics mode:
1. You plug in the monitor on the discrete 7750 in a VGA/DVI/HDMI port, this will result in a dual graphics configuration that will make the 7750 „primary“ and the 7660 „secondary“
You can know that this setting is acitve by going to GPU-z and as seen here :
the GPU is named Cape Verde (and that is the 7750 GPU)
2. You plug in the monitor on the onboard VGA/DVI/HDMI port, this will result in a dual graphics configuration that will make the 7660 „primary“ and the 7750 „secondary“
You can know that this setting is acitve by going to GPU-z and as seen here :
the GPU is named Devastator (and that is the 7660 GPU)
0a. testing only with the 7660D@GPU:1125mhz@RAM:1183, CPU@4.69 ghz
3dMark score's (all verified and legit) :
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/670406
Ice Storm : 77684
Cloud Gate : 7234
Fire Strike : 1340
No game tests with this setup, you have enough testing of the 7660D online.
0b. Testing only with the discrete graphics MSI 7750@GPU:830@RAM:1125 , CPU@4.69 ghz
3dMark score's (all verdified and legit) :
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/688805
Ice Storm : 89888
Cloud Gate : 9197
Fire Strike : 2025
Battlefield 3:
Min, Max, Avg
25, 40, 31.783 (fps)
Crysis 3 (all low settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
21, 45, 34.383 (fps)
Crysis 3 (mixed very high settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
11, 27, 21.333 (fps)
No Crysis 2 for this setup sorry.
1. the monitor is pluged in the descrete graphics DVI port ( 7750 „primary“ + 7660 „secondary“ dual graphics)
3dMark score's (all verified and legit) : (as you can see in the details portion of each test the 7660 was underclocked to match the 7750 gpu clock @830mhz, automaticly in bios it still was 1ghz+)
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/688631
Ice Storm : 83392
Cloud Gate : 9734
Fire Strike : 2273
Battlefield 3 :
Min, Max, Avg
33, 43, 38.300 (fps)
Crysis 2:
Min, Max, Avg
19, 34, 25.733 (fps)
Crysis 3 (all low settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
22, 47, 33.753 (fps)
Crysis 3 (mixed very high settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
15, 29, 24.200 (fps)
2. the monitor is pluged in the onboard DVI port (7660 „primary“ + 7750 „secondary“ dual graphics)
3dMark score's (all verified and legit) 7660@gpu@1169@2400ram + 7750stock:
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/688902
Ice Storm : 88902
Cloud Gate : 10652
Fire Strike : 2344
Edited* wrong link was here sorry
Battlefield 3 :
Min, Max, Avg
45, 57, 51.300 (fps)
Crysis 2 :
Min, Max, Avg
27, 40, 32.950 (fps)
Crysis 3 (all low settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
23, 46, 36.883 (fps)
Crysis 3 (mixed very high settings) :
Min, Max, Avg
13, 30, 24.733 (fps)
Verdict:
Yeah, dual graphics a10 5800k with 7750 works, how much performance will you get out of it ? About
10-30% over a stock 7750 , and why is that ? Monitoring the games played and tested i've noticed that the only time the real power and full load of bouth graphics cards was achieved in Battlefield 3 where both GPU's where at 99% load. Crysis 2 was loading the 7750 at 99% and the 7660 at about 40% at times. Crysis 3 just had a copule of jumps to 10% on the 7660, the 7750 was at 99%. The performance increase is noticable and nice, especialy if you own a 5800k you'r better off buying a 7750 and not a 6670, here these 2 cards vary only 5-10$ and thats nothing compared to the performance difference. I've not tested the 6670 but we can see how the 6670 factor becomes irelevant at this point.
Do i want to buy a 7750 and upgrade my existing a10 5800k setup with it ?
Yeah you want.
Greetings from Croatia Pozdrav s Hrvatske