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Epic Disses Crytek, Claims Engine Dominance

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Epic's Mike Capps doesn't understand why everyone takes Crytek so seriously.

Epic Games president Mike Capps, the biggest driving force behind the company's push to license its Unreal Engine to developers, recently questioned the hype surrounding Crytek's competing gaming engine, CryEngine 3. At the same time, Capps believes that Unreal Engine 4, when released, will be the market-leading development engine for upcoming PC games and next-generation console titles.

But although a little mud-slinging is expected between rival companies, what's his big beef against Crytek? In a nutshell, he's surprised anyone takes the studio seriously since the previous engine--CryEngine 2--didn't appear on the consoles as originally planned.

"It’s difficult for us to know what their position is," he said in a recent interview. "They’ve positioned themselves strongly as the 'we're gonna be on console, push one button and it’s great on all three platforms' engine. Warhead was going to come out in 2008 and was going to be their first big console game, and then they just cut console development from CryEngine 2 entirely, and suddenly we had a new engine. So, they’ve yet to ship an Xbox 360 game and we’re five years in. It surprises me that people take them seriously as a cross-platform engine company. We don’t know how to compete against a company that hasn’t shipped yet. It’s all potential, so we’ll see.”

As for the Unreal Engine 4, the outlook for the next generation is somewhat murky compared to the last round, leaving the team rather nervous. Still, Capps seemed rather excited on the PC front. "If you look at what’s happening in the PC market--Larrabee and all that--it’s really taking off, and I think the jump to next generation’s going to be another really big one, which is great for tech guys. Most likely, you’re not going to want to make that massive investment yourself, you’re going to look to come to a company like Epic."

Yep, despite all the console love, Epic still seems to care about the PC gamers. Now is a good time to bring out Unreal 3, no?

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AMW1011 05/11/2010 9:28 PM
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Sounds like he is getting worried, a new major engine in to run with UR4 would definitely be nice, especially if the Cryengine 3 can produce the same amazing graphics and good physics much more efficiently than Cryengine2.

RipperjackAU 05/11/2010 9:30 PM
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... but does Unreal play Crysis?

You have to ask, given the nature of the story, compairing one to the other.

warezme 05/11/2010 9:34 PM
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the guy sounds like a moron, "Larrabee and all--its really taking off" ???? WTF & Whatever. New Unreal engine? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

BoxBabaX 05/11/2010 9:36 PM
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RipperjackAU :
... but does Unreal play Crysis?You have to ask, given the nature of the story, compairing one to the other.



hahahaha :)

Anonymous 05/11/2010 9:38 PM
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Kelavarus 05/11/2010 9:46 PM
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What? Larrabee? Someone hasn't been reading the news.

At "Does Unreal play Crysis", check out the demo map from the newest version of UDK. :) Not quite there yet, but it's getting close. I think the biggest downfall of Unreal Engine 3.5 right now is probably lack of antialiasing.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Unreal 4, though this kind of annoys me. Last we heard, they were angling towards consoles, now they seem to flipping and talking about PCs. Perhaps the rage of the PC Gamers is getting to them.

maigo 05/11/2010 9:47 PM
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Dylvh 05/11/2010 9:49 PM
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Afraid of a little competition?

mlopinto2k1 05/11/2010 9:49 PM
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It sounds like maybe he shouldn't have been quoted for the whole world to see his words. Sounds more like a personal conversation he would have had to someone in his level. People talk like this all the time. Why would he publicly bash another game developer? Just doesn't make sense. Who cares. Let Crytek do their thing and focus on your own damn development. His comments remind me of some of the comments here on Tom's... way too opinionated.

dman3k 05/11/2010 9:49 PM
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I'll take the Legend of Zelda NES engine!

builderbobftw 05/11/2010 9:54 PM
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fact remains that the engine used in Crysis, Cry 2, was the best ever graphics engine at the time, and Cry 3 is set to be evn better.

Jelous Much?

Bluescreendeath 05/11/2010 9:56 PM
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maigo :
CryEngine looks nice but it doesn't work as well and it sure as hell isn't proven like Unreal


If you run Crysis on medium settings, it would run just as well as Unreal while looking the same or slightly better.

The reason why Cryengine2 doesn't "work as well" maxed out because it is leaps and bounds better looking than the Unreal engine and the vast majority of computers can't handle it.

dreamer77dd 05/11/2010 9:57 PM
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This is the first time hearing about Unreal Engine 4. i only bin reading about CryEngine 3 I hope to see a comparison. i like that their is competition between the 2 bringing us faster into the future, better for consumers both are pretty good at what they do. Which one is easiest to work and develop with, only time will tell.

bobusboy 05/11/2010 10:02 PM
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As long as every UR4 game doesnt look the same the way every UR3 games does i dont really care, personally more engines the better, if developers used their own engines we'd see a great deal more graphical diversity. I realise the obsticals to this but even so, bring on C2 and C3 and UR4, frostbite, valve etc.

spigias 05/11/2010 10:03 PM
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I don't prefer handicapped console-pc engines running on pc, exclusive pc engines(Cryengine) are far more polished.

anamaniac 05/11/2010 10:05 PM
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tommysch 05/11/2010 10:15 PM
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Plz no more cross-platform support!

dreamer77dd 05/11/2010 10:22 PM
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would like to see more multi thread games to use the extra strength out of my cpu but nothing i really bin said. i would make it easy to build and develop so people would like using my software, thinking about the playstation 3 where it was difficult to develop for.

hellwig 05/11/2010 10:25 PM
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I was gonna say the CryEngine isn't so bad, but then I just read that Far Cry 2 wasn't Crytek, and since I never felt like dumping a couple grand into a machine that could play Crysis, I guess I've never actually seen the engine. So, uh, why is Epic bashing an engine that powers a whopping total of 1 games? I don't even think that counts as competition. Is Epic just upset Crytek didn't license the Unreal engine for Crysis? Then all those "but can it play crysis" jokes would be directed at their crappy engine.

I wanna know why the Serious Engine never took off. Back in the day Serious looked much more impressive than Quake and Unreal (no CryEngine or Source back then obviously).

wolfram23 05/11/2010 10:53 PM
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Bleh misleading article, he only dismisses it as a multi platform engine - which so far, it's not. But it's still a ridiculously sexy looking engine on PC.

eddieroolz 05/11/2010 10:57 PM
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Yawn. I'd take CryEngine 3 over Unreal any day. If anything I don't want a console port.

noobiggie 05/11/2010 11:07 PM
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Crytek says "CryEngine me a river"...hey I'm just the messenger here

Emperus 05/11/2010 11:20 PM
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Somehow i too don't like the CRYTEK engine.. I mean the visuals are fantastic but its efficiency is a lot behind some very great engines like the HALF-LIFE 2 (my personal favorite)..

joytech22 05/11/2010 11:53 PM
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Both engines will be great, both impressed me by a significant margin.
Crytek didn't optimize their CryEngine 2 as well as i expected, but only this year can Gaming Rig's (Upgraded of course) play it on highest settings, along with anti-aliasing without going below the 30FPS mark.

Unreal Engine 4 will be Unreal! both will be awesome, cant wait!

HavoCnMe 05/11/2010 11:52 PM
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LATTEH 05/11/2010 11:54 PM
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the Cryengine is good and all but the only reason i don't like it is because of the editor (also no brushs) so it makes it hard to make a simple deathmatch map

Anonymous 05/11/2010 11:59 PM
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BWAHAHA! I love the people who say that CryEngine 2 was somehow inferior to UE3. From a graphical standpoint there is no comparison. CE2 was superior. If you disagree it's because your PC wasn't up to the task of running it.

Parsian 05/12/2010 12:02 PM
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i never considered UE3 a tech breakthrough...

nukemaster 05/12/2010 12:10 PM
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I honestly find the Unreal engine has been put to very good use in the past(and clearly better performance then crysis). There is no reason for a company to start bashing the competition.

Pyroflea 05/12/2010 12:20 PM
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Lol.

"My game engine that doesn't exist yet is better than your game engine that does. Oh yeah, don't forget that we've been around longer than you have."

Sounds like he's getting quite worried to me.

Anonymous 05/12/2010 12:22 PM
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