Can I Prevent Bottlenecking?

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obeyeddog

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I just built a computer for the first time with a Ryzen 5 1600x, but it wasn't compatible with my integrated graphics, so I need a GPU. However, I was not expecting to have to buy one, so I was caught off guard. I have a really old temporary GPU, so I tested the bottle necking and it was at 50%. thebottlenecker.com recommended a 1080 for my CPU. But I can't buy one of those, I can only get as good the GTX 1060 3GB. So I tested that GPU and it was only 15%. Will this cause me issues or wear down on my parts at all. I am not experienced with any of this, so please help me. Can I overclock the GPUto fix it? Or is it not a big deal. BTW: this PC is for Gaming. Thanks! :)
 
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No hardware combination will eliminate bottlenecking entirely. That because "bottlenecking" simply refers to one piece of hardware limiting the performance of another in a given game. The hardware requirements of every game are different though, so there's no combination of CPU and GPU that will have both operating near 100% of their capabilities all the time. In general, bottlenecking usually shouldn't be much of a concern unless you're dealing with especially old or low-end hardware.

You can use whatever graphics card you want with a 1600X, so long as it is powerful enough to run games at the resolution and settings you are looking for. If you want to run recent games with high settings at 1080p and maintain around 60fps, a GTX...
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Nerver heard of this site before now... I tried it and it told me that I should replace my old i5-2400 with a FX-8350..... Hahaha, that is not even an upgrade.... More a side step / downgrade... This site is crap...

Concerning the question, there is ALWAYS a bottleneck in EVERY system. Even in a "balanced" computer, there is a bottleneck somewhere. In you play more CPU bound game, the bottleneck will be your CPU, and in other game (more GPU bound), it can be your GPU... Always better to tried to have a "balanced" system but dont worry that much for bottleneck... Buy the GPU that you can afford... You budget allow you to buy a 1060 3gb, then go for it... It will be WAAAAYYYY better than your integrated graphic... Can you put a better GPU with your 1600X, sure... But dont sell your house just for a GPU. Buy the 1060 and when your financial situation will improve, upgrade your system with a better GPU. Bottleneck is the most overated subject in computer forum... People feel smarter when they talk about it... :-(
 
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I have the ryzen 7 1800x and the amd RX 580 is great with it and NOT as much as an 1080.

I personally would go with an Nvidia 1060 6GB card OR the AMD RX 580 8GB card. they are about the same price on newegg.com and are very similar in performance. For me I went with the RX 580 card being I have had MANY cards in the past both nvidia and ATI / AMD and never liked one over the other like some do. BUT I wanted to support the littler guy so I got the RX 580 8GB OC card and have not looked back since I got it. I got it when it came out sometime last year.. they are though more expensive then I would like..

as long as you don't have s small case I would always get the card that has more cooling (so more then 1 fan) BUT you also need to have a GOOD power supply to run the system properly. I would say around 600 Watts just to be safe or min 550Watts and not some $20 one as they normally are not good at all.

I would not get the 3GB 1060 card IF you want to get a nvidia card get the full functioning 6GB 1060 card. depending on what you play haveing a card with more then 3Gb of ram is very much needed.

I personally would get the GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1060 DirectX 12 GV-N1060WF2OC-6GD 6GB OR (one of those series depending on your monitor needs.. I would check what ports you need to use. Like for me I has 1 display port and 2 hdmi ports on my card I have.. I have NO need for the other ports. and on one computer I have need of 3 hdmi cables being I have 2 computers with 3 monitors each I use)

The one I have is this one https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814126193 and it for me is great so far had it for a while now without any complaints (other then being a little overpriced. but it is also VR capable and so on.
 
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There is no such thing as "bottlenecking"
If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
somehow lower your performance or FPS.
A better term might be limiting factor.
That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
less effective.

I think the bottlenecking site is fake science.

As to what discrete graphics card would be appropriate, that depends.

First, your budget. What do you have in mind?

If your games tend to sims, mmo, or strategy, you do not need as strong a graphics card as you would for fast action games.

Your monitor resolution plays a part also.
1080P can use a lesser card while fast action on a 4k monitor may need a GTX1080ti.

Your ryzen 1600 can run most any game well.
Buy the best card that your budget will allow.
If your budget permits a GTX10603gb, that is ok.
It will be appropriate for many games at 1080P

Graphics card vendors bin their chips and use the better ones in factory overclocked versions
that they can sell for more. You may be able to OC more, but then again, perhaps not.
I would not count on it.
They try to differentiate by adding cosmetics and fancy coolers which also sell for more.
I do think you get fair value from a modest factory overclocked card.
If you need more performance, they buy a higher tier card in the first place.



 
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And why it is sooooo wrong?

Very powerful CPU with very powerful GPU. Thats quite a good match...

With what you just wrote, I'm curious to know what is a good match for you for a 1600X???
 
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IF you don't have $350 or so to toss around then just use what you have now until you can afford the upgrade and by then who knows.. maybe the prices will be better OR much faster stuff will be available for same price.
 
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No hardware combination will eliminate bottlenecking entirely. That because "bottlenecking" simply refers to one piece of hardware limiting the performance of another in a given game. The hardware requirements of every game are different though, so there's no combination of CPU and GPU that will have both operating near 100% of their capabilities all the time. In general, bottlenecking usually shouldn't be much of a concern unless you're dealing with especially old or low-end hardware.

You can use whatever graphics card you want with a 1600X, so long as it is powerful enough to run games at the resolution and settings you are looking for. If you want to run recent games with high settings at 1080p and maintain around 60fps, a GTX 1060 is probably a good option. If you are fine with around 30fps, or lower settings, or mainly play older games, then something like a 1050 or 1050 Ti might suffice.
 
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