Qualcomm mulls taking over Jim Keller's Tenstorrent, report claims — deal for AI chipmaker would value the company at between $8 billion and $10 billion
But for what?
Qualcomm is evaluating an acquisition of Jim Keller-led AI processor developer Tenstorrent in a transaction that could value the company at between $8 billion and $10 billion, reports The Information. The discussions are ongoing, and there is no guarantee that a deal will be reached, but if the takeover proceeds, it will not only value Tenstorrent at a premium but will be one of the most expensive transactions in Qualcomm's history.
The report claims that Qualcomm is particularly interested in Tenstorrent's RISC-V-based AI accelerators and data center-grade CPU IP, though it does not specify how the company plans to integrate Tenstorrent and its products into its lineup. For AI, Qualcomm already has its Qualcomm AI200 and AI250 accelerators based on its Hexagon neural processing units (NPUs) customized for data center AI workloads that are due to ship in 2026. For general-purpose computing, Qualcomm is developing its own server CPUs, presumably based on the Arm instruction set architecture, and recently acquired Ventana Micro, which has a data center-grade RISC-V-powered CPU design.
Qualcomm is known for having a multi-faceted strategy, but having two different types of AI accelerators and three types of data center CPUs (one Arm-based, two RISC-V-based) may not be the most optimal strategy for the company.
Qualcomm is one of the companies that acquires other entities, both to get new IP and competencies as well as actual development teams. While the company's acquisition of Atheros in 2011 transformed Qualcomm from primarily an application processor and cellular modem supplier into a company with a broad portfolio of communication products that includes Ethernet and Wi-Fi, the takeover of Nuvia brought the company fresh blood and put it on the map as a client CPU supplier. The same applies to more recent acquisitions of Alphawave Semi (optical connectivity, chiplets, SerDes, IP, new engineers) and Ventana Micro (RISC-V CPU IP, a CPU developers team).
The potential valuation is another point of concern. Last year, the company was seeking approximately $800 million from investors at a valuation of around $3.2 billion, although it remains unclear whether that financing round was completed, according to The Information. Meanwhile, right now Qualcomm and Tenstorrent are reportedly discussing a valuation between $8 billion and $10 billion, and it is unclear whether this valuation is performance milestones-based.
Yet, given that Qualcomm already has AI acceleration and CPU IP, paying $8 billion – $10 billion for Tenstorrent would be difficult to justify. Such sums represent a massive premium for a company whose hardware business remains relatively small compared to established AI accelerator vendors. That said, the more compelling explanation is people.
Tenstorrent has assembled one of the industry's strongest collections of CPU, AI, interconnect, compiler, and systems architects. The obvious name is Jim Keller, but the company has spent years hiring engineers from AMD, Apple, Intel, Tesla, and others, and this team knows how to build chips. Qualcomm has consistently demonstrated that it is willing to spend billions to acquire elite engineering teams rather than build them from scratch.
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The Nuvia acquisition is the best precedent: Qualcomm did not buy Nuvia because it lacked Arm licenses or CPU design capability. It bought Nuvia because it wanted the team led by Gerard Williams III and the ability to accelerate its CPU roadmap by years with the Oryon IP.
That said, Tenstorrent looks less like an AI accelerator acquisition and more like a talent and future-architecture acquisition, as in addition to the talented team, Qualcomm would also get plenty of RISC-V expertise, which will make it the leading developer of RISC-V-based solutions in general.
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Findecanor The RISC-V community got wind of this about a month ago, and are in up-roar.Reply
Tenstorrent has been the community's favourite, because it is the company most likely to soon release a RISC-V CPU which can deliver performance competitive with offerings from Qualcomm, Apple, Intel and AMD.
It also has the legendary Jim Keller at the helm.
So soon after having mourned Ventana Micro...
.. and it is not as if people liked Qualcomm much before, either. -
ezst036 Qualcomm did eventually triumph against that lawsuit brought on by ARM Holdings. Bet that gives them at least some incentive to not want to stay with ARM architectures forever.Reply
Besides. Having the employ of one Jim Keller would do Qualcomm well for its near future CPU plans. -
bit_user Someone should buy it!Reply
I thought AMD was more than likely, but I guess they feel their client needs are satisfied by the IP they got from Xilinx and are presumably happy with their current datacenter product roadmap. That said, Nvidia's acquisition of Groq should probably have them reconsidering... -
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LOL, I think Qualcomm is one of the few big chip makers he has yet to work for! I guess there's also Nvidia. Not sure if he'd ever consider going to IBM.ezst036 said:Besides. Having the employ of one Jim Keller would do Qualcomm well for its near future CPU plans. -
ekio One more company with great potential bought to do nothing with, that will end up being just a 10 lines paragraph on a larger wikipedia page instead of changing history and making its own name. So f-ing lame.Reply
These companies claiming they want to change and improve the tech landscape are always just baits from the founders to get rich..
So pathetic. -
bit_user Reply
Weird take, IMO.ekio said:One more company with great potential bought to do nothing with, that will end up being just a 10 lines paragraph on a larger wikipedia page instead of changing history and making its own name. So f-ing lame.
These companies claiming they want to change and improve the tech landscape are always just baits from the founders to get rich..
So pathetic.
Tenstorrent was founded to be an AI chip company, since day 1. Jim Keller only joined several years after its founding. It was only a while after that when they branched out into designing their own RISC-V cores, but that wasn't their original mission. Their goal was to be a little bit better than most of the other AI chip companies and thereby survive, thrive, and hopefully get rich.
I think the RISC-V cores were something they did as a fallback plan, in case the main business plan of making AI chips fell through. Of course, the cores served an immediate need within their accelerators, but they had been licensing cores from SiFive prior to that, and probably could've continued to do so.
As far as getting acquired, that's simply the goal of most chip startups. Making chips is a very expensive game, requiring lots of up-front investment and long lead times. Size really does give one an advantage, in that industry. -
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No, a lot of them will hold out for the best offer they think they can get. SiFive reportedly rebuffed an acquisition offer by Intel, for instance. I'd imagine they thought it was either too low for their current worth or just lower than they thought they could eventually get.ekio said:My take is that startups do not try to be themselves, they accept to be bought after the first big dollars offer.
So, I've actually worked for startups, and it's rare to find one with a capitalization structure which would even allow them to do that. Most of the time, they take too much money from Venture Capital firms to resist a good acquisition (i.e. unless they're pretty confident they can do better).ekio said:The companies that make history are the ones that stand their ground and say no! I don't want to become a lame subproject from the sub AI division of Qualcomm, We want to be TensTorrent!
You pretty much need the founder to have a dominant stake in the company, otherwise it's the investors who have the final say. Knowing how the system works, everybody involved with the company will know that it was built to be aqcuired.
At that point, Nvidia had been publicly traded for at least half a decade. The board probably felt Intel's offer undervalued the company and Intel simply didn't have the fortitude to pursue a hostile takeover. But, if we're expanding the discussion to talk about publicly-traded companies, then it's definitely not a matter of principle. Nearly all of them are pretty much governed by their investors. It's exceedingly rare that you have a case like Facebook/Meta, where the founder retains a controlling share of the company.ekio said:Just like Nvidia never sold to Intel, and today, they could buy them like if it was a piece of bread.
Probably not killed, but sold or spun out. Like they did with Altera and MobilEye (I think). But, if Intel had bought them, then maybe Intel would've made strategic plans involving them and couldn't have killed them.ekio said:If SiFive sold to Intel, they would just have been killed when Intel stock dropped to subwater levels
Why do you think it's his decision? I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a controlling stake in the company.ekio said:I never said it's easier, but Jim Keller is already rich as ..., he will never suffer from needing money, so he has nothing to gain having a billion instead of hundreds of milions.
It's also not clear to me that he has a vision for the company that's incompatible with what Qualcomm wants to do with it.
He wasn't a founder. I already explained this, in the previous post. Back when it was founded, he was probably still working at Tesla. Then, he went to Intel, and then he went to Tenstorrent!ekio said:But he can choose to be the guy who always was an employee vs being the guy who finished his career as the founder of a key company. -
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What would AMD buy it for?!?! Integrating it into their own products would take forever and would not be financially viable, and making them as they are would mean that they bought competition for their own products...bit_user said:Someone should buy it!
I thought AMD was more than likely, but I guess they feel their client needs are satisfied by the IP they got from Xilinx and are presumably happy with their current datacenter product roadmap. That said, Nvidia's acquisition of Groq should probably have them reconsidering...
The only reason for them to buy would be to bury the tech and delete one competitor, but that would not be worth giving away 10% of the company (current market cap) because they sure as heck can't pay 8-10bil in cash and keep the lights on. -
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AMD announced the acquisition of Xilinx in Oct 2020 and completed it in Feb, 2022. In the first half of 2023, they launched their Phoenix APUs which contained XDNA NPUs they had acquired from Xilinx. That's pretty much a record, in terms integrating new IP.TerryLaze said:What would AMD buy it for?!?! Integrating it into their own products would take forever
No, Tenstorrent doesn't (yet) have a major market presence, other than some embedded design wins.TerryLaze said:The only reason for them to buy would be to bury the tech and delete one competitor, -
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Yeah but that's fpga, that's the whole point of fpga, all the fpga projects and addons can be completed as fast as you can code it, that's something that every fpga provider offers as a service.bit_user said:AMD announced the acquisition of Xilinx in Oct 2020 and completed it in Feb, 2022. In the first half of 2023, they launched their Phoenix APUs which contained XDNA NPUs they had acquired from Xilinx. That's pretty much a record, in terms integrating new IP.
They don't need to be integrated into anything, you just provide some data lanes to it and that's it.
So not even that is a reason for them to buy them...bit_user said:No, Tenstorrent doesn't (yet) have a major market presence, other than some embedded design wins.
Is there any reason at all?