SpaceXAI says it will remove all 69 of its unpermitted turbine power generators, but expects process to take a year — trailer-mounted generators to be replaced by 1.2GW power plant
Why would it take a year to remove mobile turbines?
Elon Musk’s Colossus data centers that sit near the border between Tennessee and Mississippi will finally be removed starting this month. According to the company, the 69 temporary mobile turbines, which have been the subject of a lawsuit that claims they have been causing pollution, are going to be completely removed by July 2027, meaning it will take the company 12 months to withdraw the trailer-mounted generators from its premises. This may sound confusing, as they’re “portable” generators, after all, but it seems that SpaceXAI is removing them in phases as its 1.2GW power plant slowly comes online.
SpaceXAI achieved one of the fastest data center deployments ever after it set up 100,000 Nvidia H200 GPUs in 19 days — something that Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang said usually takes four years or more. Musk achieved this by bringing in his own power instead of waiting to get connected to the grid, which was considered a novel idea at that time. Today, a few data center operators, like OpenAI, are following Musk’s footsteps and deploying their own turbines to power their servers without relying on other providers.
But even though the idea feels innovative, the community surrounding the Colossus 1 and Colossus 2 data centers has been complaining about the pollution that these mobile turbines bring. They say that these turbines didn’t have the required permits to operate, although the company argued that the mobile and temporary nature of these units exempted them. The EPA said earlier this year that these units aren’t exempt from permits, but SpaceXAI continued to operate them anyway. It has even got to the point that the NAACP filed a case over these unpermitted turbines, although the DOJ weighed in, saying that removing them would put national security at risk as Colossus 2 “supports mission-critical operations.”
Despite that, it seems that SpaceXAI has finally settled into an agreement with the Mississippi Department of Environmental Quality. It’s if the 1.2GW power plant replacing these mobile turbines is the same one that Musk is importing from overseas, but the important part is that it’s approved under a Clean Air Act permit. Aside from that, the company also said that it’s equipping all its mobile turbines with “advanced emission control technologies,” which should reduce the environmental impact of its power sources.
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Jowi Morales is a tech enthusiast with years of experience working in the industry. He’s been writing with several tech publications since 2021, where he’s been interested in tech hardware and consumer electronics.
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Samlebon2306 SpaceXAI was asked to shut down their trailer‑mounted turbines, so obviously the next logical step is to modularize the entire datacenter, load every piece onto trailers, and just move the whole thing whenever someone complains. Pack up the tents, move the elephants, reboot the servers — and don’t forget to hire clowns from the town hall before rolling into the next city. At this point it’s basically a traveling circus datacenter.Reply -
Kindaian No penalty/fine for each day that they have been running illegally? Interesting... so the laws exist for everyone but are only applied for some?Reply -
computerguy72 The portable generators in question produce the least pollution of almost any power production method that was an option. In fact for those it's likely pollutants would not be detectable more than 2000 feet away. They are really clean.Reply
But who cares, data centers evil, musk bad, ai the devil etc. I think very little actual analysis was involved. -
Reechard Reply
What part of "rich people are doing highly illegal things whenever they want without any repercussions" is *NOT* bad for people like us? I have been in the Internet business as an engineer handling significant portions of Internet traffic for 20 years. I am pretty sure my experience and qualifications make me an actual expert in this subject. If you don't think Musk is evil you aren't paying attention, and if you think it's ok for big corpo to step in and eminent domain a bunch of people's houses to build a giant noise and light pollution campus in your town that makes your power grid and city water utilities less reliable and employs 40 people grand total at pitiful wages.... Maybe your morals are a lil messed up.computerguy72 said:The portable generators in question produce the least pollution of almost any power production method that was an option. In fact for those it's likely pollutants would not be detectable more than 2000 feet away. They are really clean.
But who cares, data centers evil, musk bad, ai the devil etc. I think very little actual analysis was involved. -
Reechard I do not think AI as a technology is evil. I *do* think throwing every resource on the planet at 3,000 competing entities to produce an objectively terrible end result, when a single collective project could use 1/1000 of the resources and be actually good, so that a few thousand billionaires can trade them around like pokemon cards... That I do believe is evil.Reply
That's why China's models are kicking our butts with chewing gum and duct tape for hardware. -
Why_Me Reply
And I've been working around gas powered turbines/generators for the better part of 16 years on Alaska's North Slope (oil patch). Not going to call myself an expert by any means but I will say that those turbines are a clean and reliable power source.Reechard said:What part of "rich people are doing highly illegal things whenever they want without any repercussions" is *NOT* bad for people like us? I have been in the Internet business as an engineer handling significant portions of Internet traffic for 20 years. I am pretty sure my experience and qualifications make me an actual expert in this subject. If you don't think Musk is evil you aren't paying attention, and if you think it's ok for big corpo to step in and eminent domain a bunch of people's houses to build a giant noise and light pollution campus in your town that makes your power grid and city water utilities less reliable and employs 40 people grand total at pitiful wages.... Maybe your morals are a lil messed up.
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COLGeek Folks, please focus on the actual topic and not the debate on a divisive person.Reply
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Setnev Looks like Musk took the "ask for forgiveness instead of permission" angle to rolling out those data centers. I cant wait to China's models to beat the crap out of ours. Qwen3.8 is pretty dang close. We dont need this garbage in our country. We're too busy playing catchup from the failure of the last 50 years of administrative mistakes this country has made to make a dent in the AI space long term. China will overtake us in Agentic. China will overtake us with AGI. Why? We have people who refuse to accept forward progress because it requires money and time they have but didn't want to invest years ago that would have laid the groundwork for our progress. China doesnt care about the money or time, they care about progress. Now we're behind again.Reply -
thrus Reply
Pollution is one side of it but the they are not permitted is a bigger one. If I swap.my ice car for electric and then pake the ice one in a paid parking spot without paying I am making a good decision for the environment, but I am still breaking the law and that should have consequences.computerguy72 said:The portable generators in question produce the least pollution of almost any power production method that was an option. In fact for those it's likely pollutants would not be detectable more than 2000 feet away. They are really clean.
But who cares, data centers evil, musk bad, ai the devil etc. I think very little actual analysis was involved.