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hi
could somebody explain to me why some people are bashing crysis so badly about hardware requirements?
i mean its the best game i've every played and my 8800gt runs it fine with all settings on high, AA 2x, 1200*1600 (my monitor is 22" so i cannot increase the resolution)
i get over 30fps, there is no lagging ever, even during explosion

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That's because you're running it on High, 1600x1200, and still only managing ~30fps. Are you using Vista or XP?

 

Also, fraps screenshot in core please, I'd love to see what FPS you're hitting there :)


Message edited by Oh Snap on 06-18-2008 at 11:36:52 PM
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xp
umm i am shure it is more than 30fps
i havent used fraps but i can tell it is around 45 - 50
when i put AA 4x, thats when it goes down to 30

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Message edited by Hyder on 06-18-2008 at 11:37:43 PM
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i was wondering, what hsf do u have on ur q6600 (thinking of overclocking)

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Hyder wrote :

xp
umm i am shure it is more than 30fps
i havent used fraps but i can tell it is around 45 - 50
when i put AA 4x, thats when it goes down to 30


Imo use fraps, first off. Second, you're using XP so of course performance is going to be way better because you're not using DirectX 10 at all. Run it in vista, directx 10 and you're going to hit the wall.

It's a highly demanding game, and even with Tri-SLI 8800GTX's @ 2560x1600, Very High all in DX10, although it runs well I feel like it could run better. Every other game I throw at my rig isn't nearly as demanding as Crysis. The common complaint amongst most people is that after spending > $3000 on a computer, it should be able to play everything out max everything.

At least get fraps for now and find out your actual FPS in all situations, rather than just guessing.

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Hyder wrote :

i was wondering, what hsf do u have on ur q6600 (thinking of overclocking)


My heatsink is a thermalright ultra-120 extreme, and the fan is just a dynex 120mm. It maintains <50c at full load, but I still need to lap the heatsink as it's still not keeping the cpu as cool as I'd like it.

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oic
well i get ur point now
they mean vista dx 10 - very high

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Would this run a bit smoother on DX9 in XP? I picked up this game just due to all the hype as I just got a 8800GT card as well on a E8400 chip.

I was thinking of slapping XP Pro in a dual boot configuration just to play around with it.

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There's a definite increase in performance when playing Crysis in XP vs. Vista (regardless of whether or not you're playing in DX9 or DX10 on Vista).

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what a load of ****
you cannot run crysis at 1600x1200 with all very high settings with 2aa on at 30fps and up

BULL ****

i have a 9800gtx
and i cant even run it with those settings with 30fps
i can run 1920x1200 with a mix of high and very high with NO NO NO NO AA on and can get 28..............but i only get 26 with the settings you are talking about

i dislike when people tell me that i dont get the FPS that i do get at my settings........but in your case ****

theres no way in hell you are getting 30fps and up on that card

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I have a 8800GTX OC'd @ ULTRA and i play @ 1680x1050 0xAA and i get 20-30 FPS

AA didn't make a noticeable difference for me, it only killed my FPS so i used 0xAA

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raptorxt wrote :

what a load of ****
you cannot run crysis at 1600x1200 with all very high settings with 2aa on at 30fps and up

BULL ****

i have a 9800gtx
and i cant even run it with those settings with 30fps
i can run 1920x1200 with a mix of high and very high with NO NO NO NO AA on and can get 28..............but i only get 26 with the settings you are talking about

i dislike when people tell me that i dont get the FPS that i do get at my settings........but in your case ****

theres no way in hell you are getting 30fps and up on that card



I think he's a little confused. He's only running high and DX9 as he's using XP, not Vista. In that case, his FPS are quite acheivable as I get around 45+ with those settings.

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Just not true. Crysis won't run everything on high @ 1600X1200 with a 8800 GT. BS!

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aziraphale wrote :

Just not true. Crysis won't run everything on high @ 1600X1200 with a 8800 GT. BS!


In windows XP an 8800GT could play crysis @ 1600x1200 all high and probably get ~20-30fps. Honestly, XP and dx9 crysis really isn't that demanding.

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Can't you just turn down some of the settings in Vista to kinda match a DX9 type of graphics (and performance)? I'm torn on to install Vista, or XP on my latest computer now....

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You can run actual DX9 graphics in Crysis, even if you're using Vista. DX10 is an optional setting. You will get much better performance in DX9, you just won't get some of the effects.

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Thanks.....I'm going to just use Vista then....

Reply to y2kgtp

i'm sorry did anybody read the first post

he said he was also using 2xAA with those results

i agree that you can achieve those frames WITHOUT 2xAA on, but with it on you cant

i have a 9800gtx and i can get 25fps with 2xAA on with the same settings he has NOT **** 30

MAZIAR has the right numbers
with 2xAA on it destroys his FPS
i completely agree with his post

i play Crysis at 1920x1200 with a mix of high and very high with NO AA and achieve an average of 28FPS

either HYDER is full of **** or he has a 4000% overclock

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I don't know raptor, I just did a bench of Crysis at 1680 x 1050, 2xAA, DX9, everything set to high and my average FPS were 34.62 with a high of 41.48 and a low of 26.86 and I'm running it on Vista. So if XP is a little faster and if his card is OC'd, I can't see why it wouldn't be possible.

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raptorxt, OP is just guessing his framerates here, so I don't think he's claiming them as a fact.
I agree they can't be like that with 2xAA... hell, it doesn't run that well even with no AA at all on that card.

 

My 8800GT runs Crysis all high @1680*1050 and no AA, and what I get is 22-30 fps average. In the later stages of the game, framerate tends to drop below 22 quite a bit. With 2x AA applied, it's considerably less, averaging in the high teens.

 

mothhive, the Crysis benchmarks are off.
I get higher numbers in the benchmarks, but a real playthrough gives lower fps at the same settings.
Play the game and monitor the fps with FRAPS, and you'll see for yourself.

 

PS. Using XP here.


Message edited by trackman2010 on 06-21-2008 at 04:01:15 AM
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mothhive wrote :

I don't know raptor, I just did a bench of Crysis at 1680 x 1050, 2xAA, DX9, everything set to high and my average FPS were 34.62 with a high of 41.48 and a low of 26.86 and I'm running it on Vista. So if XP is a little faster and if his card is OC'd, I can't see why it wouldn't be possible.



What are you using to benchmark Crysis with? Just curious.....

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well, i must have stepped into an alternate universe where the 8800gt destroys the 9800gtx in all aspects

i cant even **** get 30fps at those settings

wait........i have an idea.........set the nvidia control panel antialiasing to 2x and override any application........because i use to have a problem on my 7950gt where when i turned AA on in game it would change back to NO aa

Reply to raptorxt

Are you even reading the posts?
The only two people that claimed these FPS were achievable with 2xAA were mothhive, who has a 9800GTX just like you and was using the Crysis benchmarking utility, which as I mentioned is off, and the OP who was just guesstimating, wrongly I might add.

As has been mentioned, normal FPS for a single stock 8800GT running Crysis at high settings with NO AA @ 1600*1200 are exactly like Oh Snap mentioned; 20-30 FPS depending on the situation and location in the game.

With 2xAA on, it's simply not playable and averages in the teens as I mentioned before.

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y2kgtp wrote :

What are you using to benchmark Crysis with? Just curious.....



Crysis benchmarking tool

I have since downloaded Fraps and I get pretty much the same results in game as in the benchmark (bigger lows and slightly bigger highs in the benchmark though), but yes, I am using a 9800gtx. I thought the fact that I was running it with Vista (which I'm led to believe is a total resource hog and reduces performance considerably) and was getting at least 5fps over the 30 he mentioned would kinda even everything out and mean that an 8800GT could manage it if OC'd. I guess I was being a bit optimistic and I would obviously advise everyone to listen to trackman2010 as he actually has the 8800GT and XP.

Anyway, Hyder seems to be happy with the way it performs, so lets not bicker and argue over whose FPS beat whose. This is supposed to be a happy occasion! :D

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TRACKMAN
so, what you are saying is that you agree that the thread starter (Hyder) is mistaken in his claim that he gets OVER 30fps at the mentioned settings

and yes i have read the **** thread over and over just to see if i hadnt missed "oh yeah i guess i didnt have 2xaa on"...............

i agree with you completely......and dont **** question whether or not i have read the damn thread.......when i was only talking to the OP the entire time and his ridiculous "guesstimates" as you call them

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oh yeah, and the crysis benchmark isnt that far off at all.........it says i get 28average.....and i tend to agree with it because that is about where my fps are at most times......yes core tends to drop them into very lows 20's (like 20 lol) and sometimes high teens (very rarely though) but overall it is around 28

the only place that it hit 12 was when you have to destroy the first power surge thing while you are floating in the alien spaceship
all the **** flies out into the room and there is like an electric fire and everything else causing my frames to drop considerably......it only lasted for like 5 seconds though.......it might be because i dont have a kickass processor like most of you guys

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raptorxt wrote :

TRACKMAN
so, what you are saying is that you agree that the thread starter (Hyder) is mistaken in his claim that he gets OVER 30fps at the mentioned settings

and yes i have read the **** thread over and over just to see if i hadnt missed "oh yeah i guess i didnt have 2xaa on"...............

i agree with you completely......and dont **** question whether or not i have read the damn thread.......when i was only talking to the OP the entire time and his ridiculous "guesstimates" as you call them


First of all, I don't appreciate your attitude at all.
I would expect from you at least the same respect I'm showing in my posts.

Having said that, I questioned whether you read the posts or not because to me it seemed like you didn't after reading your third post. Especially the part where you said this:
"well, i must have stepped into an alternate universe where the 8800gt destroys the 9800gtx in all aspects"
...which meant, to me at least, that you thought everyone here agreed with the OP, which wasn't true.
Not to mention this came after my first post (and others), in which I clearly mentioned the OP was wrong.
I can't see how all your posts were directed at the OP considering he did not write again after your first post.

In any case, yes, I was agreeing with you, obviously.

Anyway, as long as everyone is happy with the performance they're getting (or think they are), it's all good. :)

Reply to trackman2010

you know what, you are right
i shouldnt have gone off on you
you were only trying to agree with me

this sentence is what set me off "Are you even reading the posts?"
i thought you might be trolling for conflict because i was obviously reading the posts

i thought, at first, that mothhive did have an 8800gt because it sounded like he was defending the op's statement
thats the only reason i said "well, i must have stepped into an alternate universe where the 8800gt destroys the 9800gtx in all aspects"

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+1 - There is absolutely no way a single 8800GT can play Crysis in Win XP DX9 at 1680x1050 2xaa and remain above 30 fps. Not even close. Hit levels later in the game like Paradise Lost and FPS would be in the upper teens at times. The demo is not the game. The GPU bench is not the game. Parts of crysis will bring an 8800GT to it's knees at those settings.

Here is a 45 second fraps run showing a single 8800GT vs SLI 8800GT in the middle part of the Paradise Lost level. Note 16x10 no fsaa / 16xaf and fps were basically below 30 fps the whole time. (paired with a Q6600 @ 3.0GHz)

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/627/crysishighslivssinglept8.th.jpg


Here is a compressed merged screenie of the starting point for the above benchmark. From this point Prophet is following you saying "my suits freezing I need to get to a heat source". The fraps benchie runs through the canyon toward the heatsource at the far end. This screenie is 16x10 all high with 2xaa/16xaf, and notice 16 fps for a single 8800GT.

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/1329/crysis8800gt1vs2tw7.th.jpg


Message edited by pauldh on 06-26-2008 at 01:36:40 PM
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Crysis is a very tricky game, so everyone who says u cant do this or that should first inform themselves.

Depending on settings, diretcx, OS, OC on gpu, cooling system on gpu, number of Cores, and its speed, Ram, their timings and FSB, Motherboard, and even HDD take its part in this game.

Ill give you my expirince, since i latly got new comp.

First i had: A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard, amd 64 bit 3200+, 2 GB 400MHZ OEM, and a Seagate baracuda 7.200 160 GB, 2X6600GT in SLI mode.

The settings: XP, DX9, Medium all, 1024*768. Lagged only on carreir intiriors (smoke was 2 much for 6600GTs).

Second comp: Asus Rampage Formula, q6600 no OC, 4gb ram 800mhz 4-4-4-12 Corsais XMS aluminium cooling, Samsung Spinpoint HD501J 500gb, 2x4850 in Crossfire.

The settings: Vista Sp1, DX10, all very high, no AA, 1600*1200. No lag at all, excepting virus updates, etc.

On the setitngs with 8800gt, or 9800gtx etc, dont forget to factor your other parts from the computer. one 8800GT, if oced and having a very powerfull backup, can run on dx9 high all 1680*1050 on up to 57 FPS and a minimum of 19. Besides dnt forget the 8800GT 2.0 PCI-e with some OC beats 8800 ULTRA in high resolutions.

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cats_paw wrote :

Crysis is a very tricky game, so everyone who says u cant do this or that should first inform themselves.

Depending on settings, diretcx, OS, OC on gpu, cooling system on gpu, number of Cores, and its speed, Ram, their timings and FSB, Motherboard, and even HDD take its part in this game.


You're missing the point, and in this case, are making it a lot trickier than it really is. A claim was made that a single 8800GT is staying above 30 fps in Crysis at 1600x1200 2xaa and all settings on high. This is absolutely impossible throughout most of the game. Nothing else needs to be factored in whatsoever as he stated his GPU, his exact resolution and settings, and his performance claim. OC everything on liquid and still manage the tightest of timings, and it would still not even be close. It's beyond what a single G92 GPU can do, period. The 8800Ultra can't even come close. And really, I bet the GTX280 would even struggle to stay above 30 fps throughout the game, regardless of the system it's on.

Reply to pauldh

STOP ARGUMENT ABOUT THE FPS PLZZ!!!.
8800GT is 75% the performance of a 9800GTX+ and 80% a 9800GTX almost.
so 30fps in 9800gtx= 25fps on 8800gt. blablablablabala.....is a Nice card.
I can buy a 8800GT "OEM" here by half the price of a 9800GTX and i was wondering.
¿What is wrong with the "OEM" version to be so cheap against a 9800gtx?

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STOP BUMPING OLD THREAD PLZZ!!!.

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I think he's tellin porkies

Reply to tobensg

My 8800GT runs Crysis all high @1680*1050 and no AA, and what I get is 22-30 fps average ,,,,,,,,,,,, ME TOOO

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