Amazon workers who testified against AI data centers say they were intimidated by the company, monitored at work — employees face possible termination for violating company policy, speaking as representatives

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Amazon employees Darius Irani, Patrick Schloesser, and Liesl Wigand, who are members of Amazon Employees for Climate Justice (AECJ), say that they’re currently being investigated by their employer for breaking company policy after they testified in favor of the Seattle data center moratorium. According to Bloomberg, the three were called to separate Zoom meetings with an HR staff member after the city passed its one-year AI data center ban, where they were told that the company was investigating concerns about their public comments. Staff say they were intimidated during calls, are being monitored at work, and may face possible termination.

The company said that even though the three were free to discuss their working environment, they’re not allowed to speak as its representatives. “As we looked more closely at how these employees represented themselves, and how their comments were received by others, it became clear that they may have been speaking in their capacity as Amazonians and not as private citizens,” Amazon spokesperson Margaret Callahan told the publication. “We believe it’s important to apply our policies consistently so, just as we would with anyone else, we’re investigating whether there was a violation of our policies and may or may not take action based on what we find.”

Legal representatives of the three personnel said in a letter to the Seattle Office for Civil Rights (SOCR) that the investigations could lead to discipline, with one of them even saying that they could possibly be terminated. The lawyers argued that they were investigated by the company because of what they said when the Seattle City Council heard public comments on the measure, and said that Irani, Schloesser, and Wigand did not use company time when they made their comments, nor did they make any mention of their employer or shared propriety information.

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The SOCR is a local government agency that enforces laws against employment discrimination, among other things, and the three affected employees are asking the agency to look into the situation. They alleged that they were intimidated during the Zoom meetings and complained about being monitored while they were at work. This also isn’t the first time that AECJ-affiliated workers faced an issue with Amazon. The company reportedly fired two people in 2020 who were part of the group’s leadership for putting a spotlight on Amazon warehouse workers’ safety (or lack thereof) during the pandemic.

Amazon says it is just investigating the situation and hasn’t made a decision yet. However, news like this will not do any good for the company and industry in general, especially as they gather bad press because of their AI data center projects. While the company has been trying to put its good side forward, like comparing its water consumption with other hyperscalers to highlight its high water efficiency, it still cannot shake off the perception that it could cause higher electricity costs, reduced water pressure, and noise pollution, among others.

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Jowi Morales
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Jowi Morales is a tech enthusiast with years of experience working in the industry. He’s been writing with several tech publications since 2021, where he’s been interested in tech hardware and consumer electronics.

  • Geef
    If I was being monitored I could totally play into it. I'd walk around like those old cartoon villains. Little tiny steps then stop at every corner. Look both ways with head swinging in wide arcs and eyes super wide before doing tiny steps with a huge smile the entire time!
    Example: Stop by the coffee machine. Look both ways before grabbing a handful of sugar packets and sneaking off.
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  • Thretosix
    If there is an NDA in place and a crime is committed, the NDA is considered null and void. It seems as though Amazon trying to skirt blatant extortion by not telling the person directly that they are being fired for testifying against them in court. It is sad when money and power goes extra evil to get it's way while breaking laws and ruining lives.
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  • TechieTwo
    Perish the thought that Big Biz would try to intimidate anyone... BTW I have some ocean front property in Arkansas that I'm sure you would be interested in buying. ;)
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  • derekullo
    Silly paranoid Amazon worker !
    Everyone is monitored !
    Not just those against AI !
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  • Findecanor
    That's not the only Amazon-AI controversy I've read about this morning.
    Apparently there is also a completed biopic about Sam Altman that has been stopped from showing on Amazon Prime.
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  • bit_user
    Findecanor said:
    That's not the only Amazon-AI controversy I've read about this morning.
    Apparently there is also a completed biopic about Sam Altman that has been stopped from showing on Amazon Prime.
    I certainly don't want to defend Amazon, but there could be multiple explanations for that which are perfectly reasonable. If Altman/OpenAI felt the documentary was libelous, they could've mounted a legal challenge and Amazon would likely either have been compelled to suspend distributing it or simply have done so to limit their liability, while the case plays out.

    This is one reason I made a point of buying a movie called The Apprentice, on blu-ray. I pre-ordered it, in fact. It's about another highly-litigious subject with substantial political clout.
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  • bit_user
    derekullo said:
    Silly paranoid Amazon worker !
    Everyone is monitored !
    Not just those against AI !
    They clearly mean over-the-top monitoring, like someone checking to see when they're at their desk. Obviously, their emails, chats, and other activities are subject to the standard corporate spying, but the impression I get is that the company is scrutinizing their conduct for any pretext to terminate them.
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  • bit_user
    Geef said:
    If I was being monitored I could totally play into it. I'd walk around like those old cartoon villains. Little tiny steps then stop at every corner. Look both ways with head swinging in wide arcs and eyes super wide before doing tiny steps with a huge smile the entire time!
    Example: Stop by the coffee machine. Look both ways before grabbing a handful of sugar packets and sneaking off.
    If you act too bizarrely, that could backfire and get complaints lodged against you, with HR.

    Those would work against you, when the time comes for annual performance reviews. Those performance reviews are a big deal at Amazon, since they have a policy of terminating something like 10% of their workforce every year. They don't like to keep around low-performers or otherwise problematic employees.
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