Older Raptor Lake CPUs are a ‘core part of the portfolio’ for years to come, says Intel — there’s been a ‘sudden inrush of demand’ for LGA 1700 chips due to DDR5 prices

The Intel Core i7-14700K sitting on a table.
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Intel’s Robert Hallock, vice president and general manager of Intel’s enthusiast channel business, told Tom’s Hardware Premium in an interview that the Raptor Lake architecture will be part of Intel’s offerings “for years to come.” Intel has no plans to abandon Raptor Lake, and if anything, the company says it’s working to “smooth out” some of the supply and pricing inconsistencies among the range. Raptor Lake CPUs still rank among the best CPUs for gaming, not only due to the underperforming Arrow Lake (not Refresh), but also due to high DDR5 prices.

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  • Gururu
    "Again, for the majority of last year, the 14700K often sold for less than $350."

    Pretty much the only part I bought new in 2024 (@$400) that is cheaper now.
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  • Jabberwocky79
    Yeah, let's do it! I built my current PC right smack in the middle of all the kerfuffle of the Raptor Lake chips dying left and right. So I decided to go 12th gen while I waited for Arrow Lake chips instead. Then I learned that 12th gens don't OC well, then Intel went and decided to change the socket again.... kinda left me feeling I was left holding the bag. I'd be happy to upgrade to a (reliable) 14900K at some point.
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  • Anton_Godlike_Gaming
    Train wreck enthusiast "realm" deserved a reset! :D
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  • usertests
    Jabberwocky79 said:
    I'd be happy to upgrade to a (reliable) 14900K at some point.
    That's the thing, isn't it. Is the errata actually fixed or merely covered up with microcode patches (and subject to popping up again if there is a motherboard issue)?

    Yes, the physical vulnerability remains in the silicon, but it is effectively neutralized by software mitigations. The root cause of the instability is a clock tree circuit within the Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen Raptor Lake processors that is vulnerable to accelerated aging under elevated voltage and temperature. This hardware flaw cannot be removed from the physical chips.
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  • TerryLaze
    usertests said:
    That's the thing, isn't it. Is the errata actually fixed or merely covered up with microcode patches (and subject to popping up again if there is a motherboard issue)?

    Yes, the physical vulnerability remains in the silicon, but it is effectively neutralized by software mitigations. The root cause of the instability is a clock tree circuit within the Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen Raptor Lake processors that is vulnerable to accelerated aging under elevated voltage and temperature. This hardware flaw cannot be removed from the physical chips.
    With that logic you can't buy any new CPU at all!!!
    The exploding ryzens only got fixed by setting a limit in the agesa/bios, with the same logic there is nothing preventing any ryzen cpu from exploding at any mobo issue either.
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  • magbarn
    Yeah we're stuck with high RAM prices for at least half a decade or more so this is good news for people still running on Intel 14nm++++++
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  • cyrusfox
    Raptor DDR4 capability shining through (As well as Arrow being lack luster outside 250/270 plus).
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  • usertests
    TerryLaze said:
    With that logic you can't buy any new CPU at all!!!
    The exploding ryzens only got fixed by setting a limit in the agesa/bios, with the same logic there is nothing preventing any ryzen cpu from exploding at any mobo issue either.
    If Raptor Lake ever reverts to its original behavior, how it was operating out in the open for over a year before being caught, for whatever reason (such as a flawed update by the motherboard manufacturer), then it will start to silently degrade. That's plainly worse than Ryzen failures caused by motherboard manufacturers setting high voltage/current limits not recommended by AMD.
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  • TerryLaze
    usertests said:
    If Raptor Lake ever reverts to its original behavior, how it was operating out in the open for over a year before being caught, for whatever reason (such as a flawed update by the motherboard manufacturer), then it will start to silently degrade. That's plainly worse than Ryzen failures caused by motherboard manufacturers setting high voltage/current limits not recommended by AMD.
    How is it worse?! Because you get to keep using your CPU until a convenient time to rma it??
    Instead of having to deal with week long RMA as soon as it happens for your CPU and most probably for your mobo as well since the explosions usually damage the socket as well.
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  • NinoPino
    TerryLaze said:
    How is it worse?! Because you get to keep using your CPU until a convenient time to rma it??
    Instead of having to deal with week long RMA as soon as it happens for your CPU and most probably for your mobo as well since the explosions usually damage the socket as well.
    If you cannot get the (huge) difference by yourself, it is useless to try to explain.
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