Geforce GFX 1060 6GB or RX 580 for new AMD Build

spiet · Oct 23, 2018

Hi,

Still not decided. I'm building a new system with an Ryzen 2600 and asrock b450 mainboard.

Since i'll probably get an ASUS 4k monitor that has freesynch, what graphic card would be better? If i chose the rx 580 i'll get freesync but the geforce won't allow me this.

However i'm not really into high end gaming (since i have my consoles) so what do you think?

Thanks

volkgren · Oct 23, 2018

With Freesync I'd get the RX 580. The RX 580 is not really considered a 4K gaming GPU. If you don't mind 30fps then I guess it would be okay.

ChumP · Oct 23, 2018

Thr RX 580 should be the better option for you. Even though the GTX 1060 wins by a really small margin, having freesync + the rx 580 is cheaper, would be the better deal.
Neither of those GPUs will handle 4k really well though.

spiet · Oct 23, 2018

Do you then mean 4k gaming? Or just 4k in general (desktop resolution etc) ?

King_V · Oct 23, 2018

4k gaming. 4k in general for non-gaming purposes, almost any card can handle.

My understanding is that the RX580 8GB and GTX 1060 6GB are about neck and neck, with overall the 580 having a slight edge.

For all intents and purposes, they are equal when it comes to gaming performance. In the case of 4k, if you do any gaming with modern games, you'll have to run the games at a lower resolution if you want reasonable frame rates, as 4k is too much for either of those cards (for modern AAA games).

Overall use, though? I use an old Haswell Pentium's integrated Intel graphics on an Ultrawide 4K (which is 3840x1600 versus a normal 4K's 3840x2160). An RX580 or GTX 1060 can handle it WAY more easily that the integrated Intel graphics.

The FreeSync is really used for gaming purposes, to adjust the monitor's refresh up and down on the fly based on whether the graphics card can keep up.

spiet · Oct 23, 2018

Ok thanks so with the asus vp28uqg that supports freesync i better go with a RX580 8GB card instead of the geforce gtx 1060 6gb.

King_V · Oct 23, 2018

I would also say that, unless you really need 4K resolution for specific purposes, going with a lower resolution monitor at 28 inches might be a better idea.

volkgren · Oct 23, 2018

King_V :

It doesn't adjust the refresh rate, but the frames output by the GPU.

King_V · Oct 23, 2018

volkgren :

Um, based on everything I've read (and just double-checked to be sure), the GPU does whatever it can (subject to any limit set by Chill), but the monitor adapts to match the output of the GPU.

volkgren · Oct 23, 2018

The refresh rate doesn't change. The adaptive sync module syncs the frames with the monitors refresh rate by (this is my understanding,I could be wrong) holding them when frame rate is too high or duplicating them when frame rate is too low.

*Update: Yeah i guess I'm wrong. Idk where i got that info but it doesn't seem to line up with Nvidia's description of gsync.

**Sounds like I was describing vsync perhaps.

spiet · Oct 23, 2018

So 4k desktop (internet, just normal office use) might not be alright with the above cards? Do you guys advise more powerful cards? Or is the rx 580 or the gfx 1060 6gb still a good bet?

volkgren · Oct 23, 2018

Those cards are more than enough for internet and video at 4k. Gaming is what will be less than you'd expect froma nice gaming rig if running 4k.

King_V · Oct 23, 2018

spiet :

Just about ANY low end video card will handle that. Even, say, an RX550 or a GT 1030. They can do all the normal office use, web browsing, etc., that you'd need.

It's gaming at 4K where they'll fall short.

But, if gaming is not a concern, you might go with a Ryzen 2200g or a 2400g. Then you have enough for basic office use, and you don't have to buy a video card since integrated video comes with the Ryzen 2x00g chips.

King_V · Oct 23, 2018

volkgren :

No worries - but I did have a panicked moment when I wondered if *I'd* had it backwards the whole time! :ouch:

spiet · Oct 23, 2018

Alright so i better stick with a rx 580 card instead of a gfx 1060 6gb since everybody says they are on par. That will also allow me to use freesync with my new monitor whenever i need it.

Is driver support the same as well since Nvidia is pretty updated and solid?

Any particular brands for a Rx580? MSI, Asus, .... ?

King_V · Oct 24, 2018

There are people who claim that AMD's drivers are crap. There are others who claim Nvidia's drivers are crap.

I've generally owned AMD cards for the past several years, and much more recently, Nvidia. I can't say I've had trouble with either of them. User-interface-wise, AMD's seem more polished and a more pleasant experience to use them, whereas Nvidia's look dated from a UI point of view.

Still, I don't think either of them have problems in terms of functionality and stability.

volkgren · Oct 24, 2018

There's an ongoing conspiracy that Nvidia intentionally nerfs performance with drivers for older cards to boost sales of new cards. While also believing that AMD's performance doesn't decline as much on their older cards and their drivers only get better. I've seen evidence for it to be true and also to be false. Either way, I think it has to do with vram because AMD typically has more. This really only matters if you use the card for long enough that games use more than the 6GB on the 1060.

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