Recommended OC to reduce bottleneck?

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Hello all,
I have an FX-6300 and a GTX 1060 3GB, and I'm really noticing stuttering in not only games but sometimes in general activities as well, so I would like to know a good overclocking setting I can use. I have a MSI 990FXA Gaming motherboard and an ENERMAX ETS-N31 cooler. One main reason why I ask here is that the click bios 4 is really confusing for adjusting voltages and I don't want to screw something up on accident, and there are also barely any guides using it for my CPU online. Specifically the part I have issue with is the fact that you can't manually set a voltage (i.e. 1.5v) and have to instead set it to something like +0.100000v which I don't quite understand. Another thing is my temps get somewhat high using the OC Genie (in the range of 65ish degrees) and also that my OC settings often do not save. If it helps my PSU is an ENERMAX 550w Gold PSU so I'd assume it would provide enough power, and I also have 8GB of DDR3-1600 RAM. Please advise on an ideal OC configuration for this BIOS and CPU to alleviate the bottleneck so I can get the most out of my CPU short of upgrading to a new chipset and CPU which is not an option for me.
 
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I've tried for quite a while, the inability to properly change voltage seems to be the thing holding it back as is the settings not saving. I also do not know why it's running so hot especially with an aftermarket cooler when I run it at 4 ghz with auto voltage.
 
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Because those motherboards and those CPUs were garbage when they were new, and even worse now. The AM3+ socket unless you have a high end board, arent built for OCing. Sure it can be done, but since every CPU and mobo react differently tro their environments, you may not be able to OC and keep it cool. Depends on where you live too. Your best option is to buy new hardware.
 
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Just stop. FX was not garbage. Of course it wasn't as good as Intel's offerings at the time, but the FX line was a perfectly capable low-budget solution.

OP, there is no one-size-fits-all response. For an FX6300, just slowly increase your multiplier while slowly increasing the voltage. Then run benchmarks to test stability and temperatures. Do not use OC Genie. If your system is crashing when overclocked, that may be why your OC setings are not saving (BIOS is reverting to default at the crash). With some patience, you should absolutely be able to hit 4ghz stable on a FX6300, that motherboard, and cooler. One thing I would recommend, is if you find a stable OC setting but slightly high temps, is to throw a second fan on your cooler, to have a push-pull configuration.
 
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You know, I guess I'll have to do that. I had a previous thread ages ago and was recommended to try a few different things-4.6ghz @ 1.45000V, 4.2 GHz at 1.30000V or 4.3ghz at a voltage that isn't really clear (1.33v I think?). Increasing the mhz clock is easy enough, I guess, but it seems to be what causes system instability and I'm not quite sure on what the relationship between the voltage and the clock is. And the issue still remains with the weird config in the Click Bios 4 of my MSI 990FXA Gaming mobo, where it doesn't let you set an actual value for the voltage but instead add a certain amount, I think?
 
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Yes, but that's by design to give you fine-tuning ability with the voltage. So after you select the voltage increase increment, to the left it will show you what your new cpu voltage will be.
 
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I think I found a stable config, but it's running very hot. According to CPU-Z it runs at 1.38-1.4v during load and 4.5ghz, but
the average temp is 73.3C, with a high of 80.8 and a low of 53.5. Any remedy to this? Is it an acceptable temp? I don't notice throttling and my games are having noticeably less drops. I got a BSOD early on but I changed the voltage and I think it should be good, my only concern are those temps.
 
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Those temps are way to high. Drop it down a bit. Can you throw a second fan on your tower cooler for push-pull?
 
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No, it's the Enermax ETS-N31 cooler which doesn't support a fan on the other side without a clip (I believe). I've actually always had unusually high temps even for FX CPUs with the stock cooler. It was a lot worse but I switched cases which helped a little, but I guess it's still pretty high.
 
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some helpful guides

http://www.overclock.net/forum/10-amd-cpus/1140459-bulldozer-overclocking-guide-performance-scaling-charts-max-ocs-ln2-results-coming.html

http://www.overclock.net/forum/10-amd-cpus/1348623-amd-bulldozer-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard.html#

fyi dont call a cpu trash when it has nothing do with the question please....the fx chip is strong enough for avg gaming....i twitch stream and play games at over 60fps@1080p no issue on one. yes it is outdated but theres people playing with older cpus then this out there

the basics of overclocking is to slowly raise your clock speed up without touching voltage till the system is unstable (using load test) then to bump the voltage up one or two notch's.....repeat this till you cant increase the speed even if you add voltage or if you hit your temp limits

your temp limits are better read from this

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html

the larger the thermal margin the more temp room you have....0c is the throttling point.....-1c and lower is overheating and throttling....thermal margin comes from the cpu die and is a more accurate temp reading then the motherboard sensor.....my recommendation is not to have a thermal margin of 15c or less....that way your 15c from max cpu temp...again the higher the reading the cooler your cpu so at idle your thermal margin will show 40-60c normally... as "thermal margin" is how far you are from the cpu max temp.
 
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Yeah, I came across that guide earlier and used AOD...it shows I'm 7 C over the margins under load and multiple softwares seem to agree it's at about 78 C under load (by load here I mean intensive gameplay/3dmark)
 
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