OpenAI says actors linked to China-based Moonshot AI spearheaded a campaign to extract its models’ hidden reasoning — logged 16,000 extraction requests across 4,000 accounts before cutoff

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(Image credit: Moonshot AI)

OpenAI said in a company blog post that people associated with China-based Moonshot AI were at the core of an effort to pull hidden reasoning from its models. The post says that a “coordinated campaign” to extract “protected reasoning” from its models, which was “consistent with adversarial distillation,” occurred in July. OpenAI isn’t sure whether all of the operators it saw were a single actor.

Activity began on July 1st, “initially at a low volume.” After that came “high-volume spikes” on July 24 and 25, with 16,000 requests using an extraction pattern. The requests came from over 4,000 users. The activity attempted extraction but was “not necessarily successful,” and the campaign was “fully disrupted by July 28.” The post did not clarify any measure of success rate, which models were specifically targeted, or how many of the users were Moonshot-linked.

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  • PEnns
    Stealing the "reasoning"?? Hmmm

    Coming soon to a movie close to you: 2026, Invasion of the Brain Snatchers. Part I
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  • hotaru251
    Given they illegally (regardless of what courts and corpo say it IS theft) stole data to even make the thign they have ZERO ground to complain if someone tries to take anything from it. Pirates (in this sense both are stealing usermade content/info/data from internet posts) stealing from pirates is fair game.
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  • derekullo
    hotaru251 said:
    Given they illegally (regardless of what courts and corpo say it IS theft) stole data to even make the thign they have ZERO ground to complain if someone tries to take anything from it. Pirates (in this sense both are stealing usermade content/info/data from internet posts) stealing from pirates is fair game.
    Are you not aware of the Pirate Code?
    The code is more what you'd call 'guidelines' than actual rules :P
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  • Bigshrimp
    PEnns said:
    Stealing the "reasoning"?? Hmmm

    Coming soon to a movie close to you: 2026, Invasion of the Brain Snatchers. Part I
    A little seasoning of reasoning. Some salt and pepper here and a little garlic there. :P
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  • justrudi
    While I do agree there should be a good competition and chinese should be denied from stealing any IP, as it has become their national identity, it is also stupidly annoying and funny how chinese are stealing something, that ruins economy, politics, and neighborhoods, while also stealing the data to do it at mass.
    I just hope redemption is going to come eventually, if not from the current administration, but from the next. Otherwise, piracy laws are speculative and there is no moral reason for not renewing pirating. Especially in the light of disney and others worsening their services and accessibility, while ramping up the price.
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  • Arkitekt78
    China stealing tech instead of creating it on their own. That never happens... 🙄
    Reply