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New MacBook Airs Are Shipping Without Flash

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Well this is interesting. Apple is shipping the new MacBook Airs without Flash, but not for the reason you might think.

Apple has made its feeling towards Flash abundantly clear. So, when reports started rolling in that the new MacBook Airs were shipping without Flash pre-installed, many people assumed it was because Apple had gone from not liking Flash to REALLY not liking Flash and just not told anyone.

Well apparently that's not the case. The reason the new MacBook Airs don't ship with Flash is because Apple wants to ensure users get the most up to date version of the software. Engadget cites Apple spokesperson Bill Evans as saying this is something that users will start to see with all new Macs as time goes on.

"We're happy to continue to support Flash on the Mac, and the best way for users to always have the most up to date and secure version is to download it directly from Adobe," said Evans.

Source: Engadget

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    Trashit , October 24, 2010 3:51 PM
    If I had spidy senses they'd be tingling right now. People do know that flash can and does include an auto update feature? Bill Evans's comments are definitely registering a high reading on my bullshit-ometer.
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    stingstang , October 24, 2010 3:52 PM
    Jane. How did you get that picture of me? And what sort of camera has a shutter speed that fast?
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    cookoy , October 24, 2010 3:51 PM
    wonder if that reason applies also to QuickTime?
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    warezme , October 24, 2010 3:49 PM
    BS, why not just ship the expensive trinket without an OS..., that way when the user gets it, they can download and install the LATEST version and be sure to have the have the BEST experience EVER!
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    Trashit , October 24, 2010 3:51 PM
    If I had spidy senses they'd be tingling right now. People do know that flash can and does include an auto update feature? Bill Evans's comments are definitely registering a high reading on my bullshit-ometer.
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    cookoy , October 24, 2010 3:51 PM
    wonder if that reason applies also to QuickTime?
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    stingstang , October 24, 2010 3:52 PM
    Jane. How did you get that picture of me? And what sort of camera has a shutter speed that fast?
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    captaincharisma , October 24, 2010 4:01 PM
    does any new computer come with flash really? i had to download and install flash for my PC laptop i got back in June
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    dkant1n , October 24, 2010 4:33 PM
    TrashitIf I had spidy senses they'd be tingling right now. People do know that flash can and does include an auto update feature? Bill Evans's comments are definitely registering a high reading on my bullshit-ometer.


    Most people see a warning or anything and just close it. I see you don't work providing user support lol
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    digiex , October 24, 2010 4:42 PM
    What? no flash? "It's because it's a laptop, it's not a digital camera."
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    Haserath , October 24, 2010 5:17 PM
    Maybe we should say something to Apple to get them to wake up...
    You aren't pre-installing it right...

    Well, I do hope that we get to use the best software(html5), but Apple is going about this all wrong; they are just hurting themselves while trying to kill flash.
    Who knows if HTML5 has any huge flaws anyway, since it hasn't been used that much yet.
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    pcfxer , October 24, 2010 5:25 PM
    Flash isn't in the default install anyway. Should we have an article saying that Windows hasn't ever shipped with Flash? Get a life and make real articles...back to anandtech...
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    vittau , October 24, 2010 5:31 PM
    Well, it does make sense.
    IMO they should ship it without any third-party software (if there is any other... I don't know, I've never had an Apple computer).
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    bv90andy , October 24, 2010 6:17 PM
    how about an "Update" button/link on desktop?
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    deletemach_kernel , October 24, 2010 6:27 PM
    i wonder if software update would atleast show it..... if it doesn't, then, well, lets just say that stupid explanation is a whole lot of faggy bs.......

    coz if i dl it directly from adobe ..... then i will have to use app fresh to check for updates.....


    wonder if apple forgot about adobe air ?????

    no "AIR" for the macbook Air ;)  !!!!!!!
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    danwat1234 , October 24, 2010 6:57 PM
    Son of a bit*h.. I thought the article meant that new Macbook Airs were shipping without FLASH secondary Storage. Oh but not, your talking about software.

    Dare I say a misleading article title?
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    eklipz330 , October 24, 2010 7:16 PM
    danwat1234Son of a bit*h.. I thought the article meant that new Macbook Airs were shipping without FLASH secondary Storage. Oh but not, your talking about software.Dare I say a misleading article title?

    im sure if she meant that, she wudda wrote SSD
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    thesupermedium , October 24, 2010 7:47 PM
    Jesus Christ people, this is getting ridiculous!

    "Let's watch the tiny things a company does and inflate them to epic proportions!"

    If Apple wanted to ship it without Flash support because they didn't like the CEO, that's their business, and if you don't like them for doing that, THEN DON'T BUY FROM THEM!
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    SneakySnake , October 24, 2010 7:53 PM
    Like almost zero PC's ship with flash. Why is this a big deal?
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    Anonymous , October 24, 2010 7:56 PM
    I'm not an apple fan, but I like this. Considering a vast majority of malway/spyware is delivered via PDF/Flash, this is a good move. Apple already has their own custom PDF viewer on mac os to prevent this, but flash is just terrible.

    If you work in customer support or IT, you know that Adobe releases security updates to Flash AT LEAST once a week. Script kiddies/China is actively exploiting idiot users (which is >90% of computer users, more for Apple. They're not going to update their software.). If you buy a mac that's been sitting on the shelf for a few months, it is going to be easily owned via a flash exploit (much like a vanilla XP install is now).

    Hate to take Apple's side here, but they're right. Why should they have to jump through hoops to secure someone ELSE's software? Flash needs to die in a fire.
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    Vladislaus , October 24, 2010 8:48 PM
    People can still install it, so it's not a problem that the laptop doesn't come with it installed.
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    LuckyDucky7 , October 24, 2010 8:49 PM
    Or maybe they should just copy what Linux installers do- when you install those, they automatically update every package that was in the distribution when it was released. This also includes Flash, for that matter.

    Since the Mac pre-installer already knows what hardware is in the machine (it has to select between all of 3 drivers), all you have to do is make Internet connectivity a requirement (because if you can't afford internet access, you probably can't afford a Mac), and wait a bit while it updates. This way, you always have the most up-to-date software

    This concept shouldn't just apply to Flash- it applies to every iProgram that is on the machine, including the OS core itself.

    And also, your reason is that "You just don't like Flash." We can see that. But please, make the experience easier- as you say, Macs are supposed to "just work" with everything. Don't be partial.
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    pocketdrummer , October 24, 2010 10:31 PM
    They might as well ship it without software in general if that's their stance.

    It's a lame excuse for what they're really trying to accomplish.
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