Is this a good PC for $300?

daredeviljr · Jul 22, 2018

My friend is trying to build a gaming computer for about $300, and I want to make sure that

1: This is a good computer and that it can play games

2: There will be no compatibility issues and I can just put it together and install Windows and get to gaming

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Here are the parts: (part list at the bottom)

CPU - Intel G4560 ($54)
Motherboard - MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 ($41)
Case - HEC - Enterprise ATX Mid Tower Case ($21)
Power Supply - EVGA BQ 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX
Video Card - GIGABYTE GEFORCE GTX 750Ti 4GB GDDR5 ($70)
RAM - Team - Elite Plus 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($39)
Hard Drive - Standard 1TB Hard Drive ($30)

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Totals to $281 - https://pcpartpicker.com/user/blpeters67/saved/#view=Wcf8YJ

I'm just trying to make sure there are no compatibility issues and that I've chosen good parts for the budget. I don't know if this is a good price for the graphics card or not, so I'm hoping I can get some criticism on that as well? I'm trying to sell it to him soooooooo

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Edit:

Budget: $300.00

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet browsing, Work

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, but not included in this budget

Parts to Upgrade: New computer nothing being upgraded

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: PC Part Picker

Parts Preferences: Nothing really

Overclocking: Probably not

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1080p 60hz

Ztdutxjgxgtu · Jul 22, 2018

I would pick i5 (7500) over pentium chip, even its over you budget
Try to get 2x4gb ram if you can

nobspls · Jul 22, 2018

1x4GB is probably too litttle memory. You want at least 2x4GB so you can get dual channel memory access for 2x memory bandwidth.

The 750ti is probably too ancient a GPU for current generation games. It may be adequate for what they want, but it is really not a good use of $70, when for $150 you can get a 1050ti which is substantially better and can play current generation games.

You probably want to make the budget $500 so the build can be substantially better and not be forced to spend money on stuff that is of low value.

daredeviljr · Jul 22, 2018

I would love to make the budget $500 but that extra $200 just doesn't exist

mgallo848 · Jul 22, 2018

At least make it 2 x 4 = 8gb of ram

He won't be playing ANYTHING except for minecraft with only 4 gigs.

Other than that, it's not bad considering the limited cash.

What games is he looking to play?

daredeviljr · Jul 22, 2018

mgallo848 :

Thanks for a response that wasn't telling me to completely change the budget... But yeah, I agree that 4GB of RAM is not very good. I upgraded it to 2x4GB of DDR4 (DDR4 memory right now is so expensive) and he's now reached his max budget (has $400, spent 80 on monitory, computer now costs 320.)

He's probably looking to play games like Minecraft, Terraria, and other games old Valve games like TF2, Counterstrike and whatnot. Which obviously the 750Ti can handle. It's also possible that he wants to play Fortnite, which I believe this system could do at 60FPS 1080p Low settings, but he probably won't play it since he already does so on his Switch.

Also, you don't see any compatibility issues, do you? I just want to make sure that the CPU, Mobo, and memory will all function together without having to flash bios or whatever, I don't really know how all that stuff works

mgallo848 · Jul 23, 2018

daredeviljr :

Everything looks good. I think it will play those games fine as long as he runs 2x4 8gb of ram. You really need to convince him to spend an extra $39 dollars. It will make a HUGE difference. Otherwise, his games are going to be an absolute lag-fast with only 4gb. Windows alone is going to eat up 2 GB (or more) of that 4gb.

Edit: Not to mention it will be 8 gb running in dual channel instead of 4 gb in single channel.

tejayd · Jul 23, 2018

I agree with at least 8 gigabytes of ram. I can't figure one under 300$ without used Ebay parts. And that's the way you would need to go. This might be a good case for the AMD Ryzen 5 2400g. I would think it can keep up with a 750ti. Something to think about. I would definitely go that way for the $$.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pKTfhy

mgallo848 · Jul 23, 2018

tejayd :

Unfortunatel;y no. The on-board GPU will get stomped by a 750ti. I saw some gaming reviews and you need to run on low @720 resolution to make it playable.

Ztdutxjgxgtu · Jul 23, 2018

Note that 2200g graphic is on par gt1030 and 750ti gives 2x more fps than 1030

tejayd · Jul 23, 2018

I don't know how accurate the website I'm posting is. But assuming it's something close.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-750-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-11-Ryzen-iGPU/2187vsm401440

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2400G/3892vsm433194

The build I posted above was 350$ with 8 gb ram and the integrated AMD graphics. The graphics score is close, and the cpu score is fairly large. It's also just more modern and something that should have a decent life span.

tejayd · Jul 23, 2018

I didnt see your posts. That solves that then.

volkgren · Jul 23, 2018

Ztdutxjgxgtu :

Can you provide some references to go with those claims? because I seriously doubt that. If it did it would be the exception and not the rule. From what I've seen the 750 Ti is about 15-20% faster than the GT 1030.

Somebody mentioned i5-7500; but that would be silly when you could get i3-8100 for less.

If you're trying to stick to budget, the Pentium Gold G5400 is another choice that would give you the 8th-gen platform for future CPU upgrades. You would also need a B360 or H310 motherboard to go with it.

And I agree that 8GB is the minimum for a gaming system.

daredeviljr · Jul 23, 2018

volkgren :

The only upgrade I can really see being made in the future is the graphics card, which will probably get bumped up to a 1050Ti or 1060 someday, but that's not until at least another year down the road. Probably longer, I dunno

daredeviljr · Jul 23, 2018

tejayd :

I don't really want to run an APU because the GPU might be upgraded in the future.

Davil · Jul 23, 2018

4gb is the minimum amount of RAM for Windows 10, and it's absolutely horrible. Need 8gb or anytime you open anything you'll be waiting.

daredeviljr · Jul 23, 2018

Davil :

Agreed, I should've put 8 GB in the original build. Don't worry, I've already updated it

mgallo848 · Jul 23, 2018

His current combo:
CPU = $54
Motherboard = 41
GPU = 70

Total = 165

Ryzen 2200G CPU motherboard combo = 165

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3835377

The major difference also is the Ryzen uses the memory as Vram
Not to mention the performance with only 2133 will be HORRIBLE. It needs at least DDR 3000

My opinion: I would stick with your setup but get 8 gigs

https://youtu.be/A5FiwITzm3M?t=3m34s

tejayd · Jul 23, 2018

I did have the faster 3000 ram in the apu build.

mgallo848 · Jul 23, 2018

tejayd :

Yes but single channel only.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad build that you picked out but single channel is going kill the CPU AND GPU performance. They will both suffer.

If you look at some reviews, even the standard Ryzen chips with a dedicated video card loses alot of fps in several games when it isn't set up properly with the memory it needs.

If his friend has $100 more to spend I would say yes get the Ryzen with dual channel 3000.

daredeviljr · Jul 23, 2018

mgallo848 :

tejayd :

Yes but single channel only.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad build that you picked out but single channel is going kill the CPU AND GPU performance. They will both suffer.

If you look at some reviews, even the standard Ryzen chips with a dedicated video card loses alot of fps in several games when it isn't set up properly with the memory it needs.

If his friend has $100 more to spend I would say yes get the Ryzen with dual channel 3000.

Don't worry, there will be at least dual channel memory, 8GB.

failboat · Jul 23, 2018

I'd really try and move the budget up to atleast get gtx 1050 and 8G ram.

daredeviljr · Jul 23, 2018

failboat :

we're getting 8GB of RAM, but unfortunately a 1050 can't happen. That's mainly why I didn't want to go with an APU though, because there may be future upgrades

daredeviljr · Jul 24, 2018

So, I'm just gonna go with upgrading this to 8GB of RAM. Should've done that in the first place. My main question never got answered though; are there any incompatibilities with this system?

mgallo848 · Jul 25, 2018

No. Its good to go

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