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BioWare Repies to Star Wars: The Old Republic ''WoW Clone'' Comments

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BioWare fires back after Star Wars: The Old Republic was described as a "highly derivative" clone of World of Warcraft in a recent E3 2011 report.

Cowen and Company analyst Doug Creutz recently ruffled the feathers of BioWare (and a few fans) after slamming the upcoming MMOG Star Wars: The Old Republic as a "highly derivative" clone of World of Warcraft. He even went so far as to suggesting that EA hasn't announced a release date because the game will likely not ship this year.

"We got hands-on time with the game, and were largely unimpressed," Creutz said in the firm's E3 2011 report. "Despite promises from EA/BioWare that the title represents a major step forward in MMO design, what we saw was essentially a World of Warcraft clone with Star Wars character skins and the BioWare RPG nice/nasty dialogue tree mechanism bolted on for non-player character conversations."

He also didn't have anything positive to say about the game's visual presentation, calling the scenery and character designs competent but hardly breathtaking. "Granted, we were playing in a desert area, so other areas may be more impressive-looking... on the other hand we question why EA chose a desert level to showcase the title,” he added.

BioWare CEO Ray Muzyka responded to the criticism by not even addressing Creutz's comments directly, saying that the development schedule is currently on track. "We're progressing well," he said. "The fact we're showing it hands-on on the show floor is an indication of our confidence in the quality. We're getting a lot of positive feedback on that. We know how critical it is to launch as a solid game and then have really high quality service afterwards, too. We have plans to do follow-on content and things that'll keep our players engaged and active for years to come."

BioWare co-founder Greg Zeschuk also threw in his two cents worth. "The content's getting there," he said. "We're pretty happy with what we're showing. There's always a lot of refining and polishing. We've pretty well announced the whole range of features. There's such an incredibly large range of things, like crafting, heroic combat, PVP, war zones, end game content – what we call operations, which are basically raids, companion characters, there's all this stuff. All those things all together are looking good."

Zeschuk added that it's not just enough to make the game great. "You have to give great service and you have to be able to support the game on a long-term basis," he said. "So we've devoted a lot of effort and thinking towards how we do that. The beta testing really is a validation of that stuff. At some point we'll be ready to go."

As for the actual launch date, Zeschuk said that EA is guided towards this calendar year. At least, that's what the "big men" have stated. "At the end of the day quality also matters," he added. "And quality of service just as much as quality of game."

So far SWTOR is still slated to launch by the end of the year. As reported, even Blizzard is banking on the game's success, hoping that Star Wars fans who have never played an MMORPG before will get hooked and have a desire to taste other offerings like one particular fantasy-based MMORPG played by millions and millions worldwide.

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    dread_cthulhu , June 14, 2011 9:50 PM
    Bioware "Repies"... Does this mean they threw pies at them? Or do we all get pie!? Cuz that would be awesome... LOL
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    geminireaper , June 14, 2011 9:56 PM
    Cowen is a moron and wouldnt know a good game if it jumped up and bit him on the arse. Fact is there will always be things in a game that are WoW-esque but then again if you think WoW is original in many of its concepts you are sadily mistaken. WoW begged, bored, and stole from many of its mmo predaccessors like EQ.
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    popatim , June 14, 2011 9:47 PM
    Lets face it, theres very few 'kinds' of mmorpg's; the heavily quest based ones like Wow or the sparse quest free-for-alls like... Legends of Kesmai (?)

    Perhaps there is yet unseen content which differentiates it from Wow beyond graphics. I have been thinking on that and beleive I have the answer but don't want to give it away. Blizzard can buy my idea if they want to but it won't be cheap. LoL
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    dread_cthulhu , June 14, 2011 9:50 PM
    Bioware "Repies"... Does this mean they threw pies at them? Or do we all get pie!? Cuz that would be awesome... LOL
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    geminireaper , June 14, 2011 9:56 PM
    Cowen is a moron and wouldnt know a good game if it jumped up and bit him on the arse. Fact is there will always be things in a game that are WoW-esque but then again if you think WoW is original in many of its concepts you are sadily mistaken. WoW begged, bored, and stole from many of its mmo predaccessors like EQ.
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    dragonfang18 , June 14, 2011 9:56 PM
    I wish they would go back to making KOTOR 3... not this crap... Thanks EA management...
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    Maxor127 , June 14, 2011 9:56 PM
    It doesn't look like they responded to the WoW clone comment at all. Either way, I completely agree with the complaints towards the game. It's turning into everything that I feared it would. I had slim hope that Bioware would innovate in some way.
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    blibba , June 14, 2011 9:57 PM
    WoW clone isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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    sliem , June 14, 2011 9:58 PM
    dread_cthulhuBioware "Repies"... Does this mean they threw pies at them? Or do we all get pie!? Cuz that would be awesome... LOL


    Yes, repies is to apply another layer of pie.
    ...
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    techguy911 , June 14, 2011 10:11 PM
    From clips i have seen they are using a 8 year old graphics engine that does not support dx10+ this is 2011 i was expecting more.
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    reggieray , June 14, 2011 10:17 PM
    Bioware was killed when EA bought them out.
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    borisof007 , June 14, 2011 10:21 PM
    There are quite different and original kinds of MMO's. Take Eve online and WoW, two COMPLETELY different games with different styles of play, goals, etc. If they focused on making it a unique game in and of itself instead of trying to copy elements that already exist, maybe it'll get more attention.
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    utengineer , June 14, 2011 10:29 PM
    This guy would say the same about every FPS since Quake....."well, they are still shooting at each other, so nothing new here." I smell the fear in his comments. This is a MMO based within the lore of Star Wars. The SW fanbase alone will drive this to compete with WoW. I have never played WoW.....I am an FPS online guy. Since this MMO is SW, I am giving it a try.
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    maxiim , June 14, 2011 10:38 PM
    Makes me feel like I want to come back every time I visit this site because all I see is old news, and everything written by kids who seem that they don't even have a high school diploma.
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    Yuka , June 14, 2011 10:39 PM
    utengineerThis guy would say the same about every FPS since Quake....."well, they are still shooting at each other, so nothing new here." I smell the fear in his comments. This is a MMO based within the lore of Star Wars. The SW fanbase alone will drive this to compete with WoW. I have never played WoW.....I am an FPS online guy. Since this MMO is SW, I am giving it a try.


    Actually, about the Quake comment, I would REALLY hope new FPS'es are more like it, lol. Borderlands was a good approach to a new FPS mix, but it died by its own hand, lol.

    Anyway, on the subject at hand: Blizzard is happy about SWTOR, because of a simple reason: Titan is prolly heading into that (same, maybe) gender of Sci-Fi plus another big bag of things. I wouldn't be surprised about it one bit, actually. "We really hope it does well.. -CHA CHING-", rofl.

    Cheers!
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    Neverdyne , June 14, 2011 10:45 PM
    Old school MMORPG gamers expect new MMOs to be completely new and revolutionizing, but this was never the aim of Bioware. If a company wants to play it safe, it has to take the road of small incremental improvements, and not try to redefine the genre.

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    There's such an incredibly large range of things, like crafting, heroic combat, PVP, war zones, end game content – what we call operations, which are basically raids, companion characters, there's all this stuff.


    Everything he mentions there, except companions, is already in WoW; but this is alright. Bioware's design focus was to create a polished and solid game similar to WoW, but with a few additions. There's nothing wrong with that, the FPS genre has been doing this small incremental improvements for a long time now, and people don't complain about it as much.
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    uii , June 14, 2011 10:46 PM
    They should have tried to do their own thing. If they wanted a SCIFI mmorpg they should have done mass effect.
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    retrig , June 14, 2011 10:48 PM
    maxiimMakes me feel like I want to come back every time I visit this site because all I see is old news, and everything written by kids who seem that they don't even have a high school diploma.

    Granted, the writing on this site is sometimes incredibly horrid (*cough* Douglas Perry), but if you're going to talk smack about poor writing you might want to work on writing a proper sentence yourself.
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    Anonymous , June 14, 2011 10:57 PM
    There is another kind of MMOs ... :) 
    KOREAN GRINDERS !!!! :D DD
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    theoldgrumpybear , June 14, 2011 11:13 PM
    "Everything he mentions there, except companions, is already in WoW; but this is alright. Bioware's design focus was to create a polished and solid game similar to WoW, but with a few additions. There's nothing wrong with that, the FPS genre has been doing this small incremental improvements for a long time now, and people don't complain about it as much."

    And yup EQ has companions in it... Yes WoW is still catching up, since companions will be released by the end of this year...
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    Anonymous , June 14, 2011 11:15 PM
    That reply wasn't much of a reply. They did not deny or imply to deny the comments at all. It's not just Cruetz that is saying it, every single E3 report is saying the same thing, the game looks and plays like WoW with a Star Wars skin. Every gameplay video they've released only confirms this. Sadly Bioware, under the direction of EA, played it too safe. The game will still sell like hot cakes, but those of us hoping for a true "Bioware" MMO will have to wait, or may never get one. Make no mistake, this is EA's attempt at cloning WoW and its success.
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    xxsk8er101xx , June 14, 2011 11:16 PM
    You people are nuts. You polish the chrome after it's done not before. You want functionality and that is what they are showing. It's not hard to beef up the graphics.
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