Ryzen Threadripper 7000 Listings Hint at AMD's Return to HEDT

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@momomo_us on Twitter has published a new set of listings showing off an entire list of AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7000 CPU models, with many of them being identified as "Mass Market" SKUs. The new listing confirms that Zen 4 Threadripper is well on its way and should be coming out very soon. The list also includes several chip identification numbers featuring part numbers and OPNs that will make it easy to identify these CPUs in future benchmark reports. 

The best news of all is that AMD could be returning to the HEDT market, with the new listing highlighting two different Threadripper segments, 7000WX Pro and 7000 (vanilla Non-Pro). This could be the first time AMD has emerged back onto the HEDT market, since the Zen 2 era when it announced it would not make HEDT chips for that generation, and will bring ultra-high core counts back to the high-end consumer desktop market.

We still don't know all of the architectural design changes AMD is putting into Threadripper 7000, but we do know that it should feature AMD's latest Zen 4 CPU architecture operating on TSMC's 5nm node according to an AMD roadmap update back in 2022.

If AMD doesn't do anything unusual, Zen 4 Threadripper should be a quadruple CCD version of AMD's Ryzen 7000 desktop CPUs, with massive improvements to core counts, memory channels, PCIe lanes, and I/O. We suspect AMD will regulate its maximum core count SKU to 64 cores, just like the past two generations of Threadripper parts, but there's still a chance AMD might increase core counts this generation to improve multi-core performance.

With Intel back in the workstation market with its W-3400 and W-2400 series CPUs, there's a chance AMD will want to do something exotic with its Threadripper parts to make them stand out, but we'll have to wait until AMD's official announcement to see what happens.

Aaron Klotz
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Aaron Klotz is a freelance writer for Tom’s Hardware US, covering news topics related to computer hardware such as CPUs, and graphics cards.

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  • Metal Messiah.
    Zen 4 Threadripper should be a quadruple CCD version of AMD's Ryzen 7000 desktop CPUs, with massive improvements to core counts, memory channels, PCIe lanes, and I/O

    You can add the socket type as well. LGA-6096 (SP5) for WS, and LGA-4096 (SP6) or most likely LGA4844 socket for HEDT.

    So based on the document, we have 2 families. Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7900 CPUs as listed under the "79x5WX" family for workstation PCs, and the Ryzen Threadripper 7900 CPUs as the "79x0X" family for HEDT PCs.

    Let's now compare and see how they stack up. HEDT segment lineup:
    AMD HEDT: Threadripper 7000 (5nm Zen 4) / 4-Channel DDR5 / 64 PCIe Gen 5 / 4844 SP6 Socket
    Intel HEDT: Xeon W-2400 (10nm Golden Cove / 4-Channel DDR5 / 64 PCIe Gen 5 / LGA 4677 SocketFor the workstation segment, we have:
    AMD WS: Threadripper 7000 (5nm Zen 4) / 8-Channel DDR5 / 128 PCIe Gen 5 / 6096 SP5 Socket (Lacks OC capabilities for both CPU & memory).
    Intel WS: Xeon W-3400 (10nm Golden Cove / 8-Channel DDR5 / 112 PCIe Gen 5 / LGA 4677 Socket
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  • MetalScythe
    Quadruple CCD (meaning four)… with massive improvements to core count?

    Those two statements are diametrically opposing. Their core-count-per-CCD is still 8 cores for vanilla Zen 4 (apparently 16 for density-optimized Zen 4c). 8x4=32. Zen 3 TR maxed at 64 cores at 8 CCDs, let alone Zen 4, which maxes at 96 cores (8x12=96).
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  • MetalScythe
    Metal Messiah. said:
    You can add the socket type as well. LGA-6096 (SP5) for WS, and LGA-4096 (SP6) or most likely LGA4844 socket for HEDT.

    So based on the document, we have 2 families. Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7900 CPUs as listed under the "79x5WX" family for workstation PCs, and the Ryzen Threadripper 7900 CPUs as the "79x0X" family for HEDT PCs.

    Let's now compare and see how they stack up. HEDT segment lineup:
    AMD HEDT: Threadripper 7000 (5nm Zen 4) / 4-Channel DDR5 / 64 PCIe Gen 5 / 4844 SP6 Socket
    Intel HEDT: Xeon W-2400 (10nm Golden Cove / 4-Channel DDR5 / 64 PCIe Gen 5 / LGA 4677 SocketFor the workstation segment, we have:
    AMD WS: Threadripper 7000 (5nm Zen 4) / 8-Channel DDR5 / 128 PCIe Gen 5 / 6096 SP5 Socket (Lacks OC capabilities for both CPU & memory).
    Intel WS: Xeon W-3400 (10nm Golden Cove / 8-Channel DDR5 / 112 PCIe Gen 5 / LGA 4677 Socket
    Yeah, I’m thinking consumer Threadripper 79xx is going to use the Siena socket.
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  • Steve Nord_
    High End DeskTop CPU ugh. Jes' need the Engineering workstations to back up on an insulated heat pump wall, with I guess low grade heat applications (400°C ?) on the other side. There's your 4x 3 kW heat radiators. Maybe those vanadium batteries for backup power and a chemical loop...

    Lucky whoever get to use rooftop solar or wind, pedaling for 16 kW (plus cooling yourself and that, another 4 kW) is 5x superhuman. Maybe TSMC will make claims to doing that though?
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  • thestryker
    HEDT has been dead since Threadripper 3000 launched. The huge pricing delta from then still exists and the entry CPUs are flat out slower than the premium desktop counterparts. When HEDT first arrived until TR 3000 the price premium between highest desktop and lowest HEDT was 20-30%. The performance was close to the same (or better in some generations) in lightly threaded and better in multithreaded.

    Example using SPR (in US):
    w5-2455x (lowest OC CPU), motherboard and RAM are about $2400
    13900k/13900ks/7950x/7950x3d, motherboard (trying to keep similar quality as WS) and RAM are about $1200

    The Xeon will not beat either of those desktop processors in performance so it's only offering the platform itself. Zen 4 Threadripper won't be any cheaper than the prices Intel is charging. These are just workstation chips and both companies have two tiers (2000/3000 and TR/TR Pro) of them.
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