ISSCC: Organic Processor Demonstrated
Compared to Intel's and AMD's processing monsters, this 8-bit is nothing spectacular as far as pure performance is concerned. However, the organic chip includes three programmable registers and can run basic operations such as additions, subtractions, counters and shifters. There is a separate "instruction foil", which holds the hardcoded program the chip runs.
According to heise.de, the processor has 3381 organic transistors, which surpasses Intel's 4-bit 4004 processor, which as released in 1971 and considered to be the first complete CPU on a single chip. The 4004 had about 2300 transistors. Its successor, the 8-bit 8008 had about 3500 transistors. Imec said that its processor runs at 6 MHz (The 4004 ran at 0.74 MHz) at 10 Volts. It consumes about 92 μW.
There was no information when such a processor could become commercially available.
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Someday, things like this will be on the market. Now, though, they are novelty items.
are we going backwards?
10 volts for the processor!?
I'm only running 1.16-1.2v on my i7-920...
PS, the THW login system SUCKS!!!!!!! please fix it so it can save the bloody password.
Maybe in the future my CPU will look more like my own brain
so will I be able to power my laptop but give it nom noms?
Greghome: Forget that... you'll be replacing your brain for one of these puppies.
Have to do this:
Will it run Crysis?
Maybe in the future my CPU will look more like my own brain
Imagine the socket!?
self replicating electronics?
10 volts for the processor!?I'm only running 1.16-1.2v on my i7-920...PS, the THW login system SUCKS!!!!!!! please fix it so it can save the bloody password.
You do understand that there is only 9.2 micro amps of current in the system right? There's at least an amp of current in your i7.. So you're using at least 10^5 more energy
Do you guys realize this takes 92 microwatts?!?!?!
0.000092 watts to run this processor
Ya, that's why this is important...
are we going backwards?
Usually with alot of products, we have to start at square one to get back to today's levels. it's an organic processor and it hasn't been perfected, that's why phones have the capacity of computers 10-20 years ago
Are you sure? Many new smartphones are running single core 1+ghz chips right now...some even dual core.
Do a Google search when AMD and Intel were racing to 1ghz in the desktop market CPU space....10-11 years ago or so.
Do you guys realize this takes 92 microwatts?!?!?!0.000092 watts to run this processorYa, that's why this is important...
You do understand that there is only 9.2 micro amps of current in the system right? There's at least an amp of current in your i7.. So you're using at least 10^5 more energy
WHAT? You mean you have to look at volts AND amps? /sarcasm
10 volts for the processor!?I'm only running 1.16-1.2v on my i7-920...PS, the THW login system SUCKS!!!!!!! please fix it so it can save the bloody password.
Your processor run 1.2V but it used 100W!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+, this one use only 92 μW. use your math and calculate . Maybe you go back and learn about current. The way you say= Asia has better electricity , don't you? Asia use 220 V, US and Canada use 110 V. V is nothing compare to Watt
10 volts for the processor!?I'm only running 1.16-1.2v on my i7-920...PS, the THW login system SUCKS!!!!!!! please fix it so it can save the bloody password.
the password thing works fine for me...both ie8 and google chrome and on multiple pc's.....Maybe fix your PC!
So what does this mean? Instead of silicon we have some other chemical doing the switching? What are the applications?
OK, so Intel core i7 960 has 731,000,000 transistors and consumes 130W, which comes to .0000001778W/transistor. This new power saving technology has 3381 transistors at .000092W which comes to .00000002721W/transistor.
Wow... It takes 15% of the power. Very impressive unless I got a 0 wrong in there somewhere. And considering this tech will supposedly get more efficient as they refine it then it will be really amazing.
This could be great for low productivity devices that need super long battery life, but last I checked organic processing is much slower in reaction time than traditional processing, so I cant imagine it working very fast unless it is massively parallel.
OK, so Intel core i7 960 has 731,000,000 transistors and consumes 130W, which comes to .0000001778W/transistor. This new power saving technology has 3381 transistors at .000092W which comes to .00000002721W/transistor.Wow... It takes 15% of the power. Very impressive unless I got a 0 wrong in there somewhere. And considering this tech will supposedly get more efficient as they refine it then it will be really amazing.This could be great for low productivity devices that need super long battery life, but last I checked organic processing is much slower in reaction time than traditional processing, so I cant imagine it working very fast unless it is massively parallel.
15% ? This thing only runs at 6MHz, your i7 probably runs at 3600 MHz (at a guess) so you missed out on a 600x power factor. This thing is actually around 60x less energy efficient than that i7. Assuming you didn't get a 0 wrong in there....
Your processor run 1.2V but it used 100W!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+, this one use only 92 μW. use your math and calculate . Maybe you go back and learn about current. The way you say= Asia has better electricity , don't you? Asia use 220 V, US and Canada use 110 V. V is nothing compare to Watt
I was commenting on the fact that it's about 9 times more voltage than the current processors. 1/4 of that voltage would probably toast an i7. Whether or not it uses more power wasn't the point of my comment.
the password thing works fine for me...both ie8 and google chrome and on multiple pc's.....Maybe fix your PC!
Tried it on chrome, opera, firefox on PC; Opera, firefox, and safari on mac. Same thing... nothing is wrong with my PC, THW's flashy login system doesn't bode well with the "save password" feature on any platform and browser I've tried it on.
15% ? This thing only runs at 6MHz, your i7 probably runs at 3600 MHz (at a guess) so you missed out on a 600x power factor. This thing is actually around 60x less energy efficient than that i7. Assuming you didn't get a 0 wrong in there....
he was only comparing transistors. he could've done the same calculation for clock speed. Besides that, clock speed doesn't always mean everything.
I guess the power efficiency benchmark you guys are looking for would be MIPS or FLOPS per watt, and it looks like we don't have enough information in the article.
at 92uW, you can put 10 of these for under a mW, 10.000 of these running just under 1 W.
6mHz may seem very slow, but if 10.000 of them are crunching a serious parallel program, they would perform like a 60Ghz processor on a single thread, and that all for under 1W!!!
^^--Addition: That's currently 20x the speed, for 1/100th the power--^^
It's mentally challenged now!
I dont think it'll be able to compete with silicon...unless it has a stable oxide layer
Seriously, please. i only have one question. What is Organic Processor?
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(maybe is it something like a piece of leaf doing the processing?
Isn't this good news though? I mean, isn't the idea of having organic processors or other semiconductors not based off metals important for future applications and manufacturing? I'm asking this cause I have no idea lol, but I thought I heard it was or read about it somewhere.
Hopefully bacteria does not eat away at organic processors!
But, can it play Crysis?
I mean, put a few billions of these interconnected with each other, a basic software that can "learn", add a few years of training, and a way to interface with the virtual world, and let it play Crysis. Of course by then we would be referring to "it" as "he" or "she".
Seriously, please. i only have one question. What is Organic Processor? (maybe is it something like a piece of leaf doing the processing? )
An organic processor is a processor build up of organic electronics, mainly organic transistors. These organic electronic components are made with organic chemistry. You might think that organic chemistry is chemistry involving biology, hence you thought about a "leaf doing the proessing." This is incorrect. Organic chemistry ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_chemistry ) is a study of carbon-based compounds, hydrocarbons, and their derivatives. Organic chemistry involves things like oil, gasoline, plastics, some drugs(mostly health-related), and all biochemical processes. As you can see, biochemistry is just a part of organic chemistry, as a wheel is a part of a car.