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China: Green Dam Project Will Go Ahead

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8:01 AM - July 2, 2009 by Jane McEntegart

The Chinese government has confirmed that its plans to roll out filtering software on all PCs sold in mainland China has not been canceled.

Green Dam was initially supposed to be preinstalled on all machines shipped after July 1 and when the Chinese government announced a delay in the late evening of June 30 because some PC manufacturers needed more time to meet the deadline, many assumed this was China's way of saying, "maybe this wasn’t such a good idea after all."

Unfortunately, celebrations in China were premature as the Government today clarified that yes, it has been postponed but that it was only a matter of time before Green Dam was mandatory.

"The government will definitely carry on the directive on Green Dam. It's just a matter of time," an MIIT (Ministry of Industry and Information Technology) official told China Daily on condition of anonymity.

The official went on to say that copyright infringement claims were not the reason for the delay, referring to California-based Solid Oak's claims that company responsible for the Green Dam software stole code from its own web-filtering program. The official said that despite some manufacturers not being ready yet, it will not stop the roll out completely.

"What will happen is that some PC manufacturers will have it included with their PC packages sooner than the others," he said. "But there is no definite deadline at the moment."

Read the full story on China Daily.

Source : Tom's Hardware US

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Anonymous 07/02/2009 2:37 PM
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Its a country I'm happy not to live in.

battery 07/02/2009 4:29 PM
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I give it a week.

crom 07/02/2009 5:08 PM
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Why not sue China for copyright infringement? I mean they did steal the code from a different software project for their green dam software. Live linux distros are another way around it.

Flying Sq 07/02/2009 5:27 PM
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Just curious, but at this point, why not just reformat once you get it?

TommySch 07/02/2009 5:56 PM
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Its irrelevant anyway, a crack will be on the internet in a matter of days, if not hours.

NYCGPS 07/02/2009 6:00 PM
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Kooja :
Its a country I'm happy not to live in.



I guess you're happy to live in a country thats full of "fake" freedom. oh wait, thats US :)

-unknown- 07/02/2009 6:16 PM
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I truly hope they keep fighting against it although you can't help but feel doubtful when protests such as the ones in Iran don't seem to provide fruitful efforts (yet).

ehanger 07/02/2009 6:24 PM
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The Chinese citizens are too brainwashed to even notice how oppressive their government is.

Anonymous 07/02/2009 7:01 PM
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As long as there's cheap, oppressed labor in China, we will continue to trade with them. As long as they continue to outnumber us and have a reasonably strong military, we will never "invade/liberate" them. We only pick on smaller countries, and even then, we weaken them with trade sanctions for a decade or two before we invade. Enough with the empire, it's an epic fail, let's fix our country before we fix anyone else's.

NYCGPS 07/02/2009 8:16 PM
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ehanger :
The Chinese citizens are too brainwashed to even notice how oppressive their government is.



When it comes to brainwashing, US should be #1

researchthis 07/02/2009 8:48 PM
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NYCGPS :
When it comes to brainwashing, US should be #1



Wait, I thought the America bashing was supposed to stop when we elected Obama. Doh! Looks like I was brainwashed!

p05esto 07/02/2009 10:42 PM
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The US isn't better. We talk freedom, but it's almost all gone. It's fake, not real freedom. The government and its agencies control and have strict rules on everything. Russia has less rules than US, Canada also. Why can't I go into a pharmacy and buy some painkillers for goodness sake? Why does DEA have to be involved, or RIAA or FDA or IRS and on and on and on. Those organizations all started out on the right track, small and actually helpful. Now they're just opressive, massive and worse than most other countries. The US is NOT free, becoming less so every day under this new "big government" president.

falchard 07/03/2009 12:30 PM
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Sony

falchard 07/03/2009 12:30 PM
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Sony Rejoices.

Anonymous 07/03/2009 1:22 AM
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The US is brainwashed into thinking we are free... That was never our history, we rebelled against the British, but we kept institutionalized racism and slavery around longer than any of Europe... The only good thing we had going was that we had no income tax whatsoever until 1913, but with the creation of the Federal Reserve and the IRS after WWI, most of our prosperity has been nothing but the largest Ponzi scheme ever, dependant on an ever growing population to keep it going, we aren't going to pay off the national debt, ever... They continually raise taxes to make the minimum payments on it, but it's reaching it's breaking point. In less than 100 years, they've created over 100 different taxes...

hemelskonijn 07/03/2009 2:05 AM
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For those who cant read and talk about cracks and the likes:

The greendam software will be installed on some system but there is no obligation what so ever to install it or to keep it running.
Simply clicking uninstall removes the software and though system manufactures are obligated to provide the installation files its not likely that they will install it on all their systems since handing over the installation files gives the end user the choice and should make us in the "not publicly suppressed world" feel better about their gain in freedom.

I am in no way for censorship though you guys proof that its so hard to use your freedom to read up on something before you start spewing the opinions you feel you have the right to express that in some way i can understand any one stating that the western world is filled with idiots.

If your afraid that in the (near) future running green dam will be an obligation thats another pie.
Yes that would be wrong and there should be something done to prevent that however again spewing your aimless and mostly ignorant thoughts wont do any thing for any one.

Anonymous 07/03/2009 2:16 AM
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I'm just gonna ramble for a bit..... I just don't get it... why an importer doesn't have a say on what kind of software is being installed with a PC that is being manufactured in china that has been designated for export out of that country. I don't care to have yet another "helping" software that my computers comes with. PCs these days are plagued with pre-installed garbage that 1) slows down the computer because an average mortal doesn't know how to get rid off it so he/she is plagued with renewal popups and such 2) takes up space and actually prevents you from installing software you purchase from stores (again going back to security software that lurks around telling you that this is not meeting some standard).

So I may be understanding it wrong, and please correct me if I'm wrong... I purchase a new PC and it may come with some chinese developed software that will keep me safe from porn, and in the same time gather my internet browsing habits. Yes, simple answer is uninstall it, but is it really uninstalled..? If it is so easy to remove it, why is it there to begin with? Most kids these days have their parents passwords, or a way of knowing them.

Another easy way of getting rid of this completely is to reformat... yea like I want to waste any more time setting up a new computer... and what if my PC does not come with a set of restore discs... do I create them and unknowingly install green dam all over again? uuuuugh please...

hemelskonijn 07/03/2009 2:46 AM
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ccbccc:

If your not Chinese (as in live in china and buy your computer system there) there is no way in hell you will ever get greendam distributed with your pc.
And even if you are just that you still would have to install it yourself if you would want to use it in the most likely scenario.
In the less likely scenario your would have to hit uninstall 41x of which 1x is for greendam 40x is for all the other bloathware on your freshly bought system.


Greendam wont gather any thing it will only make sure you cant browse the web free and thus wont see any porn (and more worry some a lot of other things on the web).
Dont ever assume otherwise since not everything is as evil as it is made out to be.
If you still have your doubts import a system that includes greendam or just get the software to find out for yourself.

Other then in example norton products uninstalled is uninstalled period no paranoia needed here at this point.
Though this might change in the (near) future there is no reason to feel sorry for those poor Chinese people about his at this time about this specific point.

Your moronic comment about restore disk sets should be easy to figure out even for you, common what would happend if you make a recovery disk set of any dell or lenovo system ? do you get the symantec stuff all over again ?, its more or less the same way as all OEM stuff shit down your throat only this time its government regulation.

Again i am against censorship though since you need to run this on your own free will it seems kind of redundant to complain about this software while most of china is behind a huge firewall.

If this software is going to replace the huge firewall it would mean the people of the people's republic of china are finally free to surf the web if they chose not to install it as such is their right !
So this could (could as in not likely but possible) turn in to a good thing if we let it ...

demonhorde665 07/03/2009 11:06 AM
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as if we didnt see this coming ?

I say if i were a PCcompany i'd tell china to go f--- themselves , then i';d take my buisness else where, f--king stupid chinese goverment thinks they can force eer one to do what they want , .. sure in thier land yeah but who says opc makers have to sell them shit.


sorry to you chinese citizens i knwo it aint your fault , but hey you knwo what .,. go f--- your goverment witha 10 ft dildo !!! grow some balls and start fighting them already hell your army is 2 milion strong but you knwo what your civilan population is ten times larger so quit being pussies and standing for this shit already, other3wise i don't want to hear you cry aobut your problems.

demonhorde665 07/03/2009 11:09 AM
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hemelskonijn :
For those who cant read and talk about cracks and the likes:The greendam software will be installed on some system but there is no obligation what so ever to install it or to keep it running.Simply clicking uninstall removes the software and though system manufactures are obligated to provide the installation files its not likely that they will install it on all their systems since handing over the installation files gives the end user the choice and should make us in the "not publicly suppressed world" feel better about their gain in freedom.I am in no way for censorship though you guys proof that its so hard to use your freedom to read up on something before you start spewing the opinions you feel you have the right to express that in some way i can understand any one stating that the western world is filled with idiots.If your afraid that in the (near) future running green dam will be an obligation thats another pie.Yes that would be wrong and there should be something done to prevent that however again spewing your aimless and mostly ignorant thoughts wont do any thing for any one.



yeah right , i'm sure teh "unistall" button with come a free warnign ssyttem taht alerts the goverment to your unisitalling , then you get a free visit from the MP's while you are asleep in your bed then know one ever sees you again !!!!!

demonhorde665 07/03/2009 11:11 AM
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NYCGPS :
I guess you're happy to live in a country thats full of "fake" freedom. oh wait, thats US



all "freedom" is fake you dumbass pickign at the US over their fake freedom doesnt make your country any better. but i can guarantee you , i can walk down my streat witha shirt that says my president sucks dick , and you knwo what .. i wont go to jail for it or mystriously go disapearing in the night ... try that in china and see what happens

NYCGPS 07/03/2009 2:18 PM
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demonhorde665 :
all "freedom" is fake you dumbass pickign at the US over their fake freedom doesnt make your country any better. but i can guarantee you , i can walk down my streat witha shirt that says my president sucks dick , and you knwo what .. i wont go to jail for it or mystriously go disapearing in the night ... try that in china and see what happens



Hey smarty, in fact. I have a shirt that saids "I dont like our leaders" in chinese and walk around in Guangzhou, hey sucker, Im still in one whole piece and nope I did NOT disappeared overnight.

But if I put a shirt on that saids "kill the president", thats a total different story of course. BUT I DARE YOU to put that on and walk around in New York. You will disappeared overnight, BITCH ! I guarantee you.

Go back to your history 101 class first and check. ever since the West meets East, the west HAS ALWAYS BEEN trying to bully if not attack the East WHENEVER possible. Back then it was warships/armies. Now? not possible of course, the East is actuallyer stronger. so whats there left to do? media attack whenever possible.

I just love a line from Mao Zhe Dong. "USA is NOTHING but a PAPER TIGER"

damn straight ! hahaha :)

I am not a communist, in fact I dont live in China right now, ever noticed my name? but People who said shit about China often are the ones that has never visited China. They still thinks that China is full of bicycles and farms. In fact, many cities in China are WAY more modernized than US.

NYCGPS 07/03/2009 2:22 PM
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The end of capitalism is nothing but socialism. Just remember that.

OH HAIL ! FAKE FREEDOM !!!!

hemelskonijn 07/03/2009 4:55 PM
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demonhorde665:

Your sure the uninstall button calls home ?, why dont you post your concerns including a proof of concept here ?
I mean common dont act like a moron and either go back to being some wannabe elite moron in your computer games or learn to write a well grounded reply.

astrodudepsu 07/04/2009 7:46 AM
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NYCGPS :
Hey smarty, in fact. I have a shirt that saids "I dont like our leaders" in chinese and walk around in Guangzhou, hey sucker, Im still in one whole piece and nope I did NOT disappeared overnight. But if I put a shirt on that saids "kill the president", thats a total different story of course. BUT I DARE YOU to put that on and walk around in New York. You will disappeared overnight, BITCH ! I guarantee you.Go back to your history 101 class first and check. ever since the West meets East, the west HAS ALWAYS BEEN trying to bully if not attack the East WHENEVER possible. Back then it was warships/armies. Now? not possible of course, the East is actuallyer stronger. so whats there left to do? media attack whenever possible. I just love a line from Mao Zhe Dong. "USA is NOTHING but a PAPER TIGER" damn straight ! hahaha I am not a communist, in fact I dont live in China right now, ever noticed my name? but People who said shit about China often are the ones that has never visited China. They still thinks that China is full of bicycles and farms. In fact, many cities in China are WAY more modernized than US.




China IS full of bikes and farms you dolt! Have you ever been farther inland than 100 miles off the coast? A VAST majority of China is still VERY poor and backwards. Lots of places without running water and sewage!

Here's another quote from Admiral Yamamoto concerning that paper tiger you mention, "In the first six to twelve months of a war with the United States and Great Britain I will run wild and win victory upon victory. But then, if the war continues after that, I have no expectation of success."

Guess what, he was right.

NYCGPS 07/04/2009 2:45 PM
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rofl.

Are you trying to tell me that US is "not" full of farms and bikes? LMAO

Most areas are farms. wonder where those corns for ethanol came from ? As for bikes, rofl. go look around in NYC, all these fuxking bikers(not motor bikes) going back and forth in the city area, for a few times I thought that I was in China LMAO ROFL !!!

As for the war thing, how many wars did US actually won? the only one was vs Japanese. vs North Korea the US got whooped, Vietnam got whooped, Iraq got whooped, etc. rofl LOL !

astrodudepsu 07/05/2009 6:24 AM
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It's obvious you can read English, but I seriously doubt your ability to understand it. YOU said this, "They still thinks that China is full of bicycles and farms." Which I said was in fact true. NO WHERE in my post or your post was it ever mentioned about the US being full of bikes and farms, the only country mentioned was China with respect to bikes and farms.

China is still far less advanced with respect to basic infrastructure than the US. The difference is, in the US 'farm' lands, they have electricity, internet, running water, etc. This cannot be said for everywhere in rural China.

Wars the United States of America has won, or had a part in winning.

-The American Revolution
-The War of 1812
-The Mexican-American War
-The Civil War (admittedly kind of hard to lose this one)
-The Spanish American War transitioning to the Philippine-American War
-World War I
-World War II
-First Gulf War
-Second Gulf War

tonkatuffmofo 07/09/2009 3:51 PM
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demonhorde665 :
all "freedom" is fake you dumbass pickign at the US over their fake freedom doesnt make your country any better. but i can guarantee you , i can walk down my streat witha shirt that says my president sucks dick , and you knwo what .. i wont go to jail for it or mystriously go disapearing in the night ... try that in china and see what happens



Thats great but perhaps instead of wandering down the street wearing some attention seeking shirt you could spend more time at school learning the "english" language. That crap you typed above is bordering on retarded. If your the future of America god help us. Oh and no Im not chinese, Im an aussie :)

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